Sony Xperia 1 VII

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But anyway not my concern since I am not buying mark VII because no 4k display

I wonder if Sony mobile department listens to user feedback , or Sony users keep praising the phone and they think it is ok to continue their current trajectory.

Sony Alpha camera dept has been rather responsive with feedbacks and complaints from ground users, grip too shallow ? deepen the grip, prefer the new a9iii handling? keep the design for A1mk2 , Imaging mobile software too sucky ? created another with bluetooth and wifi linkup, unfriendly camera interface ? revamped with nice color coded menus, sucky NP-FW50 batteries ? trickle down the high capacity battery in pro models down to basic models.

 

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I wonder if Sony mobile department listens to user feedback , or Sony users keep praising the phone and they think it is ok to continue their current trajectory.

Sony Alpha camera dept has been rather responsive with feedbacks and complaints from ground users, grip too shallow ? deepen the grip, prefer the new a9iii handling? keep the design for A1mk2 , Imaging mobile software too sucky ? created another with bluetooth and wifi linkup, unfriendly camera interface ? revamped with nice color coded menus, sucky NP-FW50 batteries ? trickle down the high capacity battery in pro models down to basic models.

They delulu only listen to themselves
 

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im just a outsider....just dropping my own personal view

used to own a xperia z3/

moved to sammy, then iphone then vivo....

kuddos to ya'll hardcore supporters...

xm3,4,5 earbuds all cui for me..... :s22: :spin:

no im not pitying or looking down, sorry if it sounds like it.... but sony as a whole... piang..... that kind of specs and pricing call flag ship ?
 

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im just a outsider....just dropping my own personal view

used to own a xperia z3/

moved to sammy, then iphone then vivo....

kuddos to ya'll hardcore supporters...

xm3,4,5 earbuds all cui for me..... :s22: :spin:

no im not pitying or looking down, sorry if it sounds like it.... but sony as a whole... piang..... that kind of specs and pricing call flag ship ?
Ha, no worries, welcome

I had a fair share of complaint on their xm4 and xm5 earbuds too

For the xm4 wise, it all very good except the final months of ownership, their battery drain instantly after full recharge due to glitches in software update

For xm5 wise, I need to trade off between comfort to my ears and noise canceling

Both got the same problem which is ldac keep interrupt when using Xperia phones like very choppy

This is because ldac share the same wifi 2.4ghz frequency so if your ldac near public wifi then gg, disrupt very seriously
 

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im just a outsider....just dropping my own personal view

used to own a xperia z3/

moved to sammy, then iphone then vivo....

kuddos to ya'll hardcore supporters...

xm3,4,5 earbuds all cui for me..... :s22: :spin:

no im not pitying or looking down, sorry if it sounds like it.... but sony as a whole... piang..... that kind of specs and pricing call flag ship ?

The product by itself is worthy of flagship offerings.

But the main problem is the influx of chinese phones which can have some similar or better functions while at a lower pricing. Just look at some poco offerings with the flagship hardware and their incredible low pricing, we are simply spoilt for choice.

Another issue for sony is the lack of mainstream users or some call it fans.
These groups will swear by their favourite brands and even defend it when hardwares or features got stripped off year by year, while you only find a tiny group of those for sony. It is a huge challenge to stand out when it is one of the numerous android brands and most of them just look like an icopy till recent years.

End of the day, it is actually a nice flagship phone but it does have many other competition for the same or lower price.
 

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The product by itself is worthy of flagship offerings.

But the main problem is the influx of chinese phones which can have some similar or better functions while at a lower pricing. Just look at some poco offerings with the flagship hardware and their incredible low pricing, we are simply spoilt for choice.

Another issue for sony is the lack of mainstream users or some call it fans.
These groups will swear by their favourite brands and even defend it when hardwares or features got stripped off year by year, while you only find a tiny group of those for sony. It is a huge challenge to stand out when it is one of the numerous android brands and most of them just look like an icopy till recent years.

