NUS ppl lip lai - Part 4

[carlogambino]

CSB. Employers don't look at students' CAP when they apply for internship lar. I know of people who ain't 2nd Upper and secured internships (Student Internship Programme) when applied thru school (SOC).

Depends on the firm. Certain firms (particular MNCs etc) have very rigorous selection processes even for interns. I came to know this from a friend working in HR for one of the aforementioned firms.

 

[carlogambino]

dude its 5.5 mths, meaning it stretches beyond the semester, the school can just give him a deferment letter not to mention its only 1 week..

for 3mths its impossible, the school already says no internship if u kena call back for ICT during black out period unless u can cham siong with ur employer to disappear during ur ict or cham siong with ur CO to defer

Just cham siong with employer to disappear, AFAIK most of them are fine with that tbh

 

[reddino]

CSB. Employers don't look at students' CAP when they apply for internship lar. I know of people who ain't 2nd Upper and secured internships (Student Internship Programme) when applied thru school (SOC).

That means the internship post is not over subscribed Employers don't look at students' CAP because the school has already filtered the CAP for them.

 

[carlogambino]

Ok, yah something like that. The reason why I say that is because these days the trend is for companies(especially MNCs) to have some kind of a competency test as part of the hiring process.

They basically give you a chance to talk about occasions when you had to work as part of a team, take up a leadership role and etc. These need not be a CCA thing and some coys will go as far as observing interviewees in team-based games/scenarios. In this kind of cases, it doesn't matter if you were the president of 3 CCAs or whatever, a position in name won't help.

There are various methods to assess potential employees nowadays:

1. Written tests -- this could be an essay or a hypothetical based question
2. Psychometric tests -- akin to IQ tests
3. Assessment centres -- recruiters observe potential employees in team based scenarios, usually the team is tasked to solve a hypothetical problem
4. Interviews -- this could range from panel interviews to group interviews to one on one interviews
5. Technical tests -- depends on the job, e.g coding on the spot, solving problems on the spot, etc.

One tip from a director (from the civil service) I spoke to: He said that interviews probably play the most important role in the hiring decision process. A few well-placed and intelligent questions can easily distinguish the good from the average, the excellent from the good and the best from the excellent.

 

[mgx-alander]

There are various methods to assess potential employees nowadays:

1. Written tests -- this could be an essay or a hypothetical based question
2. Psychometric tests -- akin to IQ tests
3. Assessment centres -- recruiters observe potential employees in team based scenarios, usually the team is tasked to solve a hypothetical problem
4. Interviews -- this could range from panel interviews to group interviews to one on one interviews
5. Technical tests -- depends on the job, e.g coding on the spot, solving problems on the spot, etc.

One tip from a director (from the civil service) I spoke to: He said that interviews probably play the most important role in the hiring decision process. A few well-placed and intelligent questions can easily distinguish the good from the average, the excellent from the good and the best from the excellent.

csb

there are ppl who can talk alot of cock but cannot do

there are ppl who know how to do but duno how to explain

true story

 

[carlogambino]

csb

there are ppl who can talk alot of cock but cannot do

there are ppl who know how to do but duno how to explain

true story

i kinda agree with you but that's what the director said, serious :/

 

[gamerx]

There are various methods to assess potential employees nowadays:

1. Written tests -- this could be an essay or a hypothetical based question
2. Psychometric tests -- akin to IQ tests
3. Assessment centres -- recruiters observe potential employees in team based scenarios, usually the team is tasked to solve a hypothetical problem
4. Interviews -- this could range from panel interviews to group interviews to one on one interviews
5. Technical tests -- depends on the job, e.g coding on the spot, solving problems on the spot, etc.

One tip from a director (from the civil service) I spoke to: He said that interviews probably play the most important role in the hiring decision process. A few well-placed and intelligent questions can easily distinguish the good from the average, the excellent from the good and the best from the excellent.

I second the interview part. I interned at a govt agency, the perm staffs mentioned that as well.

 

[mgx-alander]

i think i may pass 5 and fail 4

i seriously suck at interview skills lol

 

[Geforce3]

CSB. Employers don't look at students' CAP when they apply for internship lar. I know of people who ain't 2nd Upper and secured internships (Student Internship Programme) when applied thru school (SOC).

cause they despo for cheap labor

 

[Agravaine]

CSB. Employers don't look at students' CAP when they apply for internship lar. I know of people who ain't 2nd Upper and secured internships (Student Internship Programme) when applied thru school (SOC).

The better firms definitely look at your grades. That's the easiest way to filter through the thousands of applicants they get.

 

[Irenicis]

I second the interview part. I interned at a govt agency, the perm staffs mentioned that as well.

how to get internship at a government agency ar?

 

[mgx-alander]

smu dog shld be corp dog

no need go govt agency huan

 

[swordsly]

honestly i can't be bothered with the words of a director from the civil service. it's civil service for pete's sake.

and honestly, what he said is pretty common sense ya? (aside from what mgx mentioned)

 

[Jiaw3i]

That means the internship post is not over subscribed Employers don't look at students' CAP because the school has already filtered the CAP for them.

I see. From the internship interviews that I been through, I think employers are more interested in the skillsets, knowledge and industrial experience of the student. CAP is not really a deciding factor compared to those attributes I mentioned.

 

[Rusty89]

Yarloz. somehow i feel that ability to study "dead" books dont akin to better performance at work. Knowledge is important but attitude is even more crucial at work. Just feel that interview shld give us who din do well in studies a better chance to prove ourselves.

 

[swordsly]

Yarloz. somehow i feel that ability to study "dead" books dont akin to better performance at work. Knowledge is important but attitude is even more crucial at work. Just feel that interview shld give us who din do well in studies a better chance to prove ourselves.

in a way i guess many many others feel the same too (that CAP doesnt necessarily translate to ability).
but as a in-built defensive mechanism (sort of), we need some form of assurance and that comes in the form of grades in this reality. (even though this assurance is likely to be imaginative and false)

what my friend told me when he work in HR is this: filter applications according to the post requirements (which include your field of specialisation + job experience) then follow by grades.

 

[Darkzi0n]

aiya.. no point worrying too much lar... if u can be ace in every thing den of cos good... but if u are jus a jack, den find ur playing field n focus on it loh.

 

[gamerx]

how to get internship at a government agency ar?

Apply through school or to the agency itself lor, it's no different from applying to any coy in the private sector.

 

[Rusty89]

Haha yarloz suddenly this thread becomes so tensed up and everyone is worrying including me

Guess sg is just too competitive le ba

 

[mgx-alander]

hi guys, anyone know how to derive our current matric number, by some sort of algorithm.

I was confuse about the checksum thingy ((C1,C2,C3,C4,C5)*(12,10,12,11,6))+12) % 13

this is for U0 student but i dont know how to work on this formula

Any help? thx

Assuming U0912345X

where X is the unknown variable

U{0Y} is the prefix and is not part of the computation, where Y is the year of matriculation (2009 = u09, 2008 = u08, not applicable for a00s or matric after 2010)

C1 to C5 denotes places after prefix
hence
C1 = 1, C2 = 2, C3 = 3, C4 = 4, C5 = 5
the 2nd bracket denotes multipler call it m
By defintion M1 = 12, M2 = 10, M3 = 12, M4 = 11 M5 = 6
(C1,C2,C3,C4,C5)*(12,10,12,11,6) means
Summation Ci x Mi = a variable k


hence
((C1,C2,C3,C4,C5)*(12,10,12,11,6))+12) % 13 =
(k+12)%13

In the example: k = 142
(k+12) % 13 = 154%13 = 10


From the table 10 Maps W

and hence the answer is U0912345W