[CONSOLIDATED] Air India plane crashes at India's Ahmedabad airport

[popsune1]

 

[limmk]

 

[hammerhammer]

The fuel switches need to be pull up and flip. It cannot be accidentally flip like that. Somemore that kum gong go switch off 2. When switch is flip to cut off the engine will immediately spool down and surely there will be a drop in power noticeably. Means that kum gong simultaneously switch off both engines

 

[covidneg]

Is this the result of cheating in pilot license exam?





Since 14 years ago, how many still there and what about the new "fake" license?

India may have 4000 'fake' pilots​

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/india-may-have-4000-fake-pilots-449891

 

[Cashflow202]

how you turn off fuel switch, is next level stuff


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[hammerhammer]

how you turn off fuel switch, is next level stuff


Read HWZ Forum Rules!

Ya he very wu ji. One shot turn off 2. It's like driving highway suddenly off engine

 

[junjie433]

Quoted"
"The aircraft achieved the maximum recorded airspeed of 180 Knots IAS at about 08:08:42 UTC and immediately thereafter, the Engine 1 and Engine 2 fuel cutoff switches transitioned from RUN to CUTOFF position one after another with a time gap of 01 sec.

"The Engine N1 and N2 began to decrease from their take-off values as the fuel supply to the engines was cutoff.

"In the cockpit voice recording, one of the pilots is heard asking the other why did he cutoff. The other pilot responded that he did not do so."
"
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cx20p2x9093t?post=asset:3337a2c5-fe15-469c-bbe6-6ca359352c49#post

This seem like someone got intention to crash the plane?

 

[fire]

Ya he very wu ji. One shot turn off 2. It's like driving highway suddenly off engine

Maybe he thought to put plane in cruise mode

 

[tmkedmw]

Quoted"
"The aircraft achieved the maximum recorded airspeed of 180 Knots IAS at about 08:08:42 UTC and immediately thereafter, the Engine 1 and Engine 2 fuel cutoff switches transitioned from RUN to CUTOFF position one after another with a time gap of 01 sec.

"The Engine N1 and N2 began to decrease from their take-off values as the fuel supply to the engines was cutoff.

"In the cockpit voice recording, one of the pilots is heard asking the other why did he cutoff. The other pilot responded that he did not do so."
"
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cx20p2x9093t?post=asset:3337a2c5-fe15-469c-bbe6-6ca359352c49#post

This seem like someone got intention to crash the plane?

Fuel supply cutoff at that low altitude is gone case liao ....

The design of the switch prevents an accidental bump from moving it from run to cutoff
Deliberate action needed.
See pic below

 

[RSKeisuke]

 

[coolmyth]

*Captain Steeves video*

I've been following his videos ever since this crash, and it's really a good watch. I'm amazed how much he can deliver the message implicitly.

"The aircraft achieved the maximum recorded airspeed of 180 Knots IAS at about 08:08:42 UTC and immediately thereafter, the Engine 1 and Engine 2 fuel cutoff switches transitioned from RUN to CUTOFF position one after another with a time gap of 01 sec.

"The Engine N1 and N2 began to decrease from their take-off values as the fuel supply to the engines was cutoff.

"In the cockpit voice recording, one of the pilots is heard asking the other why did he cutoff. The other pilot responded that he did not do so."

Now I want to see Captain Steeves comment on this, and the legitimacy of the training these pilots had.

To sum up this so far:

 

[ceestudent]

Cutoff fuel to save the petrol is it?

 

[dreamaurora]

Apparently nothing wrong with the plane. Now investigation will focus on the pilots. One of the pilot cutoff fuel to the engines.

The other immediately notices the error and tries to correct the mistake but it's too late...

Redditors think this is a deliberate suicide. imo, it's more likely due to sheer incompetence.

https://www.reuters.com/business/ae...r-india-crash-no-immediate-action-2025-07-11/

I think it's quite clear cut it's a murder suicide. As you can see from the pictures, both switches have to be pulled up first for them to move, and only one at a time.

The question is who did it?

 

[tmkedmw]

Investigation prelim report not released to public yet.

Tiagong is this:

The ongoing investigation into the cause of the June 12 crash of Air India flight 171 has narrowed its focus to the movement of the engine fuel control switches, following an analysis of the Boeing 787's integrated flight and voice data recorders, multiple people with knowledge of the investigation.

QFT.
Already leaked this Wednesday before the prelim report was released on Friday.

 

[rrr2015]

Apparently nothing wrong with the plane. Now investigation will focus on the pilots. One of the pilot cutoff fuel to the engines.

The other immediately notices the error and tries to correct the mistake but it's too late...

Redditors think this is a deliberate suicide. imo, it's more likely due to sheer incompetence.

https://www.reuters.com/business/ae...r-india-crash-no-immediate-action-2025-07-11/

can't be he mistook that for gear up
Captain set to retire soon & this happens

 

[jeff79]

Will insurance still payout for pilot error?

 

[tatsit]

Will insurance still payout for pilot error?

Pilot error? No, it's pilot incompetence

 

[English Teacher]

Air India crash report shows pilot confusion over engine switch movement​

NEW DELHI

• Air India crash preliminary report shows fuel cutoff switches flipped shortly after takeoff, starving engines of fuel. Pilots denied cutting off the fuel.
• Investigators found switches in "run" position at crash site, indicating potential engine relight before impact. Experts question why the switches moved.
• Probe continues into world's deadliest aviation accident in a decade while Air India faces scrutiny over safety compliance and overdue checks.

- A preliminary report depicted confusion in the cockpit shortly before

an Air India jetliner crashed, killing 260 people

in June, after the plane’s engine fuel cutoff switches almost simultaneously flipped, starving the engines of fuel.


The Boeing 787 Dreamliner bound for London from the Indian city of Ahmedabad immediately began to lose thrust and sink down, according to the report on the world’s deadliest aviation accident in a decade released on July 12 by Indian aviation accident investigators.

The report by India’s Aircraft Accident Investigation Bureau (AAIB) about the June 12 crash shortly after takeoff raises fresh questions over the position of the critical engines fuel cutoff switches, while suggesting that Boeing and engine maker GE had no apparent responsibility for the accident.

The crash is a challenge for Tata Group’s ambitious campaign to restore Air India’s reputation and revamp its fleet, after taking over the carrier from the government in 2022.

Almost immediately after the plane lifted off the ground, CCTV footage shows a backup energy source called a ram air turbine had deployed, indicating a loss of power from the engines.

In the flight’s final moment, one pilot was heard on the cockpit voice recorder asking the other why he cut off the fuel.

“The other pilot responded that he did not do so,” the report said.


https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/s...ia-crash-no-immediate-action-for-boeing-or-ge

 

[English Teacher]

sounds like a horrendous human error to me.

one more airline to avoid

 

[CaiPuDan]

the pilots also dead how they deny. oh before the crash.