[GE2025] Mediacorp Live Roundtable Debate, 27 April 2025 8pm

[itedino]

What time

Cht argument best on retirement age. Lol. It's to protect us! Hello. Then put retirement age at 150 years old lah.

Ya la. U put 150 yo retire.siao dun need to collect cpf

 

[krikering]

This is the word for word paragraphs mentioned by WP in the WP paper in 2019:

Resident population growth has been approximately 30,000 a year since 2010 and 2011. Assuming an average household size of 3.3, this would mean that around 9,000 or so new dwelling units are required annually. Completions within the same time period have far exceeded the resident population growth. Private vacancies have only started to inch down, but there are still around 12,000 private units completing up to 2022. Will the HDB have a vacancy rate problem, compounded by a still steady stream of 16,000 to 17,000 BTO units in the last few years, which will continue to increase supply up to 2022?

BTO projects should continue, but, rather than creating too many new towns, planners would do well to consider, in future, partly meeting demand from new family formation by selling balance flats in mature estates acquired under the Universal Sale and Lease Back scheme or USB (see previous chapter). This would help advance urban renewal in the mature estates where many Singapore [sic] desire to live, since these are nearer to the city centre.

HDB themselves also went ahead to cut supply from 25000 per year to 16000 per year previously. That means they admitted that they were wrong too.

 

[itedino]

LT should just go berserk, luckily SDP not invited. Got time to do their rally at Sun Plaza, what a waste of time. Debate, more like reading manifestos only.

Not exciting

Lawrence Wong last time say in forum Dr Chee got tradition of backstabbing.

 

[mgx-alander]

Use Chatgpt. It will quote you the sources. This was part of what it mentioned.
The Workers' Party (WP) did propose reducing the number of Build-To-Order (BTO) flats during the COVID-19 period. In 2019, the WP released a working paper titled Counting Down to Zero: Are There Alternatives to VERS?, which recommended cutting back the annual BTO supply to 9,000 units, down from the 16,000 to 17,000 flats that were being built at the time.

Please read paper in full
https://cdn.prod.website-files.com/...05b_WP-Working-Paper-on-HDB-Resale-Prices.pdf

building less BTO is because of UBS, not just stop building BTOs

 

[Senna Wales]

but from this roundtable.. i find RDU quite

hey.. if u keep agree with PAP, then why come out to run for this election.

PAP Lite 2.

 

[charleslee1989]

The housing proposal psp puts up is a tad too drastic though. If they wants to push this through they need the transition plan that involves existing housing for sure

Of course, I will talk to them on this...

 

[Pyroxene]

PSP and WP directly addressed and answered the questions posed to them. Michael Thng (WP representative) in particular was very impressive and articulated his points extremely well. Stephanie (PSP) had to keep referring to her prepared script.

Lim Tean and Ravi just mostly repeated their parties' talking points without answering the questions. Basically they were opposing for the sake of opposing.

Chee Hong Tat had a very good performance too. Fleshed out the ruling party's stance and policies and addressed the questions posed to him. Of course he also had the advantage of having 4x the time compared to the other panelists...

 

[nom.nom]

Why otelli and hong tat sit so close while oppies form 1 cluster?

Technically there should be a guest prof in between host and Lim Tean that’s why lor

 

[NTB2DO]

Just on this did a quick glance through. Remembered some of them

1,2 are valid; 3,4,5 are mostly peripheral and trying to fight for the environment to me not super important

6 is valid but I remember that speech as very theory and not to the point

The ntuc one was retrospective and he didn’t push further

I think if you’re talking about making in roads, psp did more than wp in this term

I don’t subscribe to enemy of my enemy is my friend. I rather if the candidates did well they did well.

I was responding to your comment that he 'score a home run then disappear for 5 years fighting woke'..

So scary this kind of perception.

score a home run then disappear for 5 years fighting woke.

I hope they live up to their names

LMW is good. This I agree.

 

[coyote]

This type of roundtable wayang joke only make me wanna vote OPP, it also paint cht like a weakling reading from iPad prepared script.

Not really. It showed us very clearly the different leagues between the parties and the calibres of the candidates... Which parties have shorter sights, which party is too focus on attacking others and forgotten to explain why people should vote for them. WP shines above the rest of the oppositions obviously.

 

[askxyz]

Good that more time is allocated to PAP

So that I can hear all the funny stuff that CHT has spoken

what funny stuff?

 

[youcantstopme]

Sibei boring. Halfway through i went to listen to Jamus on DailyKetchup podcast lol.. utube recommended

Daily ketchup is a well disguised pap dog. Lol.

 

[Chocoholicxx]

HDB themselves also went ahead to cut supply from 25000 per year to 16000 per year previously. That means they admitted that they were wrong too.

I feel WP didn't really directly ask for a reduction of BTO supply, rather it seems more like it should be a mixture of new supply + reclaiming back existing flats through schemes to give a more well balanced localization; a mixture of new estates + mature estates to offer to new homeowners.

 

[oddeye82]

In other news, someone fainted at NCM rally

Too much BS from MIWs and even supporters cannot tahan?

 

[Stealth_PL]

Please read paper in full
https://cdn.prod.website-files.com/...05b_WP-Working-Paper-on-HDB-Resale-Prices.pdf

building less BTO is because of UBS, not just stop building BTOs

Reading is not ib forte they only know how to parrot

 

[coldish]

Each of them could have just published their responses. What for waste time for each person to narrate one by one.

What a joke.

At least the session made one thing obvious. That anyone who watched it will question why CHT has so much more time and always have the last say.

The roundtable was made a platform for PAP to showcase what they have to say is always right.

Having more oppies parties this time is just an convenient excuse that they allow more voice to be heard.

 

[eeLoyH]

I am here long enough what kind of posts you have and what your intentions are. Saying this doesn't mean I am being personal but am I right to say that you know it jolly well. What posts you have to say you are objective, neutral and not biased at all? Did u ever once say WP is right and done well ?

You can say anything about WP likewise I do for pap so it is a zero sum issue.

Again, u can say anything about Jamus and others n I have proved to u otherwise. Instead of taking it objectively, what did u do? Don't say I want to say u this n but u did behave that way.

Can you just even refer to the posts I made in this thread before replying?

seriously you prefer to have this preconceived impression and stick to it

 

[EMPt1ness]

Daily ketchup is a well disguised pap dog. Lol.

Agree.. but at least that episode w jamus more entertaining than this roundtable

 

[jericho75]

invited ppl on tv then total speak like 5-6 mins. wasting time.

 

[mgx-alander]

Reading is not ib forte they only know how to parrot

at least ask them to use gpt to generate sumurai, just pay $20