Manchester United - Theatre of Dreams - - Part 22

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very debatable. while those are top players you listed, in reality, real or barca were not really after them.

true, aguero was linked with real on and off, but they have never really submitted a bid for him. and i think most will agree that he will go if offered.

its interesting because we wont see yaya/di maria/sanchez here if they were not discared by their teams - i doubt even if city offered to double messi's pay, he would consider joining them. that said, city has rather openly been offering ronaldo 1.5X more than what real is paying him, hes not responding either.

in my opinion, spain is definitely a better footballing country - doesnt help that they have winter breaks, and they dont play saturday lunch time. la liga kick offs are usually 10pm at night.

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agree wholeheartedly ... but I am not sure if the kick off time is also a deciding factor..

Most of those who came here Barcelona or RM...are either surplus or CMI for whatever reasons

usually when Barcelona or RM made an inquiry ....the players's eyes will open wide...and they will usually pack their bags and go....

Ronaldinho was on the verge of deciding which pen to use to sign the contract with MU when Barcelona asked...do u wanna come over ?

With a good paycheque and exposure due to the marketing power of the English League... most players will treat the English league as a stepping stone...or a good place to earn a few more millions before going over to Middle East or China or MSL....
 

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when i was in England and u want act local, u got to learn to walk in the rain...lol

only sissies use umbrella in the rain lol
 

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England rains alot

Everyday gloomy sky...in winter time, sun goes down at 4pm...sibeh miserable one

imagine need to train during winter...lung will freeze up sia lol

la liga, french ligue 1 all got winter break. only english and scottish leagues dun have.
 

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i would go spain myself

UK weather is crap

Especially Manchester...... London is still preferred to Manchester and Cech chose Arsenal instead of United. I believe if United is in London, ADM would not have left.

Just like many cities within the region. The expats would prefer to be in Singapore rather than Jakarta or Malaysia. Reason, the women ( wives / families feel safe and also the facilities are more in line with what they are expecting back home.

IT is not UK weather. It is the weather in Manchester.
 

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Are Manchester United Being ‘Van Gaalised’ Like Bayern Munich Were?

Remember Louis van Gaal’s time as manager of the Dutch national team at the World Cup?

No, not the one in Brazil, last summer. The one before that. You probably don’t, because the World Cup of 2014 was in fact Van Gaal’s very first World Cup despite the fact this was already his second stint as manager of the Dutch national team.

Back in 2002, the first time the Dutch manager was in charge of the Netherlands, they actually failed to get past the qualifying stages and were forced to watch the tournament from home. It was, in retrospect, one of the biggest failures of Van Gaal’s entire career, and much of it can be blamed on his reluctance to be ruthless.

At the time, the Dutch national team was chock full of superstars like Clarence Seedorf, Edgar Davids, Frank and Ronald de Boer and of course strike partnership Ruud van Nistelrooy and Patrick Kluivert. It was a team full of the players who had done so well in 1998, when the Dutch reached the semifinal during the World Cup in France, supplemented with some more than exciting young talent.

But for reasons that never quite became clear, the team underperformed. Losing multiple times against opponents like Portugal and the Republic of Ireland, the Dutch ended up in third place and failed to qualify for the tournament proper that year. These were players who had done their country proud in the past. What’s more, they had done Van Gaal proud, back when he was manager at Ajax in 1995 and Kluivert, Davids, Seedorf and the brothers De Boer brought him the Champions League trophy.

Perhaps this was exactly the reason why Van Gaal trusted them so much. And perhaps this was also the reason why he was afraid to axe any of these players after the first couple of disappointing performances. It wasn’t until after his departure until Van Gaal realised he had placed his faith in the wrong set of players; that perhaps it was wrong to have unwavering faith in playersin the first place.

Make no mistake: Van Gaal had been ruthless before. At Barcelona, for example, he had had no trouble starting a feud with no less than star player Rivaldo, who was unceremoniously dropped from the squad by the Dutchman. Nonetheless, his failure to qualify for the World Cup in 2002 undoubtedly taught Van Gaal to never, ever back away from being ruthless.

At Bayern Munich, where Van Gaal took charge in 2009, and immediately demanded absolute obedience from everyone in the club structure, employees will undoubtedly agree with this assertion. If club chairman Karl Heinz Rummenige is to be believed, the Dutch manager even tried to “Van Gaalise” the club.

At Manchester United, Van Gaal had no trouble selling home-grown player and local lad Danny Welbeck. A year later, former club top-scorer Robin van Persie was also sold. This was done in ruthless fashion. If there ever were any in the first place, sentimental notions of “loyalty above everything” were removed from Van Gaal’s dictionary in 2002.

It was Van Gaal’s dream to go to the World Cup. In 2002, he failed. Now, near the end of his career, it is his dream to win the Premier League. Van Gaal, a man who usually analyses every detail, is not going to make the same mistake twice.

Take Angel Di Maria. Last season, when it had became apparent Manchester United were sometimes exposed and vulnerable in defence, Van Gaal had no trouble dropping him for failing to adapt to the tactical role his manager had in mind for him. With Di Maria currently missing in action, there is nothing stopping Van Gaal from taking this ruthless approach a step further by agreeing a sale to Paris Saint-Germain, for example.

Will there be any more victims of Van Gaal’s ruthlessness, this transfer window and the next? There probably will be. It’s almost unavoidable. Ruthlessness is, as Van Gaal has learned from experience, the only way forward for a football club.


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Crap in what way?

I hate hot and humid weather.

Which country is better ?

