[GLGT] Minister Ong Ye Kung Responds to KF Seetoh’s Untrue Claims About Bukit Canberra Hawker Centre

[krikering]

no idea. but sure will have ppl baotoh de la.

i give him thumbs up for taking the heat also, and its good to bring out all these issue in the open. So if the management deny the facts, next time they cannot insist or penalise the stall holders liao.

KF Seetoh's latest FB post on this issue

 

[ShinnAsuka]

It's not contradictory, it's in black & white agreement. OYK never proof check his source of info, just shoot. So foolish and shouldn't be a mistake from a minister

Come on, his 曬曬太陽冠病就不見 already long forgotten.

 

[eno_lc]

Even CNA now also come out to 打脸 Canopy?

Managing partner of Lighthouse Law Adrian Wee said it does not appear from the wording of these clauses that the hawkers’ participation in the scheme is voluntary.

"The use of the word 'shall' suggests that the tenant is obliged to participate in the scheme and that this is one of the several obligations imposed on the tenant under the tenancy.

“The fact that the scheme has not yet started has no bearing on whether the tenant will eventually be obliged to participate if and when the scheme starts," he added.

Lawyer Chooi Jing Yen also agreed that the word "shall" means the hawkers legally have to participate in the scheme.

"Technically, if the hawkers fail to comply, that would be a breach of the contract," he said.

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/bukit-canberra-hawker-centre-free-meals-lawyers-5294926

 

[Shalomp]

 

[DW]

I guess at the end of the day no one really cares except for seetoh and those hawker affected

 

[Singapore金枪不倒]

Esteemed minister got new post on Facebook. Looks like he doesn’t seem interested to respond

Knowing him, he confirm already fk upside down the underling who gave him the initial information liao. Now probably waiting for more detailed report. If results not favourable, diam diam carry on no sound no picture. But if new facts are discovered that can use as ammo then he will bring it up again.

 

[barbaricboon]

NEA subcontract the operation of SeHC to operator, most likely with the clause of offering 1 cheap dish/free meal etc included.

The operator since it is profit driven, will try to squeeze the tenants to maximize profits. For this case, this operator already "kind" enough not to enforce the free meal thingy onto the tenants compared to other operator.

The problem now is NEA. They did not realize for this HC, the social Enterprise thingy(free meal etc) was not implemented, and most likely NEA audit was not carry out on this operator.

The black hearted other operators will be fine actually since they fufill the requirement from NEA, although they pushed the burden to the tenants to maximize profits.

If they Kanna complain from the public, they can response by saying the rental rate for the tenants is at a lower market rate compared to mature HC.

 

[shikoo]

 

[kimying]

Canpoy food arrow the hawkers to do the society enterprise but did they themselve do it?n then they go claim the special funding from govt to buy gcb b laboginia

 

[Joey5555]

If Canopy Hawker Group later decides to enforce the relevant penalties, hawkers may rely on the legal principle of “estoppel” as a defence, he added.

"(This means that) the hawkers can say, 'sorry, despite what has been written in the contract, you have separately and publicly stated that this is a voluntary obligation'," said Mr Chooi.

lol so minister and landlord just sabotage themselves and made their own T&C void?

In my opinion just sign a new contract or an amendment that omits this clause la. You are supposed to work with the hawkers to come up with affordable meals. But you just throw everything on the hawkers, ownself don’t need to come out a single cent. Really is socialize cost, privatise profits.

To be frank, the government plays a part too. They mandate the SEHC has to provide affordable meals. Then this bugger comes up with this proposal that puts the entire responsibility on the hawkers. And they award the tender to him. Doesn’t that mean they agree that the hawkers should bear the full costs of subsidizing the meals and thus enabled this whole fiasco?

 

[JivBunny]

More keen to know who are the real bosses of the canopy hawkers group that is running the hawker center.

 

[kimying]

More keen to know who are the real bosses of the canopy hawkers group that is running the hawker center.

Cfm is pap cronies lai de
Let me tell u this will be swept under the carpet......hahaha song boh sinkies u voted for this

 

[JivBunny]

OYK, backside itchy and go open his fat mouth when it was the issue of the hawker operator and NEA.

Then now diam diam ...... nothing better to do then do tik tok la......

 

[priore]

Ah, I see how this works now.

So this article essentially puts Canopy Food in a bad light but providing leeway for Min Ong.

Min Ong never made a mistake, what he said was his intention and he will make it so.

So it was a foreshadowing that Canopy Food now need to suck it up. In essence, the narrative and optics is to now back up with lawyers words, then refer back to what Min Ong said - that what he said is with full awareness of this situation and that Canopy Food should make it right.

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Guys, come on. Business man, adults, drafting of contract, choice of vocabulary.... Are we really gonna sit here and all act stupid?

Like all the smart ppl when drafting the contact used the word shall with all intent and purposes to make it binding, then somehow when this issue blow up then tarik and say "oh Yea, I mean it's voluntary and because we over subscribe so we choose those who want to volunteer with us"...

Really?

All working professional adults, lawyers and business man, intentionally have the word "shall" written inside and now wanna play dumb?

Really?? First time drafting contract issit?

Want to give urself the legal muscle to sue when they breach to cover up for potential bad media day, say la.

Want to give urself the legal manoeuvring space to LD for damages when breach, say la.

Didn't have any intention to be altruistic, to be voluntary, say la.

 

[archie7]

our Govt always have a funny way of using and interpreting english
very different from common folks

 

[deathan9el]

even lawyers involved as well in this

 

[kimying]

Where is the society enterprise done by canopu food huh??

 

[Ender]

this si lang operator enjoy the undeserving reputation points for operating a social enterprise hawker centre, while the hawker are the only one bearing the burden of being social enterprise.

 

[Ender]

 

[aphel14]

shameless minister shoot off his mouth without facts, kena caught with pants down so now act blur.

this is the type sh!t... i mean caliber of world's highest paid million dollar minister we have. xiasuay max