[OFFICIAL][CONSOLIDATED] Age Verification Discussion Thread

[JivBunny]

Long story short, yes. AI LLMs are very stupid. They need time and exposure to refine themselves.

Come on la, who u kidding? Basically SPH just set to block words blindly. If it cannot differentiate the use of the word sh 1t as cursing or part of sentence which means otherwise. Then I think SPH is paying for crap and lousy LLM.

 

[articland05]

Illogical Censorship is one way of killing edmw/hwz like how SPH has done for Straits Time.

Good job screwing things up.

aiya...edmw wont die one
but this singpass move will certainty tame edmw massively

imda is brutal

 

[Dr.Vijay]

No point lah when my this afternoon casual post in Spike's Beijing trip for nothing got boxed up. I usually type longer post and if after spending sometime typing then got boxed by the unintelligent AI, waste my time and efforts.

Will find another place and gradually fade off from here bah (my 感情 here not as deep as those Senior ones here).

Flag it to us if it's misclassified? Can help us improve it if there's really nothing harmful.

Easy way is to just post another reply and tag us. I understand the current problem where one is unable to modify their own post. Let us work on that point.

#teethingissues

 

[cosmothecat]

Come on la, who u kidding? Basically SPH just set to block words blindly. If it cannot differentiate the use of the word sh 1t as cursing or part of sentence which means otherwise. Then I think SPH is paying for crap and lousy LLM.

No sh 1t

see, using normally as an expression

 

[tarui04]

We are probably a testbed for future age related restrictions for social media.

No need so slow la. Make it mandatory for all pc to have a camera facing the user and must sign in when using the pc. All homes must have cctvs linked to their server.


Afterall can always rely on the phrase "if you don't do anything illegal why are you scared of" works so well.

 

[JivBunny]

No sh 1t

see, using normally as an expression

Try using the word as it is. U see how fast it will be censored.

 

[tarui04]

Yes it looks like it is sent too.
Again SPH insists they do not save Singpass data, so it should not be recorded.

This does not discount them saving a irreversable hash of DOB and username to check for attempts to use the same Singpass across multiple accounts though.

*cough* tracetogether *cough*

 

[DragonFire]

No need so slow la. Make it mandatory for all pc to have a camera facing the user and must sign in when using the pc. All homes must have cctvs linked to their server.


Afterall can always rely on the phrase "if you don't do anything illegal why are you scared of" works so well.

What's to say it isn't already being done? Our cameras and microphones may be listening in even as we speak.

 

[JivBunny]

No need so slow la. Make it mandatory for all pc to have a camera facing the user and must sign in when using the pc. All homes must have cctvs linked to their server.


Afterall can always rely on the phrase "if you don't do anything illegal why are you scared of" works so well.

Who defines the word illegal?

Just like how Orange man decides someone in Venezuela as doing something illegal in US and decides to trial him by flying him back to US?

 

[tarui04]

Flag it to us if it's misclassified? Can help us improve it if there's really nothing harmful.

Easy way is to just post another reply and tag us. I understand the current problem where one is unable to modify their own post. Let us work on that point.

#teethingissues

Drvijay. It's not users' duty or responsibility help you guys fine tune or improve a hopelessly unpopular measure against users.

 

[DragonFire]

Try using the word as it is. U see how fast it will be censored.

That actually is the beauty of a functioning AI model. It can differentiate abusive application of a word from applications where it is used as emphasis.

 

[JivBunny]

That actually is the beauty of a functioning AI model. It can differentiate abusive application of a word from applications where it is used as emphasis.

And yet till today. SPH still cannot get a proper LLM to be able to do so.

Pathetic. Just like how the Straits Times is.

 

[DragonFire]

Drvijay. It's not users' duty or responsibility help you guys fine tune or improve a hopelessly unpopular measure against users.

Technically there isn't any need for the user to hang around either. This hopelessly unpopular measure is ultimately the proxied will of the 65%... It is pretty much here to stay.

 

[cal127]

Long story short, yes. AI LLMs are very stupid - when untrained or trained inadequately. They need time and exposure to refine themselves.

Nah, that would expensive to run for every single post for edmw alone. Probably just simple NLP filter. That's why a list would be helpful.

 

[DragonFire]

And yet till today. SPH still cannot get a proper LLM to be able to do so.

Pathetic. Just like how the Straits Times is.

They're probably training their own. Cheaper than buying a license for a ready made one.

 

[mummynew]

Flag it to us if it's misclassified? Can help us improve it if there's really nothing harmful.

Easy way is to just post another reply and tag us. I understand the current problem where one is unable to modify their own post. Let us work on that point.

#teethingissues

How to flag if Spike didn't quote me in his reply?

Anyway, my last post for all to see whether you can find which word I used was offending. No s h x t inside.



*Spike enlarged the font of 'massive walking' from my text.

 

[articland05]

ooh my innocent post #2156 above rip again
can any mod explain the rationale ?

because u criticize the authority
罪该万死

 

[DragonFire]

Nah, that would expensive to run for every single post for edmw alone. Probably just simple NLP filter. That's why a list would be helpful.

A highly specialized language filter LLM doesn't need that much living space though. It might even be run/sponsored by IMDA.

 

[JivBunny]

R
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Also can get censored in the jump off building thread……

Well done clever AI or should I say….. censorship of SPH

 

[articland05]

How to flag if Spike didn't quote me in his reply?

wait for another verified 好心人 to quote