Manchester United - Theatre of Dreams - - Part 11

[niddel]

How about giggs?

Shouldn't be starting games. Purely impact player at his age. But still better than young.

 

[cracker]

How about giggs?

Yoga Giggs lasted the whole 90 min !!
but other than making a few passes,, I didnt see much from him..
aiyaa he has earned his due..... he should be sitting beside Phil Nevile in track suit.

 

[Asakura]

Stats show that Mr "fitting and better than kagawa" young had 1 cross out of 22 reach it's target. If he starts next match really must flip table. Anyone but Young will do. ABY

who knows, maybe Moyes previous interview was directing at players like Young.
saying he feel they are behkan. need to buy more first team players.

 

[niddel]

i make 1 pass all game, and completed pass. i get 100% stats.

Marouane Fellaini bettered Yaya Toure in the Manchester derby - stats revealed | Mail Online

Read this. Stats dun show the full picture.

That said, doesn't change for Young. ABY.

 

[Asakura]

Yoga Giggs lasted the whole 90 min !!
but other than making a few passes,, I didnt see much from him..
aiyaa he has earned his due..... he should be sitting beside Phil Nevile in track suit.

even with that, you try compile Young's game up till now, you also hard to match to Giggs for last night.

 

[Asakura]

Marouane Fellaini bettered Yaya Toure in the Manchester derby - stats revealed | Mail Online

Read this. Stats dun show the full picture.

that's what i meant isn't it.

 

[chengsun]

Not that I want to bring up stats, but yesterday saw some stats from someone here, how many games, how many losses, how many win only, just want to rebut that.

One can also say that, EPL (or division 1) was not so competitive last time, there were very little foreign players there last time, and there were even less foreign managers there last time. A 5 figures transfer can be the record signing already. Back then there was no sugar daddy teams as well.

So? 1 moment, the team full of jokers is suck to the max, yet another moment, it is a CHAMPION WINNING team that DM inherited? Ron Atkinson consecutively made it to top 4 , but SAF, after Ron, only made it to 11th in his 1st season, so SAF suck big time isn't it? Since SAF inherited a "top 4" squad. SAF made it to 2nd in his 2nd season, but only 11th and 13th in his 3rd and 4th season, so isn't it worst? It is his own squad which gotten 2nd yet he only managed below 10th results in the following seasons. So does it make SAF a suck manager? Can we actually compare like that?

When one is already biased against someone, even the black spot on the dog of the person keeps will be an eyesore.

Just saying.

 

[demongod]

fans demand chicharito, nani and kagawa to start games and we won 1-0 against Liverpool's strongest first 11, maybe the fans does know better

Shinji Kagawa started his second match of the season but did not make an infallible claim for his place. Everybody is aware of Kagawa’s quality -- seen briefly in this match with a quick turn, burst and shot in the 63rd minute -- but his form is rusty at best. Perhaps Moyes should be allowed to manage the team, rather than picking players based on fan demand.

 

[pale]

How about giggs?

Can still play a part,it's a long season after all. Just don't start him every game.
His performance will drop one. Start him every few games in midfield.

Our Mid field should rotate among Carrick/Felliani/Ceverley/Anderson/Giggs/Jones


I did mentioned in older posts that Giggs can play that Holding midfield role.
He's got the eye for that pass, enough pace to track, can tackle (I love how he can slide tackle and get up so fast).

Just use him sparingly.

 

[pale]

fans demand chicharito, nani and kagawa to start games and we won 1-0 against Liverpool's strongest first 11, maybe the fans does know better

DM also suay like ****. He obviously had a game plan for city. Suay suay the Holy trinity decided to chut pattern. If only 1 of the 3 under perform, maybe still can get away with it. But when all 3 mess up. Well, you know the rest of the story.

 

[spykid]

To be honest, i simply can't understand why people will always take the name of Sir Alex and compare with David Moyes on the individual things they each would or wouldn't do. Fergie's a living legend and he's gone but make no mistake, he has had his flaws too. Fergie this Fergie that, he wouldn't do this he wouldn't do that. What's the point of that now anyway if we don't move on without the great man? Moyes is now his own man and you need to see him doing his thing without using Sir Alex as a yardstick

I don't moan about DM's handling of the media or his tactics or his training methods because i ain't no football manager myself. I can only moan about the performances of the players cos that's the only thing i can see on the telly week in week out. So Ashley Young is my favourite subject at the moment. Nani/Kagawa/Hernandez has certainly staked a claim in retaining their places for the WBA game, and Moyes said they have given him food for thought in his team selections in future which is encouraging to hear.

And i have to say DM has handled Wayne very well since he took over, probably he used to manage him before has played a major part in that. And now he has got him rejuvenated and playing brilliantly since 2009/10. It's been a bloody long time

 

[demongod]

personally i really dislike our negative tactics in recent years against our direct rivals, its like we are so fearful that we try and pack our midfield and wait for them to attack us, then concede a goal and have to try and chase the game back.

DM also suay like ****. He obviously had a game plan for city. Suay suay the Holy trinity decided to chut pattern. If only 1 of the 3 under perform, maybe still can get away with it. But when all 3 mess up. Well, you know the rest of the story.

