[RANT] How come hdb allow ppl to anyhow cancel MCPS one?? unfair!!

[Geforce3]

no reply wor maybe someone can stir up big big

 

[Alfs1709]

no reply wor maybe someone can stir up big big

They should have given a interim reply by 3 days even if the person u have written to need to discuss with other dept.

In curious to know their reply too. Try writin a follow up?

 

[leadbyexample]

no reply wor maybe someone can stir up big big

you emailed hdb sales?

i think someone has to write a follow up and include the thread..

hdb really sweeping this under the rug leh.

 

[noobified]

SINGAPORE - Applicants for Housing Board (HDB) flats who withdraw from priority schemes that enhance their chances in the ballot will have their cases re-assessed to determine if they can still maintain their queue number without the priority scheme.

While priority schemes enhance the chances of applicants' to secure a flat, it does not assure them of a favourable queue position. It also does not guarantee a queue position ahead of non-Married Child Priority Scheme (MCPS) applicants, the Housing Board said in reply to queries from The Straits Times.

"Should applicants withdraw from a priority scheme such as the MCPS after balloting has been completed, HDB will check the ballot results to determine if they can still maintain their queue number without the priority scheme," the Housing Board added.



It was responding to a post circulating on citizen news site All Singapore Stuff which said that a young couple had allegedly bypassed the HDB queue by exploiting a loophole.

The All Singapore Stuff page provided a link to an Aug 17 Dayre blog post written by a Heydi Lee.

In the post, which has since been taken down, Ms Lee said that she and her fiance, Mr Seah Kah Wee, managed to cancel their application for a five-room flat in Tampines under the MCPS scheme, without change to their ballot number of 91.

The MCPS is a priority scheme that encourages married children and parents to reside together, or in the same or neighbouring estate for mutual care and support. For Build-to-Order exercises, 30 per cent of the flat supply is set aside for first-timer applicants under this scheme.

For Ms Lee's case, she and Mr Seah had applied for a flat in the May 2015 sales launch under the scheme to live near Mr Seah's parents, who live in Tampines. There were 1,170 applicants for some 447 five-room units in the project. The application rate of first-timers applying for the five-room units was 2.0. She did not respond to messages from the paper.

Her post had raised questions among netizens about the fairness of the priority schemes. The person who contributed Ms Lee's blog link to the All Singapore Stuff page noted that it was "extremely unfair for applicants who are unable to use the MCPS scheme to receive a higher chance for their Build-to-Order application".

But HDB noted that although most applicants, "upon the withdrawal from a priority scheme, will likely see an increase in their queue number... a small group of applicants might still maintain their queue numbers".

It added: "This entire balloting process is audited to ensure it remains robust and fair to all applicants applying for a flat."

HDB also noted that on Ms Lee and Mr Seah's date of flat selection on Aug 17, they had informed counter staff that they wished to withdraw from the MCPS, and be considered public applicants.

"Our staff ran a check against the ballot results, and verified that they could still be shortlisted without the MCPS, and without a change to their queue number. Such cases are rare, but possible, due to the nature of balloting that involves random chances," HDB said.

Sauce: http://www.straitstimes.com/singapo...withdraw-from-hdb-priority-schemes-will-be-re

 

[Ava|on]

Sauce: http://www.straitstimes.com/singapo...withdraw-from-hdb-priority-schemes-will-be-re

Wah, huat ah!

 

[Gixxerfied]

Impressive...Their public scheme ticket must have been 091 as well..

 

[Ava|on]

"Our staff ran a check against the ballot results, and verified that they could still be shortlisted without the MCPS, and without a change to their queue number. Such cases are rare, but possible, due to the nature of balloting that involves random chances," HDB said.

What more can we say? It's a rare occurrence, move on.

Impressive...Their public scheme ticket must have been 091 as well..

They can go buy Toto liao, 9191.

 

[Gixxerfied]

What more can we say? It's a rare occurrence, move on.




They can go buy Toto liao, 9191.

Yea, not even a few numbers back...

 

[Kac2009]

"Our staff ran a check against the ballot results, and verified that they could still be shortlisted without the MCPS, and without a change to their queue number. Such cases are rare, but possible, due to the nature of balloting that involves random chances," HDB said.

->Sounds like trying to brush the issue aside. Loophole say loophole. Call a spade a spade.

If that's the case, you will see more people trying their luck by getting an appointment through MCPS and only to withdraw on the day of appointment itself.

"It added: "This entire balloting process is audited to ensure it remains robust and fair to all applicants applying for a flat.""


Audited by who?

 

[leadbyexample]

Yea, not even a few numbers back...

This is nonsense. Case by case? Ok lor then just their stupid reason of 'we didn't know!' also can? Hdb don't wanna admit their fault zzzz

How is 'we didn't know' a valid reason??

 

[Xcert]

Sauce: http://www.straitstimes.com/singapo...withdraw-from-hdb-priority-schemes-will-be-re

Basically saying "I am HDB.I do whatever I feel like it."

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[leadbyexample]

Blood boiling.

 

[xsurycx]

If the balloted result is not via MCPS. why the CSO has to go and check if can cancel the scheme for her? rubbish

 

[Geforce3]

How can they get the same ballot number? I can still understand of their ballot number is higher but still can choose

 

[Ange1cry]

"Our staff ran a check against the ballot results, and verified that they could still be shortlisted without the MCPS, and without a chance to their queue number. Such cases are rare, but possible, due to the nature of balloting that involves random chances," HDB said.

->Sounds like trying to brush the issue aside. Loophole say loophole. Call a spade a spade.

If that's the case, you will see more people trying their luck by getting an appointment through MCPS and only to withdraw on the day of appointment itself.

"It added: "This entire balloting process is audited to ensure it remains robust and fair to all applicants applying for a flat.""


Audited by who?

True. So they mean can apply via mcps for extra change then ballot already get small number then withdraw the scheme.

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[TsubasaS]

Not fair...life goes on.
Hao lian couple 1 - 0 online keyboard warriors. F.

 

[johnsonheng]

dun know if seriously doubt HDB replies
i thought the flat are alway over subscrible....
so zun, got enough unit .....

seriously i dun believe

 

[some1outthere]

i see liaos, my eyes also red.
need to save the blog post before she takes it down..

nothing personal. just need HDB to clarify why this is even allowed.
her reasons also not soundly justifiable. when you apply MCPS, got state clearly the rules and regulations one mah. =.="

/rant

well..she took all her posts down.. wonder who informed her

Someone took a screencap rite... sic leh..

 

[leadbyexample]

But in her post, the officer told her she'd check if they could retain their number, not check what their number was in the public balloting. And when the lady came back, she did not inform them that their public number is the same, else heydi would have definitely posted that as luckiest news of her life what.

 

[brianlee_sg]

"Our staff ran a check against the ballot results, and verified that they could still be shortlisted without the MCPS, and without a change to their queue number. Such cases are rare, but possible, due to the nature of balloting that involves random chances," HDB said.

->Sounds like trying to brush the issue aside. Loophole say loophole. Call a spade a spade.

If that's the case, you will see more people trying their luck by getting an appointment through MCPS and only to withdraw on the day of appointment itself.

"It added: "This entire balloting process is audited to ensure it remains robust and fair to all applicants applying for a flat.""


Audited by who?

Humm sorry I dont understand how the ballot works.
Does it means the applicant had ballot twice, one with mcps and one without?