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Haha.... Tavez will tell you... Cold, wet and windy..... Sir Alex didn't give him a new contract much even though he was doing well. Then out of anger and to spike Sir Alex, he left for the other side of Manchester and had much better monies but he dreaded the weather and the live in Manchester. His wife and daughters refused to move to Manchester and would prefer sunny Italy and he left. His so call home sick was due to his wife and daughters refusal to join him in Manchester.
 

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Especially Manchester...... London is still preferred to Manchester and Cech chose Arsenal instead of United. I believe if United is in London, ADM would not have left.

Just like many cities within the region. The expats would prefer to be in Singapore rather than Jakarta or Malaysia. Reason, the women ( wives / families feel safe and also the facilities are more in line with what they are expecting back home.

IT is not UK weather. It is the weather in Manchester.

And Singaporeans more easy to be bullied than Malaysian or Indonesians

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Are Manchester United Being ‘Van Gaalised’ Like Bayern Munich Were?

Remember Louis van Gaal’s time as manager of the Dutch national team at the World Cup?

No, not the one in Brazil, last summer. The one before that. You probably don’t, because the World Cup of 2014 was in fact Van Gaal’s very first World Cup despite the fact this was already his second stint as manager of the Dutch national team.

Back in 2002, the first time the Dutch manager was in charge of the Netherlands, they actually failed to get past the qualifying stages and were forced to watch the tournament from home. It was, in retrospect, one of the biggest failures of Van Gaal’s entire career, and much of it can be blamed on his reluctance to be ruthless.

At the time, the Dutch national team was chock full of superstars like Clarence Seedorf, Edgar Davids, Frank and Ronald de Boer and of course strike partnership Ruud van Nistelrooy and Patrick Kluivert. It was a team full of the players who had done so well in 1998, when the Dutch reached the semifinal during the World Cup in France, supplemented with some more than exciting young talent.

But for reasons that never quite became clear, the team underperformed. Losing multiple times against opponents like Portugal and the Republic of Ireland, the Dutch ended up in third place and failed to qualify for the tournament proper that year. These were players who had done their country proud in the past. What’s more, they had done Van Gaal proud, back when he was manager at Ajax in 1995 and Kluivert, Davids, Seedorf and the brothers De Boer brought him the Champions League trophy.

Perhaps this was exactly the reason why Van Gaal trusted them so much. And perhaps this was also the reason why he was afraid to axe any of these players after the first couple of disappointing performances. It wasn’t until after his departure until Van Gaal realised he had placed his faith in the wrong set of players; that perhaps it was wrong to have unwavering faith in playersin the first place.

Make no mistake: Van Gaal had been ruthless before. At Barcelona, for example, he had had no trouble starting a feud with no less than star player Rivaldo, who was unceremoniously dropped from the squad by the Dutchman. Nonetheless, his failure to qualify for the World Cup in 2002 undoubtedly taught Van Gaal to never, ever back away from being ruthless.

At Bayern Munich, where Van Gaal took charge in 2009, and immediately demanded absolute obedience from everyone in the club structure, employees will undoubtedly agree with this assertion. If club chairman Karl Heinz Rummenige is to be believed, the Dutch manager even tried to “Van Gaalise” the club.

At Manchester United, Van Gaal had no trouble selling home-grown player and local lad Danny Welbeck. A year later, former club top-scorer Robin van Persie was also sold. This was done in ruthless fashion. If there ever were any in the first place, sentimental notions of “loyalty above everything” were removed from Van Gaal’s dictionary in 2002.

It was Van Gaal’s dream to go to the World Cup. In 2002, he failed. Now, near the end of his career, it is his dream to win the Premier League. Van Gaal, a man who usually analyses every detail, is not going to make the same mistake twice.

Take Angel Di Maria. Last season, when it had became apparent Manchester United were sometimes exposed and vulnerable in defence, Van Gaal had no trouble dropping him for failing to adapt to the tactical role his manager had in mind for him. With Di Maria currently missing in action, there is nothing stopping Van Gaal from taking this ruthless approach a step further by agreeing a sale to Paris Saint-Germain, for example.

Will there be any more victims of Van Gaal’s ruthlessness, this transfer window and the next? There probably will be. It’s almost unavoidable. Ruthlessness is, as Van Gaal has learned from experience, the only way forward for a football club.


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This I agree........... wholeheartedly.
 

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And Singaporeans more easy to be bullied than Malaysian or Indonesians

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This I am not too sure. I have worked with lots of expats and this is what I learned from them.

I have my business and offices abroad and I can tell you, even the Singaporeans that work with me would prefer the cities than outskirts.

I remember I have mentioned earlier that when I had my office in Jurong way back in 1994 and during that time, I was advertising to get a receptionist for extended period of time and didn't get one and when one came for interview whereby I offered her SGD 1700 slightly higher than those working in the city center and the lady preferred the same job in Raffles area at SGD 1500. The reason being that she can go shopping during her lunch time and city live offers more "live" and activities. I even offered to do pick ups at the stations and it is still not attractive enough.
 

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Barcelona will look to delay the sale of Pedro to Manchester United until after their involvement in next month’s UEFA Super Cup, according to Marca.

It looks increasingly likely that the Spain forward will move to United, especially as the Premier League side are about to cash in on Argentina winger Angel Di Maria. Marca reports that United and Barca have all but agreed a fee, with Pedro likely to move for between €30m and €32m.

With the start of the Premier League season and their involvement in Champions League qualifiers on the horizon, United want to finalise the deal as soon as possible, but Barca want to retain his services until after they have taken on fellow La Liga outfit Sevilla in the UEFA Cup in Tblisi on August 11.

Barca are mindful that Lionel Messi and Neymar may not be in peak physical condition by the time they face Sevilla and, as such, they want Pedro to be available for the European fixture.

damm, i got home tickets to barcelona and bilbao i think on aug 17. looks like the no7 jersey would be empty
 
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