End of the day, it is actually a nice flagship phone but it does have many other competition for the same or lower price.
My understanding is they went through 3 round of loss of loyalty

First loss is Xperia Z5 to Xperia X
No more waterproof phone and reduce a lot of features

Second loss is Xperia XZ3 to Xperia 1
The boss at that time want to break away all the past and back to basic that Xperia should be in the first place

Third loss is Xperia 1V to Xperia 1VI
Change boss and change the design as well, want to please the reviewer and mainstream market but anger the actual long time Xperia users
 

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Hope they improve the main sensor , as well as the optimize telephoto sensor fully. I will likely compare quality when have chance. 😁😁😁
 

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Ha then they will reintroduce 4k display then display quality will be superior along theirs Bravia tuning
 

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Update :

From this video 2.56 minute the telephoto really have improvement. Sony really can zhng software till nice 🤣🤣

AT 16 minutes can see the new vapour chamber does a lot better at heat control during 4k video test compared to 1vi!

 
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Hope they improve the main sensor , as well as the optimize telephoto sensor fully. I will likely compare quality when have chance. 😁😁😁

Will you be buying the 1vii and compare with ur existing 1vi?
 

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Thanks for the honest responses ,

frankly i might consider sony, if the camera system was actually on par with say, the flagship of last years' , x100 ultra, 14 ultra etc.

and i dont seem to find any , good photography comparisons, taken with the best angle.


e.g 35mm, or 23mm, the photo taken after much deliberation and calibration for each android and iphone.

then theres one wide angle from an older xperia, from reddit, which was taken by one of the bros here, when i zoom in, i was shock to see the pixel was pretty bad.

not that iphone 14 i had in the past was any better, least the eco system had it going.




Sony sg yet again selling 256gb at 512gb hk prices
@tarui04
to pay for those JLB sales people who know nothing



Ha, no worries, welcome

I had a fair share of complaint on their xm4 and xm5 earbuds too

For the xm4 wise, it all very good except the final months of ownership, their battery drain instantly after full recharge due to glitches in software update

For xm5 wise, I need to trade off between comfort to my ears and noise canceling

Both got the same problem which is ldac keep interrupt when using Xperia phones like very choppy

This is because ldac share the same wifi 2.4ghz frequency so if your ldac near public wifi then gg, disrupt very seriously

@mjmjmjmj
Interesting share, first time ive heard that LDAC uses 2.4ghz that will overlap..... guess my brain was just bluetooth vs wifi is different lol

The product by itself is worthy of flagship offerings.

But the main problem is the influx of chinese phones which can have some similar or better functions while at a lower pricing. Just look at some poco offerings with the flagship hardware and their incredible low pricing, we are simply spoilt for choice.

Another issue for sony is the lack of mainstream users or some call it fans.
These groups will swear by their favourite brands and even defend it when hardwares or features got stripped off year by year, while you only find a tiny group of those for sony. It is a huge challenge to stand out when it is one of the numerous android brands and most of them just look like an icopy till recent years.

End of the day, it is actually a nice flagship phone but it does have many other competition for the same or lower price.

@rssd21
Welp... as a apple fanboy, i agree until i was frustrated at the quality of photos that i took when i when back to hanoi, it was the last straw that i ever use iphone for photo-taking.

yes the raw is great and all, but the number of pixel and sensor size, pales in comparison to even a 2nd hand 14 ultra from xiaomi, dare i say even 13pro


My understanding is they went through 3 round of loss of loyalty

First loss is Xperia Z5 to Xperia X
No more waterproof phone and reduce a lot of features

Second loss is Xperia XZ3 to Xperia 1
The boss at that time want to break away all the past and back to basic that Xperia should be in the first place

Third loss is Xperia 1V to Xperia 1VI
Change boss and change the design as well, want to please the reviewer and mainstream market but anger the actual long time Xperia users


huh ? actual long time xperia users want ????

Hope they improve the main sensor , as well as the optimize telephoto sensor fully. I will likely compare quality when have chance. 😁😁😁

@Toader be honest, which xperia has the best sensor ? was it the pro-1 ? as ive searched =p

Ha then they will reintroduce 4k display then display quality will be superior along theirs Bravia tuning

Oddly, When i got my wifu the sharp, it somehow mimics Bravia tuning... unless my eye pak stamp

Update :

From this video 2.56 minute the telephoto really have improvement. Sony really can zhng software till nice 🤣🤣

AT 16 minutes can see the new vapour chamber does a lot better at heat control during 4k video test compared to 1vi!





haizz


really i thought us iOS folks have it tough, ya'll sony ginnas really have to kowtow your patience and commitment......
 

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they should just focus on making sensors for the other companies...
 
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