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Few retard questions here for Shiny:

1. Essentially how does the Grexit affect other markets around the world such as the STI? Why are people so afraid of it?


2. The lot size went from 1000 to 100 earlier this year for the SGX. Why is there a lot size in the first place? If i'm not wrong this is unique to Singapore right?
 

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Few retard questions here for Shiny:

1. Essentially how does the Grexit affect other markets around the world such as the STI? Why are people so afraid of it?

It doesn't really. German companies should be slightly affected. US companies shouldn't be (so the reason for the 2% swoon in the SPX today is baffling to me). Singaporean markets definitely won't be - I mean, how much business does DBS or Singtel do with Greece?

2. The lot size went from 1000 to 100 earlier this year for the SGX. Why is there a lot size in the first place? If i'm not wrong this is unique to Singapore right?

Lot sizes are a relic of the old days of stock trading, when stocks were traded by loud fat blokes with sweaty armpits instead of by quiet, slimline computers that almost never have sweaty armpits. The minimum lot size was imposed because it was just too darn hard for the fat men to deal with orders of 37 shares, 69 shares, 168 shares, 88,888 shares, whatever.

But for a computer, an order of 88 shares is just as easy as an order of 100 shares. So, these days, most exchanges don't impose a minimum lot size. The NYSE mostly doesn't (though orders less than 100 shares don't have to be posted to an exchange); I don't think the LSE ever has.

The SGX does.

They're in shrinking company, though. Canada and Mexico have a similar idea of board lots and a separate odd-lot market. Indonesia, Malaysia have exact round lots. Hong Kong and Tokyo have their own insane rules - lot sizes in HK can be as high as five million, which is either a sign you should reverse-split your stock (lookin' at you, CCT Land Holdings 0261.HK, trading 4 HK cents with an 80k lot size) or an ingenious way to inhibit trading in your company's shares (BEP, 2998.HK, where the share price is $2 but it trades in 100k-share blocks)

Update: I'm not sure that "five million" number is true - BNY Convergex says lot sizes range from 400 to 5 million, but the HKSE says it's 30 to 100,000, and I think the HKSE knows their own market best.

Most other exchanges have gone to a straight-up 1-lot system, because there's just no good reason to restrict lot size any more now that the computers have taken over.
 
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Any USD denoted Europe ETF that is domiciled in UK?
VEUR? VGK?


Not from Vanguard/ DB / ishares, which are the major low-cost ETF providers for LSE ETFs.

XESC - dividend reinvesting, TER 0.09%, solid blue chip stocks. Index yield is less than 3% (according to latest factsheet) due to the silly market run-up (as mentioned, despite Greece, the European market is still higher today that it was earlier this year). Euro Stoxx 50 yield >3% is my preference.

Thanks to SCB, can always start now with small allocation. Unlike one of those no action, talk big and repeatedly ask 5 cent, 10 cent questions, but paralysed during crisis. I note wahkao has gone quiet, but replaced by other much ruder trolls. Makes me miss wahkao, who at least was polite :)
 

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Hi Shiny, something that is closer to your heart. What are your thoughts on investing into Oz financials(fx/equities/bonds) on a 3-5 years horizon? There seem to be some bottom pickers on AUD at this level, do u see more downside?
 

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Not from Vanguard/ DB / ishares, which are the major low-cost ETF providers for LSE ETFs.

XESC - dividend reinvesting, TER 0.09%, solid blue chip stocks. Index yield is less than 3% (according to latest factsheet) due to the silly market run-up (as mentioned, despite Greece, the European market is still higher today that it was earlier this year). Euro Stoxx 50 yield >3% is my preference.

