Wa i feel happy for ki chiu chan~!!!

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Hope he dun throw Singapore face by talking nonsense at international forums

COA doesn't mean can do Defence Minister job. NEH was not from the military but represented SG well internationally
U must be one of the toilet paper hoarder.
 

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No surprise here , moi nong nong alr predicted Def Min consperm gonna go to him after NEH announce leetire

See him how he like to use "army talk" to us, really no surprise huan
 

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I just said before, CCS going to be a better defense minister than NEH. I have confidence in Chan. NEH as a defence minister only know how to splash big money on expensive military toys nia. CCS is military trained so he is probably a better military strategist and can run mindef more effectively.
Disagree. Defence minister is different from being CDF or COA. It is not an operational role.

It is an external facing, diplomacy role where you are the face of Singapore's defence capabilities in front of potential aggressors. Any country you meet is a potential aggressor.

Teo Chee Hean himself said in his recent exit interview that physical attributes matter for the job. That's the reason defence ministers usually don't have a "nice guy" image.

U put someone who looks and speaks like a clown, like CCS, who says "cotton come from sheeps" u are in a very vulnerable and disrespected position internationally.

NEH did well in defence, he is articulate and demonstrated his intellect, flew our flag high at international defence dialogues, that is why he served the longest as defence minister
 

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He deserves the Defence minister post la. He's way smarter than OYK and the other 4G ministers despite his humble appearance. Ppl is president's scholar hokay
 

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If he can be so reckless in that leaked speech - not being careful of 隔墙有耳 or insiders - moi not sure if he will make a good defence minister.
It's the smug elitist crap so many of these people possess that makes them unsuitable

They think even their fart smells good
It doesn't
 

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I just said before, CCS going to be a better defense minister than NEH. I have confidence in Chan. NEH as a defence minister only know how to splash big money on expensive military toys nia. CCS is military trained so he is probably a better military strategist and can run mindef more effectively.
Military strategist my arse
 

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He deserves the Defence minister post la. He's way smarter than OYK and the other 4G ministers despite his humble appearance. Ppl is president's scholar hokay
So is Vivian
What's your point
 

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He deserves the Defence minister post la. He's way smarter than OYK and the other 4G ministers despite his humble appearance. Ppl is president's scholar hokay
He is very ineloquent and inarticulate. I have seen some of his speeches and replies to the media.
 

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He is very ineloquent and inarticulate. I have seen some of his speeches and replies to the media.

Yeah but eloquence does not equate to intelligence. Case in point: Amos Yee. Pretend to speak with angmo accent but the things he says has zero substance. Many celebrities are eloquent but CMI in mathematics, sciences, academics. Heard that many who worked with CCS says he has a very strategic mind despite him being not very good in language cos he's Chinese educated. Same as Low Thia Khiang. Not eloquent cos Chinese educated but certainly doesn't mean low iq

 

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Yeah but eloquence does not equate to intelligence. Case in point: Amos Yee. Pretend to speak with angmo accent but the things he says has zero substance. Many celebrities are eloquent but CMI in mathematics, sciences, academics. Heard that many who worked with CCS says he has a very strategic mind despite him being not very good in language cos he's Chinese educated. Same as Low Thia Khiang. Not eloquent cos Chinese educated but certainly doesn't mean low iq


Eloquence matter greatly for the job of defence minister and foreign minister. You are no longer talking to soldiers but representing SG internationally in front of larger nations who are potential aggressors.

Ng Eng Hen was very eloquent.
 

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Eloquence matter greatly for the job of defence minister and foreign minister. You are no longer talking to soldiers but representing SG internationally in front of larger nations who are potential aggressors.

Ng Eng Hen was very eloquent.

For foreign minister, yes. Defence minister, not rly la.
 

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For foreign minister, yes. Defence minister, not rly la.
U forgot what they taught you about the mission of SAF?

"The mission of Ministry of Defence and the Singapore Armed Forces is to enhance Singapore's peace and security through deterrence and diplomacy, and should these fail, to secure a swift and decisive victory over the aggressor."
 

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He got 孙子兵法in him. According to wiki

Chan excelled as a student at the United States Army Command and General Staff College in 1998, and was the first foreign student to be conferred the Distinguished Master Strategist Award in the same year

That's what many who worked in army said abt him. A very strategic guy. I'm anti pap but no doubt he's the best man for this job. The other 4G ministers are losers.
 

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U forgot what they taught you about the mission of SAF?

"The mission of Ministry of Defence and the Singapore Armed Forces is to enhance Singapore's peace and security through deterrence and diplomacy, and should these fail, to secure a swift and decisive victory over the aggressor."

But what you're assuming here is that eloquence = diplomacy. Which is not the case. Eloquence is arguably a subset of diplomacy but it's not everything. Diplomacy encompasses more than that - such as taking strategic actions like which countries you (wisely) choose to take sides with in times of conflict and which countries you choose to build bilateral relationships and defence cooperation with, for example.
 
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Disagree. Defence minister is different from being CDF or COA. It is not an operational role.

It is an external facing, diplomacy role where you are the face of Singapore's defence capabilities in front of potential aggressors. Any country you meet is a potential aggressor.

Teo Chee Hean himself said in his recent exit interview that physical attributes matter for the job. That's the reason defence ministers usually don't have a "nice guy" image.

U put someone who looks and speaks like a clown, like CCS, who says "cotton come from sheeps" u are in a very vulnerable and disrespected position internationally.

NEH did well in defence, he is articulate and demonstrated his intellect, flew our flag high at international defence dialogues, that is why he served the longest as defence minister
Yes, very well analysis. My views also same like yours. CCS won't make a good Defense minister and Ng was one of the best in that role for a long time. All the Shangri-la dialogue he held up well and was stern when he was supposed to. I remembered NEH telling PLA general off during one of the dialogue
 

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Yeah but eloquence does not equate to intelligence. Case in point: Amos Yee. Pretend to speak with angmo accent but the things he says has zero substance. Many celebrities are eloquent but CMI in mathematics, sciences, academics. Heard that many who worked with CCS says he has a very strategic mind despite him being not very good in language cos he's Chinese educated. Same as Low Thia Khiang. Not eloquent cos Chinese educated but certainly doesn't mean low iq


Haha
So strategic till he lost his PM race
 
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