M1 FIBRE BROADBAND DISCUSSION - Part 2

[linuskltan]

FYI for existing M1 customers, $15 / $13 discount vouchers renewed again for another month until 25 May 2025, therefore re-contract prices for 6 Gbps @ $32.90 / 10 Gbps @ $50.90.

 

[NoTimeToWaitAr]

hi all, currently I'm using ax72 and my wifi connection in my room is quite bad (staying in 5rm hdb). Is BE805 a significant upgrade?

I'm contemplating between getting the BE805 (without topup from M1) or the Asus BT10 (+12$/mth).

intiial idea is to setup a wireless backhaul. BT10 seems a little overkill? otherwise can I use BE805 as main and the current old ax72 as satellite to create the wireless backhaul?

Thank you.

 

[humanrace]

I’m currently using m1 1gbps, wanted to recontract to 6gbps. Why is ONT appointment needed again?

 

[HiHelloBye]

I’m currently using m1 1gbps, wanted to recontract to 6gbps. Why is ONT appointment needed again?

you'll be issued with a different type of ONT to support XGS-PON speeds...

 

[xonix]

hi all, currently I'm using ax72 and my wifi connection in my room is quite bad (staying in 5rm hdb). Is BE805 a significant upgrade?

I'm contemplating between getting the BE805 (without topup from M1) or the Asus BT10 (+12$/mth).

intiial idea is to setup a wireless backhaul. BT10 seems a little overkill? otherwise can I use BE805 as main and the current old ax72 as satellite to create the wireless backhaul?

Thank you.

Is the ax72 EasyMesh compatible ? If yes, then you can upgrade to be805 and use the ax72 as a mesh node

 

[xiaofan]

hi all, currently I'm using ax72 and my wifi connection in my room is quite bad (staying in 5rm hdb). Is BE805 a significant upgrade?

I'm contemplating between getting the BE805 (without topup from M1) or the Asus BT10 (+12$/mth).

intiial idea is to setup a wireless backhaul. BT10 seems a little overkill? otherwise can I use BE805 as main and the current old ax72 as satellite to create the wireless backhaul?

Thank you.

Not a good idea to use Archer BE805 + Archer AX72 (TP-Link Easymesh) if you need to use wireless backhaul, since Archer AX72 is only dual band.

It is much better to go for the Asus ZenWiFi BT10 two-packs as Asus AIMesh is better than TP-Link Easymesh.

 

[ykeen]

trying to validate my point. if i intend to get BT10 pack, would it actually make sense to go with 10GBps plan @ 50 bucks per month? i have the offer @ 32.90 pm for 6GBps plan, for BT10 i need to add 12 pm, which the package comes to 45 pm. so i effectively pay 5 bucks for 4 gbps, not that i will fully utilise the speed but for 5 bucks to futureproof, i think i can afford that. any issue with my logic?

it sounds good for additional 4Gbps at "only" $5 more. But if myself personally, I would think that by the time 24mths contract is over, I might still not have devices that can make use of 10Gbps WAN bandwidth.. hence the futureproof might not be needed, can future proof after 24mths
I might go for 6Gbps, even though save few bucks only..

i see.

i didnt try to get the 10gbps plan.

I got the BT10 with the +12 top up per month.

now thinking back perhaps 50 per month is quite worth for the 10gbps.

same as above...

 

[prince_fan]

it sounds good for additional 4Gbps at "only" $5 more. But if myself personally, I would think that by the time 24mths contract is over, I might still not have devices that can make use of 10Gbps WAN bandwidth.. hence the futureproof might not be needed, can future proof after 24mths
I might go for 6Gbps, even though save few bucks only..



same as above...

device wise my pc and switch are all 10G capable, but since its WAN, i dont know how many vendors/servers can let me use up that bandwidth.
the dilemma probably would be, i pay extra, yet unable to utilise fully, and the price of the plan is most likely gonna get cheaper(other service provider already cheaper), and 6Gbps is cheaper by itself. BUT, its just 6bucks per month extra. every month select one meal, change the option from Mcdonald to chicken rice can liao. so, just personal choice i think, depend on how I psycho myself

 

[SkyShroud]

Average users don't even use 1TB worth of bandwidth per month, most likely just 500GB per month, that's why upsell because they know statistically you not gonna use much. People just see the big number feel happy only.

For context, 10Gbps is around 108 TB worth of bandwidth if run 24/7 for one day. A month will be like 3000TB so average user only use like 0.03% of it or even less. 10 Gbps cost like $4000 to $10000 for international IP transits, depending on upstream. They sell you $30 cheapest for 10Gbps because they could sell to a thousand people and make a profit out of it.