Thanks to SCB, can always start now with small allocation. Unlike one of those no action, talk big and repeatedly ask 5 cent, 10 cent questions, but paralysed during crisis. I note wahkao has gone quiet, but replaced by other much ruder trolls. Makes me miss wahkao, who at least was polite :)

Question: XESC is listed on SGX (IH0).
Like to understand pro/cons of going with either?
http://etf.deutscheawm.com/GBR/ENG/...380865021/B4STTG5/Euro-Stoxx-50-UCITS-ETF-(DR)

LSE: XESC (GBX)
SGX: IH0 (USD)
I notice spread on the IH0 is about 0.11.
Not sure about XESC cos' I can't get it on POEMS.
 

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Advice on what to do moving forward?

Dear Shiny,

I would like to seek your advice on what are some of the things I can do moving forward if I would like to use your index investing method of 110 - age rule

Some background info:

I am 40 years old and started "investing" about 10 years ago in equities. To cut the long story short, I have about 100k worth (if I were to sell all of them now) of equities in various counters. On paper, I am still having a paper loss of about 10k but because of some of the counters that gives good dividend, each year I have about 5k of dividend. I also have about 70k of cash sitting in bank (waiting for crash!) and I do not own any bond funds.

Question: What would you suggest that I do if I want to follow the 110-age rule? Specifically, would you suggest that I:

1. Bite the bullet. Sell all my counters and buy STI ETF and ABF bond fund?
2. Retain counters that gives good dividend, sell counters that is currently at loss and put the money into STI ETF?
3. Do nothing for equities counters, use spare cash into ABF bound funds?
4. Other ways that you think is feasible?

Thank you very much!
 
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Dear Shiny,

I would like to seek your advice on what are some of the things I can do moving forward if I would like to use your index investing method of 110 - age rule

Some background info:

I am 40 years old and started "investing" about 10 years ago in equities. To cut the long story short, I have about 100k worth (if I were to sell all of them now) of equities in various counters. On paper, I am still having a paper loss of about 10k but because of some of the counters that gives good dividend, each year I have about 5k of dividend. I also have about 70k of cash sitting in bank (waiting for crash!) and I do not own any bond funds.

Question: What would you suggest that I do if I want to follow the 110-age rule? Specifically, would you suggest that I:

1. Bite the bullet. Sell all my counters and buy STI ETF and ABF bond fund?
2. Retain counters that gives good dividend, sell counters that is currently at loss and put the money into STI ETF?
3. Do nothing for equities counters, use spare cash into ABF bound funds?
4. Other ways that you think is feasible?

Thank you very much!

Before he wakes up, maybe I'll share what I did. I was in a similar situation, except I don't have so much money :). I sold off stocks that I felt were higher risk and kept stocks that I felt will be able to maintain their price and continue paying the same or increasing dividends in the coming years.
 

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Always sell off bad counters, dividends or not. Cutting loss early is key to prevent bigger losses down the road. Dividends can sometimes be a trap, look at Seadrill or Line... High dividends but in a troubled industry, ends up cutting all or huge part of their dividends.

Unless you see the counter having a superb management that can turn things around or any other catalyst of course.
 

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Dear Shiny,

I would like to seek your advice on what are some of the things I can do moving forward if I would like to use your index investing method of 110 - age rule

Some background info:

I am 40 years old and started "investing" about 10 years ago in equities. To cut the long story short, I have about 100k worth (if I were to sell all of them now) of equities in various counters. On paper, I am still having a paper loss of about 10k but because of some of the counters that gives good dividend, each year I have about 5k of dividend. I also have about 70k of cash sitting in bank (waiting for crash!) and I do not own any bond funds.

Question: What would you suggest that I do if I want to follow the 110-age rule? Specifically, would you suggest that I:

1. Bite the bullet. Sell all my counters and buy STI ETF and ABF bond fund?
2. Retain counters that gives good dividend, sell counters that is currently at loss and put the money into STI ETF?
3. Do nothing for equities counters, use spare cash into ABF bound funds?
4. Other ways that you think is feasible?

Thank you very much!

Your situation sounded a bit like mine 2 years ago when I overhauled my portfolio.

