EV driver jumped ship and tell u the cons of Ezv

[Evcats]

Best thing I enjoyed about EV is the ability to camp

 

[RyanJ]

Think that's the lane departure assist. I heard of similar, friend tried to avoid and last minute want to change lane without signaling, he could feel the steering pulling him back.

(Ice) Audi Q5 the lane assist pull is quite strong, enough to slightly hands off the steering and it still turns on a gentle curve. Bimmers and Merc the tug is not so fierce, again the ICE ones that I tried, never tried their EV.

 

[kyokoto]

As a consumer, I dont care whether its EV, ICE or ICE hybrid. I will just look at prices over 10 years and compare cars across the same range.

When I bought my Altis 3 months ago at $138k, how much EV charging cost for BYD Seal also no use because petrol can't cost $40k more over 10 years for me.

E.g. -

Hyundai Avante Hybrid vs Toyota Altis vs BYD Seal

Toyota Harrier vs BYD Sealion II

 

[Linguist]

If our cars cost 20k to 30k, then changing a new batt is like buying a new car.

But thanks to arf, coe, etc our cars are more like 200k to 300k so changing a batt is 10% of costs nia.

4d chess by pap.

 

[EJB]

(Ice) Audi Q5 the lane assist pull is quite strong, enough to slightly hands off the steering and it still turns on a gentle curve. Bimmers and Merc the tug is not so fierce, again the ICE ones that I tried, never tried their EV.

Thanks, Q5 is top in my current consideration list, not sure if can turn off LDW. Don't want to test it until I'm sure it's the one I want. Good info tho'.

 

[ask_yip]

at the end is promote to sell 2nd hand car lol

 

[paperplane1943]

waiting for hard core EV edmw-er to come in and start to pick on this
the other EV thread a few days back..got a few defensive ones...scary

also waiting for hard core EV haters to come in too...equally scary

My take on this is, just buy whatever car you want, ICE (Hybrid in future as pure ICE phasing out) or EV.

no need to convince the other side

 

[Evcats]

also waiting for hard core EV haters to come in too...equally scary

My take on this is, just buy whatever car you want, ICE (Hybrid in future as pure ICE phasing out) or EV.

It’s only a car… some are taking it more serious than getting a life partner… and ironically arguing over what another persons choice is…

 

[plexxor]

Hard truths

 

[Suporter]

If our cars cost 20k to 30k, then changing a new batt is like buying a new car.

But thanks to arf, coe, etc our cars are more like 200k to 300k so changing a batt is 10% of costs nia.

4d chess by pap.

Later then kana checkmate

 

[eyz]

Who responsible for the batteries?

If car owners bought the car, the others are responsible.

If batteries are swappable, who wants to be responsible for the batteries? Chinese manufacturers do not want to be responsible for their own products. Western manufacturers do not want to be responsible for Chinese products. Insurance do not want to insure Chinese products that's not owned by the owner.

some China manufacturers are coming with the EV model where the battery are swappable.

then you will go to the swapping station and rent a fully charged battery. when depleted, you just go to the swapping station to swap another fully charged battery.

so the owner dont own the battery and dont have to worry about deteriorating battery. also swapping battery takes just a few mins.

manufacturer are able to sell the car at a cheaper price.

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[V_for_Vanilla]

It looks cheap actually, I looked at the EQ series, smaller, and yet pricier and doesn't look nice, was considering the EQC but like you say, many issues/complains, so I also hesitate. The other EV i like is the Q4 or the Sealion7.

Q4 people tell me old tech, Sealion7 people tell me MIC... really so bad meh...

My neighbour just got a xpeng to replace his bmw. It is impressive. For EV I will probably just go with the EV leaders. Which is Tesla or any of the China makes like xpeng, BYD, zeekr.

 

[RadEoNic]

China context is must go expressway travel hundreds of km with tons of other people during festive season, like CNY. Journey so long until people can camp in car

During such times, got tons of other people trying to charge their car where chargers are limited, while ICE cars just pump full tank and zao liao

We have different problem ba. And also, hybrid for our context is the best solution currently imo

 

[EJB]

My neighbour just got a xpeng to replace his bmw. It is impressive. For EV I will probably just go with the EV leaders. Which is Tesla or any of the China makes like xpeng, BYD, zeekr.

Thought of the Sealion for this reason, the others seems to be unwilling to go deep into EV or their EVs are far from being perfect, just branding, but cars in SG is not like US we unhappy can just swap out or what, so the dilemma is there.

 

[RyanJ]

As a consumer, I dont care whether its EV, ICE or ICE hybrid. I will just look at prices over 10 years and compare cars across the same range.

When I bought my Altis 3 months ago at $138k, how much EV charging cost for BYD Seal also no use because petrol can't cost $40k more over 10 years for me.

E.g. -

Hyundai Avante Hybrid vs Toyota Altis vs BYD Seal

Toyota Harrier vs BYD Sealion II

I think if getting a new-ish EV, let the 1st owner take the huge initial depre hit might be a good value proposition. The buy back value by car traders is dismal I would think most EV owners would try their luck on the open market, and there is much room for negotiation since so many are selling vs ICE.

 

[carey]

20-30k is like 7-10y free petrol even at its current price.

But ardent EV owners would say they can save that much due to lower maintenance etc etc

 

[kmkimlo]

i will still continue with my hybrid.

normal ICE sienta - ~450
hybrid - ~620


damn good.. still dependent on the "leg" and whether longer distance drive. but add ~30% of estimated mileage compared to normal ICE is not bad liao.

 

[RyanJ]

Thought EV usually offer 10 years warranty for its battery? Same timeline as COE?

Have to check the terms and conditions.

I know of one AD.. the batt has to be quite cui before eligible for change ..

 

[carey]

to be fair, her 15 points can be summarized as battery tech and charging problems.

Some of it isn’t applicable to SG context and her 6yr old EV battery likely also considered outdated by current standards.

Don't say 6-year old battery is outdated, even a 2-year old EV tech is "outdated" compared to the new models

How many of us are comfortable with using the tech of a 6-year old phone? Now translate that into an EV

With ICE, most of the newer upgrades are good to have but not as essential as those in an EV IMHO

 

[carey]

Have to check the terms and conditions.

I know of one AD.. the batt has to be quite cui before eligible for change ..

Yup, not just EVs - even for ICE cars, the warranty is not easy to claim