M1 FIBRE BROADBAND DISCUSSION - Part 2

[gapboy]

It's up to you.

Mine are combined so it's just one SSID, every connects to the right frequency. No concerns since it works well.

Modern devices have been optimised, and if you configure your APs correctly with Band Steering set up and the power optimised, it shouldn't be an issue.

There are many here who insist on separation. Because in the past devices were stupider and would just default to the slower bands. Or in some cases, because it's misconfigured such that the 2.4Ghz band is too strong, devices fall to that rather than use faster bands.

To each their own.

1 question if I combine all 3 together will some of my older smart devices using 2.4ghz be affected? or still function properly?

 

[twosix]

1 question if I combine all 3 together will some of my older smart devices using 2.4ghz be affected? or still function properly?

I have been using 1 ssid to combine both 2.4 and 5ghz bands since it is available. no problem with old iot devices too.

 

[cyberet]

just installed the new router with 6Gbps plan. the technician asked if i wanted to combine all 3 frequencies together, he said it is recommended to. Previously my 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz were separate frequencies which I can choose between. Should I combine or separate the 3 frequencies?

if you just want wifi connection and don't bother about speed/latency/response time. its ok to combine all 3 frequencies.

But if you want control and optimise individual devices, then you would have to seperate the 3 frequencies.

 

[ianonline]

1 question if I combine all 3 together will some of my older smart devices using 2.4ghz be affected? or still function properly?

If our eyes can see the signals, we will see 3 INDIVIDUAL stream of signals coming out from the router representing each frequencies. it's just that our devices by some standards ( IEEE 802.11 blah blah) these 3 signals will be listed as one, that's why you see only 1 SSID in your wifi list...

in older devices that can only do 2.4 ghz, then they can only see the 2.4 ghz signal.

so to answer your question, your older smart device will see only the 2.4 ghz and will connect to it without any problem.

 

[gapboy]

If our eyes can see the signals, we will see 3 INDIVIDUAL stream of signals coming out from the router representing each frequencies. it's just that our devices by some standards (
IEEE 802.11
blah blah)
these 3 signals will be listed as one, that's why you see only 1 SSID in your wifi list...
in older devices that can only do 2.4 ghz, then they can only see the 2.4 ghz signal.
so to answer your question, your older smart device will see only the 2.4 ghz and will connect to it without any problem.

gotcha .. thanks for the response


ignore this..

 

[firesong]

1 question if I combine all 3 together will some of my older smart devices using 2.4ghz be affected? or still function properly?

If properly set up and fully standards compliant, no concerns. It will connect to the correct band and steer automatically to the fastest possible band that's strong enough.

Yes there will be multiple broadcasts too if you use a wifi sniffer, but it works well in practice.

 

[firesong]

if you just want wifi connection and don't bother about speed/latency/response time. its ok to combine all 3 frequencies.

But if you want control and optimise individual devices, then you would have to seperate the 3 frequencies.

Again this is a false setup. If your wifi hardware is properly setup with adequate coverage, then it doesn't matter whether they are on the same SSID or separate. In many ways, having the same SSID works better (roaming, handover, band steering etc) than forcing individual ones.

It's when things are suboptimal then we have people insisting on separate SSIDs to "force" connections. And a lot of these are the "one router do all" folks, or at least those who continue to advocate such practices since the time of 802.11n - a 2009 standard that was around in draft before that ratification year.

 

[hyperfuse]

i think this is a typo on m1 website. $34.90 with free router for 10gbps plan. even cheaper than the 6gbps plan haha.... shows 34.90 and still say 55.90 for new sign up and 63.90 for recontract. Totally doesnt make sense for this advert. the person doing up the website needs to do it properly lol



i was able to recontract from last november but waiting for contract to end....to see if there are better plans coming along as my plan contract ends in march 2026.

 

[1 Ghz]

i think this is a typo on m1 website. $34.90 with free router for 10gbps plan. even cheaper than the 6gbps plan haha.... shows 34.90 and still say 55.90 for new sign up and 63.90 for recontract. Totally doesnt make sense for this advert. the person doing up the website needs to do it properly lol



i was able to recontract from last november but waiting for contract to end....to see if there are better plans coming along as my plan contract ends in march 2026.

Not seeing the free router for 10G plan when I visit the page.

 

[jies5085]

same offer back:

HomePac 6Gbps​

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This plan comes with:

• 24 mths HomePac 6Gbps
• Choose 1 for free:
• TP-Link Archer BE805
• ASUS RT-BE92U
• Or top up $12/mth for ASUS ZenWiFi BT10
• Free registration (worth $61.04)
• Free ONT Activation for all time slots (worth up to $123.41)
• Free Home Fixed Voice Service
• Free 24 mths Mobile Broadband (Bespoke SurfValue)
• If the router you’re looking for is not shown, it is out of stock. Visit any M1 Shop for additional router availability.