Firstly, determine what type of investor you are. FYI I am a dividend and index investor with passive income in mind, and a believer of diversification based on a portfolio of asset classes. What I did was I sold away all the pennies and not so healthy ones (IMO) away (good thing they were at a profitable position). Next, using what you have learnt in your investments via books and/or experience, select counters or ETFs that will aid you in your final aim. I took around 6 months before arriving at my current portfolio, which officially began at 2014. ATM I am still stuck with a suspended counter from my "old days".
 

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I want to extend my thanks to Shiny Things and numerous other contributors for being so helpful and patient with the rest of us. I have learnt a lot from this thread and what is being shared certainly resonates on a deep level. My investing experience so far is that about once every two years I get excited about 'getting my act together' and go speak to financial consultants, read internet forums and then maybe 4 days later I get so overwhelmed and then just procrastinate putting anything into action. Repeat this sad situation once a year and that's my experience over the last 10 years of my life. At least one thing I've learnt about myself is that if investing gets too complex, I won't do it.

Anyway, I am now determined to finally get started! I've already put in the application for a SCB online trading account and will open an Interactive Broker account shortly.

I actually have a number of questions about actual implementation of the 110-age rule based on own circumstances.

1. I am also a late starter at 40, with approximately S$450-S$500k in cash to invest and perhaps S$5k-8k/month to DCA into my retirement fund. I know I'm nowhere near private banking material, but based on my quantum should I still implement my retirement plan with SCB for SGX ETFs and Interactive Brokers for my LSE holdings? Or is there a potentially more efficient way of doing things? I actually already have a a number of broker accounts (Philips and UOBKH) which I can use.

2. Along the same lines, I am probably more comfortable with moving my upfront cash into my retirement fund in stages rather than all at once. Again, given the lump sum quantum, does the 'drip it in in three equal chunks over three months' guideline apply, or are there other considerations?

3. I am still trying to figure out how to categorise my CPF savings into the bond portion of my savings. If, based on my existing OA+SA balance of about S$130k, I have a total pool of S$630k to invest. Should I be achieving my balance at S$440k of cash in stocks, S$190 of cash in a bond, and just hold my CPF 'as is'? (NB: My OA doesn't really increase that much as contributions pays down my home mortgage). If I treat CPF savings as bonds as described, does this mean I don't really have 'dry powder' to move into equities when prices drop, since its not really cash (and I assuming I don't have real cash on hand to rebalance) or do I implement this rebalancing by using CPF to buy ES3?

4. Given that Medisave is for medical costs (I may be wrong), can I just ignore any balances I have there for retirement purposes?

5. How do people treat real estate investments (excluding primary residence) in their retirement plan? As many Singaporeans have real estate investments which make up a large chunk of their net worth, I am curious why this isn't given more attention in this thread.

6. I have contributed to SRS to reduce tax and presently have about S$38k worth of ES3 in my SRS account. I intend to keep contributing the maximum amount every year. For simplicity, should I just add this to the retirement pool fund or is there any reason why I should keep this separate?

7. I have approximately GBP60k held in a UK bank (my savings when I worked in London for a while). Should I buy some GBP denominated fund or should I change it into SGD? Any benefit to holding GBP for diversification, or should I change it now back into my home currency? Is this basically the same situation as holding VRWD/IWDA and having USDSGD exchange risk when it comes time to retire?

Thanks in advance!
 

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7. I have approximately GBP60k held in a UK bank (my savings when I worked in London for a while). Should I buy some GBP denominated fund or should I change it into SGD? Any benefit to holding GBP for diversification, or should I change it now back into my home currency? Is this basically the same situation as holding VRWD/IWDA and having USDSGD exchange risk when it comes time to retire?

I think there's withholding tax on your UK bank interest (20%?). Its useful to have a UK bank account, mine comes with Visa debit so I use it for GBP transactions because SG credit cards hit you for at least 5% forex commission.