 

[Swordsman]

personally i really dislike our negative tactics in recent years against our direct rivals, its like we are so fearful that we try and pack our midfield and wait for them to attack us, then concede a goal and have to try and chase the game back.

It has been quite many season since SAF reign. Can't rem the last time we go gung-Ho against strong team and pin them in their own box...

 

[Asakura]

Nani/Kagawa/Hernandez has certainly staked a claim in retaining their places for the WBA game, and Moyes said they have given him food for thought in his team selections in future which is encouraging to hear.

And i have to say DM has handled Wayne very well since he took over, probably he used to manage him before has played a major part in that. And now he has got him rejuvenated and playing brilliantly since 2009/10. It's been a bloody long time

many fail to read his words in his interviews about the first part.

somebody said can't think of anything Moyes have done right so far? i say Rooney is what he has done right.
usually Rooney bounce back slowly game by game. but this time its by a leap of miles.

too bz criticizing him i guess.

 

[ash_flames]

To be honest, i simply can't understand why people will always take the name of Sir Alex and compare with David Moyes on the individual things they each would or wouldn't do. Fergie's a living legend and he's gone but make no mistake, he has had his flaws too. Fergie this Fergie that, he wouldn't do this he wouldn't do that. What's the point of that now anyway if we don't move on without the great man? Moyes is now his own man and you need to see him doing his thing without using Sir Alex as a yardstick

I don't moan about DM's handling of the media or his tactics or his training methods because i ain't no football manager myself. I can only moan about the performances of the players cos that's the only thing i can see on the telly week in week out. So Ashley Young is my favourite subject at the moment. Nani/Kagawa/Hernandez has certainly staked a claim in retaining their places for the WBA game, and Moyes said they have given him food for thought in his team selections in future which is encouraging to hear.

And i have to say DM has handled Wayne very well since he took over, probably he used to manage him before has played a major part in that. And now he has got him rejuvenated and playing brilliantly since 2009/10. It's been a bloody long time

Agree with you! Fergie is gone. Period. So no point comparing with our past season/history. New Chapter le Folks. And stop whining we should have gotten Pep/JM or Guus (seriously???). Pep replace a mgr that defeated the mighty barca 7-0 home and away. SAF +Bobby Charlton does not trust JM. and Guus Hiddink???OMG.

Good thing now is Nani/Kagawa/Hernandez are providing alternatives to Young/valenica/welbeck.

So please DM, dont start with the 3 mouseketeers for our next match. Or else Hardwarezone fans will be start mocking you again...

 

[pale]

personally i really dislike our negative tactics in recent years against our direct rivals, its like we are so fearful that we try and pack our midfield and wait for them to attack us, then concede a goal and have to try and chase the game back.

It has been quite many season since SAF reign. Can't rem the last time we go gung-Ho against strong team and pin them in their own box...

The fear of losing. I rem Gary Neville commenting that this season the goals seems like drying up in the EPL coz teams are focusing on not losing rather then going on the attack.

And yes, personally I hate it. I love to see a team go in guns blazing and if you lose. Well, it certainly isn't due to a lack of effort. The only time I concur with defensive play when you are leading by 1 or 2 goals and there's 10 mins left.

 

[demongod]

in the first place i doubt the club would have sold him when they cant even get a decent transfer in to replace him

many fail to read his words in his interviews about the first part.

somebody said can't think of anything Moyes have done right so far? i say Rooney is what he has done right.
usually Rooney bounce back slowly game by game. but this time its by a leap of miles.

too bz criticizing him i guess.

 

[spykid]

DDG - There when needed

Rafael - Will be the world's best rightback when he turns 25
Evans - Caught the Rio's syndrome. Jonny, you simply don't allow your fellow partner to defend everything as when and you feel like it
Smalling - Was simply flawlessly dealing with the scouse bast@rds all on his own in the first half
Buttner - Some pointless stepovers and which by then half the opposition team have already surrounded him

Nani - I think he has started to use the ball more sensibly. Wild shots he may still take, but i rather see that than watching Ashley Young shifts the ball cluelessly to himself or to no one and then puts it out of play
Jones - Surprisingly good. Still looked like he always has the capability to injure himself when he goes sliding in for tackles
Giggs - At almost 40 years of age, he still runs and plays at a pace quicker than Steven Gerrard LoL
Kagawa - He caresses the ball like Scholes, obviously not to that level but yeah, this little Asian can play ball

Hernandez - I genuinely love this guy
Rooney - If he keeps putting in those free-kicks on target and into the net, sooner than later, there may be a movie named 'Bend it like Rooney'

Subs - I forgot who were the subs. So never mind

Daniel Sturridge - A worse performance i've ever seen apart from Ashley Young at the weekend. Pardon me from mentioning Ashley Young again

Jordan Henderson - As above, except it's the worst

 

[Asakura]

look. i wasn't talking about selling him.
the player could have also made things go ugly by publicly declare his determination to leave.
whether sell or not is another matter.

but this guy kept it past him, Moyes held talks with him(as claimed), and now we see him all smiles.

 

[Asakura]

Daniel Sturridge - A worse performance i've ever seen apart from Ashley Young at the weekend. Pardon me from mentioning Ashley Young again

this guy is just same, or sometimes slightly better than jellybeck.