chincharito
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tks alot! tot some motor spoil or something...
Hi Jason,
Many thanks for your detailed explanation. My wife and I now understand more about the issues that are happening to the aircon, which was not adequately explained by our former aircon servicemen (which we had a service contract).
We had engaged another aircon service company to look at the condenser/blowers again, and we are pleased that the servicemen had made the same diagnosis as that of Jason as well. The servicemen mentioned the words "High Amp" when they are measuring the condenser with their tools (a clamping ammeter & some instrumentation gauges), with the 2 blowers in Room B and Room C turned on.
May I know what does "High Amp" means?
A few minutes later, the compressor subsequently "cut-off" due to "High Amp", with the 2 blowers still turned on. I can no longer hear any whirring noise from the condenser, so I assume that the compressor has "stopped". The blowers also started to blow normal air rather than cold air.
Is this phenomenon consistent and correct? Will the compressor eventually start running again, without requiring me to turn off/on the blowers? Or do I need to stop/start the blowers, to "kick-start" the compressor?
Our monthly utility bills is $450 (HDB 5 room) with Room B & C aircon turned on once we get back home at night until the next working day.
The servicemen also took a look at the existing piping and remarked that it will be better to re-lay new piping. But due to the design of the house layout, with extensive hidden ceilings, false cornices and requiring to cut across many beams, installation of new piping may prove difficult. The servicemen are unable to give me a quote on the installation with new piping and had asked their boss to come down separately for the quotation.
If I had to use back the old piping, what can I do to minimize any problems down the road? Will flushing the old pipes prior to installation of new condenser/blowers helps? What other measures can I do?
Are the servicemen able to cut off the existing pipes that are easily accessible with new piping and weld/connect to the old pipes that are hidden? At least it will be half old (via inaccessible false ceiling) and half new pipes (via accessible trunking) - but will the welding joints leak? Sorry if it sounds weird, but we are laymen in the pipe laying process.
Finally, what would your recommendations be:
(1) If old piping used (and flushing done) , choose Daikin Inverter System 3 running on R22 gas (Any ideas on the condenser/blower model numbers)?
(2) If old piping used (and flushing done), choose Mitsubishi Electric StarMex Inverter System 3 running on R410a gas. (1x MXY-3A28VA, 3x MSY-GE10VA)
(3) If new piping used, choose Mitsubishi Electric StarMex Inverter System 3 running on R410a gas. (1x MXY-3A28VA, 3x MSY-GE10VA)
Once again, thank you very much for your advice. We are utmost grateful for your help.
Hi Jason,
Many thanks for your replies. It is unfortunate that we are not able to do business with you do to tight scheduling.
The boss came today to re-look at the house layout, and have proposed a new piping route for the 3 bedrooms. Essentially we won't be hacking any false ceilings.
One thing he mentioned is that, our drainage pipes for the 3 blowers are running under the floor, which eventually leads to the drain trap in the kitchen. He has proposed using the same drainage pipes. Is this okay?
We used to have aircon dripping problems (before we did our servicing regularly), and now there is no more such problems.
Is there such a thing as vacumming the drainage pipe (to suck out all the standing water) OR cleaning the drainage pipes (to make sure no blockage) prior to installation? I am not sure of the condition of the drainage pipe as it is run under our floor, I believe they are PVC? Are they usually insulated?
We have opted for the Mitsubishi Electric StarMex Inverter System 3 running on R410a gas. (1x MXY-3A28VA, 3x MSY-GE10VA). Using G23 copper pipes with 1/2'' Armaflex insulation.
Once again, many thanks for your assistance. We are grateful for your help.
To ktee,
Ur sys has 2 individual compressors.
So maybe one of the compressor serving the fancoil which is not cold is faulty.
Either compressor down or gas shortage.
Have to get a technician to asses first to c if its worthwhile to repair.
Hi Jason
Thanks for the fast reply.
Is it possible for you to help me? Pls PM for details. Thanks.![]()
Hi my aircon unit Sharp AY-XPM9FR is blowing air from only one side of the airvent output.
Any idea what is busted inside and the avg pricing of repair?
Thanks Jason.
Terumo, pls PM me for the details. It is very hot n very difficult to sleep at nite. Hope to do it by this weekend. Thanks.![]()
Thanks to Terumo for his reply
"To Chincharito, most likely ur aircon is dirty, just require servicing.
Maybe general or chemical have to check."
I got a company from groupon to come down today, he looked at my unit and said it is very hard and complicated unit to remove and do proper servicing. He had some trouble removing the casing as the screw is hidden behind the vents. Then after opening the casing, he said that there is this "black wire coil" inside the unit which means he cannot properly clean the inside. So he told me he cannot service and will refund me which was fine.
I told him about the one sided air vent problem and he concluded that needs to do chemical cleaning...he said need to remove whole unit from wall to do it. Then will mount back again.
He quoted $150.
My query
1. Is my unit really so hard to clean?
2. Chemical wash need to remove WHOLE unit down from wall?!
3. $150 fair?
Thanks to the aircon gurus out there in advance!
Looking to install air con in my flat. Any recommendations?
To nadameyoko,
Most likely ur aircon compressor shorted.
Might need to replace new aircon but maybe u can get a technician to check first.