But you should move most of your GBP offshore by buying GBP denominated ETF through SCB. (eg: UK bond ETF)
 

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I want to extend my thanks to Shiny Things and numerous other contributors for being so helpful and patient with the rest of us. I have learnt a lot from this thread and what is being shared certainly resonates on a deep level. My investing experience so far is that about once every two years I get excited about 'getting my act together' and go speak to financial consultants, read internet forums and then maybe 4 days later I get so overwhelmed and then just procrastinate putting anything into action. Repeat this sad situation once a year and that's my experience over the last 10 years of my life. At least one thing I've learnt about myself is that if investing gets too complex, I won't do it.

Hey, nothing wrong with that - everything has to start somewhere! And we'll get you sorted out; you're on the right track already.

1. I am also a late starter at 40, with approximately S$450-S$500k in cash to invest and perhaps S$5k-8k/month to DCA into my retirement fund. I know I'm nowhere near private banking material, but based on my quantum should I still implement my retirement plan with SCB for SGX ETFs and Interactive Brokers for my LSE holdings? Or is there a potentially more efficient way of doing things? I actually already have a a number of broker accounts (Philips and UOBKH) which I can use.

Nope, you're doing it exactly the right way. Phillips and UOBKH and all the other brokers are far more expensive than Interactive Brokers for global stocks; and Stanchart is generally the cheapest way to do Singaporean stocks.

I will say, though, that you might be able to negotiate a better rate than Stanchart on your Singaporean stocks because you've got a lot of volume to do. Try calling up Phillip or UOBKH and telling them "I've got $300k to invest with you in a few big clips, and I want a better brokerage rate". If either of them can beat 0.18%, then it might be worth using them instead of Stanchart.

2. Along the same lines, I am probably more comfortable with moving my upfront cash into my retirement fund in stages rather than all at once. Again, given the lump sum quantum, does the 'drip it in in three equal chunks over three months' guideline apply, or are there other considerations?

Sure, that's totally OK. And 3-4 months is a good time to spread it out over, if you want to spread it out; you don't want to take too long, otherwise you'll have cash sitting on the sidelines doing nothing for ages.

3. I am still trying to figure out how to categorise my CPF savings into the bond portion of my savings. If, based on my existing OA+SA balance of about S$130k, I have a total pool of S$630k to invest. Should I be achieving my balance at S$440k of cash in stocks, S$190 of cash in a bond, and just hold my CPF 'as is'? (NB: My OA doesn't really increase that much as contributions pays down my home mortgage).

If I treat CPF savings as bonds as described, does this mean I don't really have 'dry powder' to move into equities when prices drop, since its not really cash (and I assuming I don't have real cash on hand to rebalance) or do I implement this rebalancing by using CPF to buy ES3?

I'll come back to this one later; need to have a bit of a think about this. It's a good question!

4. Given that Medisave is for medical costs (I may be wrong), can I just ignore any balances I have there for retirement purposes?

I don't actually know the answer to this one. I'd say if it can only be used for medical purposes, I'd ignore it for the purposes of retirement savings; does anyone know the rules about tapping Medisave?

5. How do people treat real estate investments (excluding primary residence) in their retirement plan? As many Singaporeans have real estate investments which make up a large chunk of their net worth, I am curious why this isn't given more attention in this thread.

Honestly it's because I think real estate is usually kind of a dumb investment, so I tend to ignore it. I've lived in Australia, Singapore, and California in my life, and all three of those places currently have stupidly-expensive real estate, so I've just decided to ignore it entirely for now. REITs can be useful as part of a balanced portfolio, but they sit in an awkward middle ground between stocks and bonds; I don't own any at the moment, but I might think about them in the future.

6. I have contributed to SRS to reduce tax and presently have about S$38k worth of ES3 in my SRS account. I intend to keep contributing the maximum amount every year. For simplicity, should I just add this to the retirement pool fund or is there any reason why I should keep this separate?
Yep, just treat it as part of your retirement pool, even though it's held in a different account.