 

[sglandscape]

Average users don't even use 1TB worth of bandwidth per month, most likely just 500GB per month, that's why upsell because they know statistically you not gonna use much. People just see the big number feel happy only.

For context, 10Gbps is around 108 TB worth of bandwidth if run 24/7 for one day. A month will be like 3000TB so average user only use like 0.03% of it or even less. 10 Gbps cost like $4000 to $10000 for international IP transits, depending on upstream. They sell you $30 cheapest for 10Gbps because they could sell to a thousand people and make a profit out of it.

Also could throttle the international transit based on upstream, if you pool a large enough number of users you make more money on average.

 

[SkyShroud]

Also could throttle the international transit based on upstream, if you pool a large enough number of users you make more money on average.

But nowadays got CDN and Singapore is SEA major hub for CDN. Youtube, TikTok, Facebook etc don't even need to go international transits, just need to run to local datacenter and poof.

 

[rerear]

Currently on 500Mbps, and using AX86U. No contract and so far no wifi speed or blindspots issue. Price is $30.45.

Should I take the 1Gbps recon at $24.90? This is vanilla price without Router I believe. 2nd hand market now flooded with BE805 don't think can sell.


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[froztheart]

Currently on 500Mbps, and using AX86U. No contract and so far no wifi speed or blindspots issue. Price is $30.45.

Should I take the 1Gbps recon at $24.90? This is vanilla price without Router I believe. 2nd hand market now flooded with BE805 don't think can sell.


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Well, can recontract to enjoy the savings, but whether the out of contract price remains better check.
If it is, good then since can continue to keep cost low.

 

[rerear]

exactly that is the doubt, whether out of contract price will jump, but the 500Mbps hasn't jumped for a long time


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[froztheart]

exactly that is the doubt, whether out of contract price will jump, but the 500Mbps hasn't jumped for a long time


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Well, that was for your 500Mpbs contract, so with the new contract you need to verify.
If unable to verify, then there's a risk as with any new contract that the existing price might not remain after contract lapsation.

 

[gnooliew]

Those plans since the "reduced" prices started, I don't think there is any that the price stays the same after contract ends. Only the legacy plans may still have this mechanism.

 

[Mach3.2]

they probably still want room to adjust pricing as 10Gbps plans are still a relatively new concept in SG. If they grandfather people in at $32 then they are stuck if they try to adjust upwards right.

Few years in they'll probably fix the price once they roughly figure out the price floor like the 1Gbps plans.

 

[xiaofan]

Those plans since the "reduced" prices started, I don't think there is any that the price stays the same after contract ends. Only the legacy plans may still have this mechanism.

Among the big three, it seems to me only Starhub is reported to maintain the same S$29.55 (new user offer, initially without free router for the ONT option, later with free HB710) or S$30.37 (recontract offer) per month for the previous 5Gbps promotion, after contract expiration.

Starhub has since removed the 5Gbps offer, now only got S$29.55 per month 3Gbps offer (with free HB410 dual band 2.5Gbps capable dual band WiFi 7 router).

 

[everex]

Speedtest today my 2 desktop PCs in different rooms connected by LAN to TP Link Archer BE805 with M1 6Gbps subscription. PC1 has 2.5Gbps card, PC2 has 1Gbps card. Used to get 1Gbps throughput in each since installed 2wks ago.

Now suddenly I can only get 100Mbps for both. Didn't change any setting. Also checked the router, it shows 100Mbps for both (LAN1 should support max 6Gbps, the other 3 should support max 1Gbps.

WiFi is normal as I'm getting 4Gbps DL&UL.

Is there anything I can do/check to address this? Would appreciate expert comments. Thank you.

 

[xonix]

Speedtest today my 2 desktop PCs in different rooms connected by LAN to TP Link Archer BE805 with M1 6Gbps subscription. PC1 has 2.5Gbps card, PC2 has 1Gbps card. Used to get 1Gbps throughput in each since installed 2wks ago.

Now suddenly I can only get 100Mbps for both. Didn't change any setting. Also checked the router, it shows 100Mbps for both (LAN1 should support max 6Gbps, the other 3 should support max 1Gbps.

WiFi is normal as I'm getting 4Gbps DL&UL.

Is there anything I can do/check to address this? Would appreciate expert comments. Thank you.

Check your PC ethernet link status ? Maybe auto negotiate to 100mbps, have to go into network card driver and change from auto to the max speed available