The Intel LGA1150 Haswell Owners Thread & Survey (H.O.T.S)

[Nickzz]

Haswell revolution.

 

[MacClipper]

Z87 and 4th Generation Core Series Processor Overclocking Outlineedit.rar | Uloz.to

Enjoy, as usual YMMV.

 

[Maeda_Toshiie]

Do the non -k processors support BCLK overclock?

 

[MacClipper]

From what I have read, no.

 

[NY__chickenpie]

33 Haswell motherboard group test: 26x Z87, 4x H87 and 3x B85 | Hardware.Info United States

33 Haswell motherboard group test: 26x Z87, 4x H87 and 3x B85!!!

 

[muddle]

May i know whats the highest clock non k can achieve? Thanks.

 

[junialum]

Waiting for all the first round benchies, comparisons of mobos! Here comes 3-4 months of mobo research for a possible i7 4770k purchase.

 

[MacClipper]

Local K CPU prices seem almost on par with HK for now
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[MacClipper]

Msia CPU prices are ~10% lower at C-zone than our local pricing

 

[muddle]

K cpu also cant oc that high. Tink better get non k version with the h87 mobo

 

[aCuria]

Ya I agree. I also prefer that they gave us 6 cores, but then that will just eat into the E series, whatever that is supposed to be called. Intel's marketers got us by the balls. For me it's either MSI Z87-GD45 Gaming or ASRock Z87 Extreme 4. Slightly leaning towards the MSI due to the Killer LAN (although it might turn out to be snake oil). I condemned ASUS liao due to their lack of innovation as well as super ulu service center.

Also looking for my next PSU. I want a platinum but all the platinum PSUs too high wattage. I measure that my system's load power draw with my current system is typically 250W, so my optimum PSU wattage is 500W~.

Oh ya. Haswell SKU. Probably i7-4770 non K for me. The K processors do not implement the new Transactional Synchronization Extensions (TSX), which might be helpful for multithreaded workloads.

Where did you get this information from? is TSX implemented on ALL non-k haswell skus?

Edit:

I found it, you are correct, TSX is NOT IMPLEMENTED on the k series skus. that is such a bummer. How they can remove features and charge more is beyond me. TSX is like the most interesting thing haswell brings to the table.

http://ark.intel.com/products/75123/Intel-Core-i7-4770K-Processor-8M-Cache-up-to-3_90-GHz

 

[snipes14]

Where did you get this information from? is TSX implemented on ALL non-k haswell skus?

Edit:

I found it, you are correct, TSX is NOT IMPLEMENTED on the k series skus. that is such a bummer. How they can remove features and charge more is beyond me. TSX is like the most interesting thing haswell brings to the table.

ARK | Intel® Core

Yup, it seems that if a CPU is a K series then TSX is not present. However two non-K CPUs don't have TSX as well: The i5-4330 and i5-4330S. I got my information primarily from this table here:

Core i7-4770K: Haswell's Performance, Previewed : Core i7-4770K Gets Previewed

Unfortunately it's a piece of information that not many sites cover.

I think Intel is causing quite a bit of confusion with their products like this, as what SKU has TSX or not is quite arbitrary.

 

[duffie]

Where did you get this information from? is TSX implemented on ALL non-k haswell skus?

Edit:

I found it, you are correct, TSX is NOT IMPLEMENTED on the k series skus. that is such a bummer. How they can remove features and charge more is beyond me. TSX is like the most interesting thing haswell brings to the table.

ARK | Intel® Core

Not really a bummer, they always do that. They crippled the i7-3770k as well.

 

[m3 th3 last]

May i know whats the highest clock non k can achieve? Thanks.

2 Piece of article you should read

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/core-i7-4770k-haswell-review,3521.html

http://http://www.anandtech.com/show/7003/the-haswell-review-intel-core-i74770k-i54560k-tested

Think around 3.9 ghz (base is 3.5) on air with 1.2v, based on what i have seen on tomshardware and anandtech.

However they did not show the temperature so i dare not say much, earlier Chinese website stated that using the stock cooler provided by intel u can't overclock much as it generate much more heat compared to ivy bridge.

Going wait for more detailed review, as the information now points towards bad overclocking headroom due to the heat generated.

My point is if you can't keep the CPU cool, it is bad for the lifespan for the CPU. U would be better off not overclocking it and get the non "k" version of it. (i am looking to replace my Q6600 also)

Need more inform now, plus motherboard price is so high even while voltage regulator are moved to the CPU. So rip-off right now.

 

[duffie]

Is it actually possible to use the internal GPU as a device parallel to a dedicated graphics card for display or will it be switched off automatically?

 

[MacClipper]

btw, if you are running stock or undervolting then Haswell load temps may not concern you.


LinX AVX Stock Run
CPU at factory stock settings

HTH

 

[Elijahonli]

Is it actually possible to use the internal GPU as a device parallel to a dedicated graphics card for display or will it be switched off automatically?

isnt that the virtu feature?

 

[duffie]

isnt that the virtu feature?

Isn't Virtu just for switchable graphics? I don't want to switch, I want to keep the integrated GPU as an additional computing device while running a dedicated card(s) as well.

 

[Middle-C]

Msia CPU prices are ~10% lower at C-zone than our local pricing

if mobo bundle and all 10% cheaper can actually consider crossing the boarder sia

 

[Elijahonli]

Isn't Virtu just for switchable graphics? I don't want to switch, I want to keep the integrated GPU as an additional computing device while running a dedicated card(s) as well.

additional computing then dun think so liao....

if only can use the h264 encoder on the iGPU for video streaming that would be good