7. I have approximately GBP60k held in a UK bank (my savings when I worked in London for a while). Should I buy some GBP denominated fund or should I change it into SGD? Any benefit to holding GBP for diversification, or should I change it now back into my home currency? Is this basically the same situation as holding VRWD/IWDA and having USDSGD exchange risk when it comes time to retire?

It's pretty much exactly the same situation, yeah.

I'd convert it back to SGD right now - put it through your Interactive Brokers account to get the best rate - and use it to fund your ES3 purchases. GBPSGD's at a five-year high, so now's a great time to convert it back.

Thanks in advance!

1. Bite the bullet. Sell all my counters and buy STI ETF and ABF bond fund?
2. Retain counters that gives good dividend, sell counters that is currently at loss and put the money into STI ETF?
3. Do nothing for equities counters, use spare cash into ABF bound funds?
4. Other ways that you think is feasible?

I'm a bit of a purist when it comes to asset allocation, but I'd go for #1.

The thing is that your stocks that are throwing off good dividends aren't necessarily good stocks - there are plenty of dismal penny-stock murderholes on the SGX that are still paying dividends.

There have been some good suggestions upthread about selling off most of your stocks except the good ones; I'd say that if you really want to hang onto some of your positions, it's OK to keep the blue-chips for now, and sell off all the miserable pennies and replace them with the STI ETF and the ABF bond fund. At your age, you want to start dialing down your risk appetite, so you definitely don't want to have money in penny-stock punts.

So let's say - start with selling off the stocks that are just bad. The penny-stocks; the losers; the ones that aren't in the STI already. Move that money into the ABF bond fund to bring you up to your allocation target, and put the excess into the STI ETF. There you go - you've got your nice safe bond allocation, and you've got your allocation to stocks, and you haven't had to sell any of the stocks you really like.
 

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Hi Shiny,
I just finished gone fishin portfolio book, found so much similarities with the
discussion here. What do you think about the portfolio?

Vanguard Total Stock Market Index (VTSMX) 15%
Vanguard Small Cap Index (NAESX) 15%
Vanguard Emerging Markets Index (VEIEX) 10%
Vanguard European Index (VEURX) 10%
Vanguard Pacific Index (VPACX) 10%
Vanguard High Yield Corporate (VWEHX) 10%
Vanguard Short Term Investment Grade Bonds (VFSTX) 10%
Vanguard Inflation Protected Securities (VIPSX) 10%
Vanguard REIT Index (VGSIX) 5%
Vanguard Precious Metals and Mining (VGPMX) 5%

Summary:
http://www.investmentu.com/content/detail/gone-fishin-index-fund-portfolio

Any suggestion on how to adjust it for Singapore people? Is it true if I buy ETF on LSE I will be charged with 0.5% stamp duty?

Sorry, I just started on this, spent 4-5 hours to do some research, and I'm not sure if I'm doing it correctly:
  • I'm thinking to find an equivalent VTSMX, NAESX, VEIEX, VEURX and VPACX with the following:
    VTSMX with IWDA
    VEURX with CSX5 (but it's in EUR, and I'm using SCB, people said the spread is wide for SCB)
    VEIEX - not sure about this, I think I will be getting VWO, unless there is any better option
    NAESX - not sure if there is any better option, maybe stick to NAESX
    VPACX - not sure if there is any better option, IDAP? TER is higher for IDAP (0.26% vs 0.59%), but it's in LSE (no 30% dividend witholding tax), IDAP dividend yield also higher (2.5% vs 5%), IDAP is more heavy towards oz while VPACX is towards Japan. Can someone give me suggestion for this?

