[[ Official Jul 2025 BTO ]]

eatingtunic

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July Sbf 3 room, Tengah
50/63

Number near end but good thing is all bto and not old flat like other places.
 
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xiaohwaa

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i kena 45/378 for geylang area july sbf.

i 2nd timer first time do hfe to try try. initially wanted to try oct one but try the July sbf see will kena anot.
 

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i kena 45/378 for geylang area july sbf.

i 2nd timer first time do hfe to try try. initially wanted to try oct one but try the July sbf see will kena anot.
Lol it show that 2nd timer still have higher chance to get SBF... congrats to you

Google AI still saying "2nd timer queue is lower than 1st timer"....

At least a proof that 2nd timer can get a good number...
 
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Lol it show that 2nd timer still have higher chance to get SBF... congrats to you

Google AI still saying "2nd timer queue is lower than 1st timer"....

At least a proof that 2nd timer can get a good number...

2nd timer does have a lower chance of getting a queue number. It doesn't mean that the queue number will be near the back of the line.
 

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Lol it show that 2nd timer still have higher chance to get SBF... congrats to you

Google AI still saying "2nd timer queue is lower than 1st timer"....

At least a proof that 2nd timer can get a good number...
Kallang Whampoa July SBF

600 units, 580 first and second timer applicants. 100% guaranteed a flat. Happy happy
 

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2nd timer does have a lower chance of getting a queue number. It doesn't mean that the queue number will be near the back of the line.
The Google AI statement wrote this:

"No, an HDB second-timer does not get a lower queue number than a first-timer. In fact, a first-timer is more likely to get a lower queue number because they receive two chances in the HDB ballot compared to the single chance for a second-timer. While a second-timer is less likely to secure a flat due to the lower allocation percentage and fewer ballot chances, the specific queue number assigned to successful applicants is still randomly generated."

At least I saw some 2nd timer managed to get a very good queue number, so the AI statement can be void...
 

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i kena 45/378 for geylang area july sbf.

i 2nd timer first time do hfe to try try. initially wanted to try oct one but try the July sbf see will kena anot.
Do you have any trick? Join RC become chairman?
 

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The Google AI statement wrote this:

"No, an HDB second-timer does not get a lower queue number than a first-timer. In fact, a first-timer is more likely to get a lower queue number because they receive two chances in the HDB ballot compared to the single chance for a second-timer. While a second-timer is less likely to secure a flat due to the lower allocation percentage and fewer ballot chances, the specific queue number assigned to successful applicants is still randomly generated."

At least I saw some 2nd timer managed to get a very good queue number, so the AI statement can be void...

AI is generic grab from sources..

The sentence in bold kinda contradict the first..
 

xiaohwaa

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while waiting for the Oct bto, i thought why not give july sbf a try since the HFE was done.

initially wanted kallang/whampoa and submitted, then cancel and re-submit for geylang area.

surprisingly the number is quite good and now the dilemma is whether to sell my current flat anot. still in the same area but 5I which is big. currently the place i stay the block layout is good, per level is only 5 units and everyone is nice.

the only headache of staying at hdb is u are not sure what kind of neighbours u will be with, that's life changing.

pros of changing
-lease is new
-house is new

cons
-smaller
-neighbours still uknown.
 
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Hmmmm you can refer to below threads..

https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/threads/does-grassroots-get-priority-for-bto.7095102/

Ballot is not transparent, so whatever thing happened, we might not know, the so call "luck" I dont quite believed

BTO =/= SBF. For BTO, there is the GRO scheme where some units are allocated for grassroots members. Even you've referred to a link specifically for BTO, not SBF. Actually if you use telegram, you can gauge the percentage allocated to be around 12%-15% (can't recall the exact number). They're all the smaller queue numbers, so you can expect that queue number 1 is also them.

There's also MGPS for BTO, or now known as FCS (joint balloting). Also has a pool of units allocated to them, and can have a separate queue number 1. They'll also have small number. This is also transparent on the HDB website, also the information can be confusing. I applied under this scheme for BTO and I was the first to select. My queue number is a single digit.

Now those are all for BTOs only. For SBF, those two scheme don't apply. Does that mean that grassroots cannot apply? No. They can apply as a public queue. Unlike BTO, they don't have a set of units allocated to them, they don't need to serve an additional year when they secure an SBF flat, and they don't have a guaranteed small queue number.

It's not all transparent on the HDB website, but if you look outside of HWZ and the nonsense AI world, there are information online about it. Most of it is in telegram though.

The balloting process is already as transparent as it should be, but of course everyone will scream for full transparency even if they won't understand the process, which will cause more misunderstanding. For one, you already cannot differentiate between the BTO and SBF priority schemes. It's up to you if you believe in conspiracy theories though, but to me, it's easier to understand the process.

 

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while waiting for the Oct bto, i thought why not give july sbf a try since the HFE was done.

initially wanted kallang/whampoa and submitted, then cancel and re-submit for geylang area.

surprisingly the number is quite good and now the dilemma is whether to sell my current flat anot. still in the same area but 5I which is big. currently the place i stay the block layout is good, per level is only 5 units and everyone is nice.

the only headache of staying at hdb is u are not sure what kind of neighbours u will be with, that's life changing.

pros of changing
-lease is new
-house is new

cons
-smaller
-neighbours still uknown.
then why u ballot if not sure ?
 

xiaohwaa

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then why u ballot if not sure ?

cos technically it's still the same area I'm staying now. everything same just neighbours unknown and size smaller.

i ballot with the thinking that if able to get a good number (able to choose a relatively better unit) then will consider moving.

me and wife have abit of different ideas, i wanted to be slightly a little far from inlaws so i prefer kallang/whampoa but wife prefers to be closer to her parents so geylang.

we likely will move.
 
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