$39.9

This offer is valid until 3 March 2026.

I had received the same offer with above @$37.90, valid until 31/03/26

 

[xiaofan]

Just saw M1 Shop Jurong Point has the S$30.90 per month 10Gbps without router offer again for Chinese New Year, just like the Christmas offer. It is supposed to be for new users only.

The website still shows S$34.90 per month now.
https://www.m1.com.sg/home-broadband

 

[lightningroood]

With less than a month left on my 500mbps contract, today I finally received retrontract offer via sms:
3Gbps with BE230/BE58U @30.90
6Gbps with BE805/BE92U @37.90

The offer is fine but since I had lots of issue with m1 lately and expected the recontract offer wouldn't be that great, so I decided to give whizhcomms a try earlier this month. I went for the 3Gbps no router plan @26. The setup went quite smooth. ONR bridging was very straight forward thanks to the superadmin password thread. So far I see improvements over m1 in following areas:
1. No more youtube buffering issue.
2. Huge improvment in routing to China which is a great plus considering how costly it is generally to get good connectivity to China.
3. Much more responsive access to my VPS in the US at night. It was very sluggish on m1 espeically during peak hours at night.

Although I often see people have negative views on whizcomms on this forum, in the end I find it fits my needs extremely well and couldn't be happier. After so many years with m1, it's time to say goodbye.

 

[rajeev3001]

With less than a month left on my 500mbps contract, today I finally received retrontract offer via sms:
3Gbps with BE230/BE58U @30.90
6Gbps with BE805/BE92U @37.90

The offer is fine but since I had lots of issue with m1 lately and expected the recontract offer wouldn't be that great, so I decided to give whizhcomms a try earlier this month. I went for the 3Gbps no router plan @26. The setup went quite smooth. ONR bridging was very straight forward thanks to the superadmin password thread. So far I see improvements over m1 in following areas:
1. No more youtube buffering issue.
2. Huge improvment in routing to China which is a great plus considering how costly it is generally to get good connectivity to China.
3. Much more responsive access to my VPS in the US at night. It was very sluggish on m1 espeically during peak hours at night.

Although I often see people have negative views on whizcomms on this forum, in the end I find it fits my needs extremely well and couldn't be happier. After so many years with m1, it's time to say goodbye.

Been on Whizcomms 500mbps for several years (no contract for last few years) and considering move to Starhub or M1 soon. Experiencing slowness lately sometimes in the evenings.

Is M1 buffering issue only for youtube? How about other streaming services?
How about whatsapp or zoom calls, do they get stuck?

I WFH few days per week, have to remote-connect to office computer... so looking for a stable connection.

 

[cyberet]

Again this is a false setup. If your wifi hardware is properly setup with adequate coverage, then it doesn't matter whether they are on the same SSID or separate. In many ways, having the same SSID works better (roaming, handover, band steering etc) than forcing individual ones.

It's when things are suboptimal then we have people insisting on separate SSIDs to "force" connections. And a lot of these are the "one router do all" folks, or at least those who continue to advocate such practices since the time of 802.11n - a 2009 standard that was around in draft before that ratification year.

yeap, keyphrase being "properly setup with adequate coverage"

 

[raymondkap]

Is the M1 10Gbps ONT plan behind CGNAT?

 

[xiaofan]

Is the M1 10Gbps ONT plan behind CGNAT?

No. Singtel, M1, Starhub, WC and eight Home Internet all have public IPv4 address and not behind CGNAT.

Only MR, VQ and SIMBA are behind CGNAT. MR and VQ have static IPv4 add-on to get public IPv4 address. SIMBA does not have the static IPv4 add-on -- so not possible to get public IPv4 address.

 

[Gullit]

just upgraded to 10gpbs last week. Any recommendation to what network card i should get for my desktop to maximise the speed?

 

[1 Ghz]

just upgraded to 10gpbs last week. Any recommendation to what network card i should get for my desktop to maximise the speed?

Refer to this thread.

 

[hyperfuse]

Just saw M1 Shop Jurong Point has the S$30.90 per month 10Gbps without router offer again for Chinese New Year, just like the Christmas offer. It is supposed to be for new users only.

The website still shows S$34.90 per month now.
https://www.m1.com.sg/home-broadband

not sure if this only apply to jurong point branch or all other m1 shop locations~

 

[xiaofan]

not sure if this only apply to jurong point branch or all other m1 shop locations~

Should be applicable to all M1 Shop locations.