  • The bond component (VWEHX and VFSTX) change with QL3 and A35
  • I'm not sure what to do about VIPSX, never heard any discussion here. Any suggestion?
  • VGSIX seems like highly taxable also, not sure what to change to, should I change to SG REIT instead? I have some existing SG REIT in my current portfolio
  • VGPMX also no idea at the moment, do you have any suggestion?
  • Any idea on how to incorporate STI ETF in the portfolio? Should I reduce the Total Stock + Small Cap to 10% each and add STI ETF 10%? Should I replace VGSIX, VGPMX and VIPSX also with STI ETF?
 

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Hi all,

I did a quick search but could not get a concrete answer out from this.

When it says IWDA dividend reinvested, what is the sign that the dividend has come in? There is no date that i can see after doing searches.

Of course maybe the number of shares increases? that's probably it?
 
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Since I wrote that last night, the ECB has said they're not increasing Greece's ELA lines today, and Yanis WhatTheFakis has told a BBC reporter that they're considering either capital controls or a bank holiday - upshot, Greek banks probably will not open on Monday morning. If this happens, though: don't panic. It doesn't affect you.


A few pieces of perspective:
* The massive tumble in the Shanghai stock market over the last few weeks has wiped out probably a trillion dollars in wealth - close to two trillion if you include Shenzhen. The entire market cap of the Greek stock market is somewhere less than fifty billion dollars. But you don't hear twenty times as much screaming about Shanghai/Shenzhen as you do about Athens.
* Greece has been a pretty much nonstop economic disaster for at least the last two hundred years, if not more. Josh Brown has an absolutely golden quote in his "don't panic" Greece piece right here:


So, guys: don't panic about Greece. Europe will survive even if Greece tumbles out of the eurozone and starts printing drachma notes. (I quite like "Formerly Known as Drachma" for the new currency name - or FKD.) If European stock markets melt down on Monday morning, or Tuesday morning, or Wednesday morning, it's going to be a buying opportunity, not a selling opportunity.

Hi Shiny, sorry for bringing up a old post amongst the recent portfolio reallocation posts.

I realised that you have quite a wonderful macro perspective with regards to economic events happening in the world - just wondering, how did you develop that macro perspective? I realised that i'll probably be needing to know all these sorta things whilst at the job so thank you again for letting me tap into your brain!
 
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Hi Shiny,
I just finished gone fishin portfolio book, found so much similarities with the
discussion here. What do you think about the portfolio?

Vanguard Total Stock Market Index (VTSMX) 15%
Vanguard Small Cap Index (NAESX) 15%
Vanguard Emerging Markets Index (VEIEX) 10%
Vanguard European Index (VEURX) 10%
Vanguard Pacific Index (VPACX) 10%
Vanguard High Yield Corporate (VWEHX) 10%
Vanguard Short Term Investment Grade Bonds (VFSTX) 10%
Vanguard Inflation Protected Securities (VIPSX) 10%
Vanguard REIT Index (VGSIX) 5%
Vanguard Precious Metals and Mining (VGPMX) 5%

Summary:
http://www.investmentu.com/content/detail/gone-fishin-index-fund-portfolio

Any suggestion on how to adjust it for Singapore people? Is it true if I buy ETF on LSE I will be charged with 0.5% stamp duty?

Sorry, I just started on this, spent 4-5 hours to do some research, and I'm not sure if I'm doing it correctly:
  • I'm thinking to find an equivalent VTSMX, NAESX, VEIEX, VEURX and VPACX with the following:
    VTSMX with IWDA
    VEURX with CSX5 (but it's in EUR, and I'm using SCB, people said the spread is wide for SCB)
    VEIEX - not sure about this, I think I will be getting VWO, unless there is any better option
    NAESX - not sure if there is any better option, maybe stick to NAESX
    VPACX - not sure if there is any better option, IDAP? TER is higher for IDAP (0.26% vs 0.59%), but it's in LSE (no 30% dividend witholding tax), IDAP dividend yield also higher (2.5% vs 5%), IDAP is more heavy towards oz while VPACX is towards Japan. Can someone give me suggestion for this?

  • The bond component (VWEHX and VFSTX) change with QL3 and A35
  • I'm not sure what to do about VIPSX, never heard any discussion here. Any suggestion?
  • VGSIX seems like highly taxable also, not sure what to change to, should I change to SG REIT instead? I have some existing SG REIT in my current portfolio
  • VGPMX also no idea at the moment, do you have any suggestion?
  • Any idea on how to incorporate STI ETF in the portfolio? Should I reduce the Total Stock + Small Cap to 10% each and add STI ETF 10%? Should I replace VGSIX, VGPMX and VIPSX also with STI ETF?
There is no more stamp duties.

That's a pretty cool portfolio. But as someone would say, theres too much slices.

I remember rick uses a blue berry pie as an illustration. It goes like this: "you got a blue berry pie, the more you slice it, the more blue berry is gonna be left on the plate."
 
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Hi all,

I did a quick search but could not get a concrete answer out from this.

When it says IWDA dividend reinvested, what is the sign that the dividend has come in? There is no date that i can see after doing searches.

Of course maybe the number of shares increases? that's probably it?

Let's see if I can explain it in a simple way. The etf holds mainly cash and shares. Both are measured in the NAV of the fund. When shares of the company pays dividend after ex-div, your nav of the shares falls but will be offset by cash which the fund will receive. Net net it's a zero impact to the nav of the fund.

When the fund reinvest the dividend , nav is reduced by the cash that's being used. but the fund bought more shares which increase the fund nav. So net net also zero impact to the fund's nav.

Since the fund doesn't pays dividend. You can't find any dividend info except looking into the financial statement. I think it's called operating income.

Edit: sorry, forgot to mention this part. So as the fund reinvest to buy more shares, the fund nav grows with the share growth. In contrast to a fund that pays dividend, the growth of an accumulated fund is higher since accumulated funds holds more company shares than dividend funds.
 
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Question: XESC is listed on SGX (IH0).
Like to understand pro/cons of going with either?
http://etf.deutscheawm.com/GBR/ENG/...380865021/B4STTG5/Euro-Stoxx-50-UCITS-ETF-(DR)

LSE: XESC (GBX)
SGX: IH0 (USD)
I notice spread on the IH0 is about 0.11.
Not sure about XESC cos' I can't get it on POEMS.

When you're talking about spread, think in percentage of price terms, not just "11 cents wide". 11 cents when the stock is trading at $111 is a bit wide but not bad; 11 cents when the stock is trading at $0.11 is untradeable.

Anyway - gun to me head I wouldn't use either of them. The LSE-listed one is in GBP, so the spread's going to be too wide on Stanchart and on IBKR you don't need this ETF because you can trade the futures. The SGX one... 11 cents on a $50 stock is kind of wide, and that's partly because the underlying cash market is closed while the ETF is open. I'd probably avoid this one.

If you actually want specific Eurostoxx 50 exposure for some specific reason, just use the futures. If you need to do it through an ETF, then I'd go for DXET on Xetra, but this is getting a bit niche; normal investors are far better off buying a nice broad-based global equity ETF like IWDA.

Hi Shiny, something that is closer to your heart. What are your thoughts on investing into Oz financials(fx/equities/bonds) on a 3-5 years horizon? There seem to be some bottom pickers on AUD at this level, do u see more downside?

Yeah, I think the AUD's got a bit more downside, especially once the Fed starts hiking, because the RBA is still in a rate-cutting cycle; it won't be long before 10yr Aussie govvy bonds start yielding less than 10yr Treasuries and then it's all over red rover. I'm going to start shipping some assets back home around the 70-cent mark; I've thought about selling 70-cent puts to pick up some premium.

I generally like Aussie equities, though, especially the banks - big, boring, dividend payers with a reasonably solid mortgage book. Aussie bonds are decent too, though they're basically a bet on FX these days, and that's not a bet you really want to take.
 
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