Which audiophile DAP are you hooting in 2015?

[Bplakad]

i have the miles davis tribute in the office and using it now. tonight i will try it out on my other iems - triplefi 10/westone 4r.

 

[ScVandMagix]

i have the miles davis tribute in the office and using it now. tonight i will try it out on my other iems - triplefi 10/westone 4r.

btw do u experience intermittent blips/interruptions when you set the Lock Range Adjustment to Normal or Narrow ?

 

[Bplakad]

everything seems normal - so far have not experience any interruptions.

 

[ScVandMagix]

everything seems normal - so far have not experience any interruptions.

what file format are you utilising normally ? and you using wide/normal/narrow ?

 

[Bplakad]

I am using flac files copied from cds. I do not have any high resolution files. Not sure what is this wide/normal/narrow settings which you are referring to (can tell me more?). I charged the unit yesterday and just tried playing music this morning. still exploring.

 

[LegendZenify]

I am using flac files copied from cds. I do not have any high resolution files. Not sure what is this wide/normal/narrow settings which you are referring to (can tell me more?). I charged the unit yesterday and just tried playing music this morning. still exploring.

It's the Lock Range adjustment function, which is for jitter rejection.
Narrow has the best jitter rejection (followed by normal and wide)
However, with 'Narrow', in files with too much jitter there may be issues like "intermittent blips/interruptions", coz part of the music signal may be 'rejected'.

 

[derazor]

Just bought the Onkyo dxp1. with gain set as normal, my volume is set to 105. can i know if this is normal? what are your usual volume level - anyone keen to share.

My Pioneer is at 130 ~140/160 , Normal.

 

[Gaghiel]

My Pioneer is at 130 ~140/160 , Normal.

Driving which iem? Outdoor volume? Kind of high at normal gain.

My Onkyo on SE low gain with volume less than 100, driving universal hybrid iem. Not sure if there is power diff between Pioneer n Onkyo. Indoor use. For outdoor maybe up to 120 same settings

 

[ScVandMagix]

anyone experienced the player randomly crashing on you for the Onkyo player ?

 

[Gaghiel]

anyone experienced the player randomly crashing on you for the Onkyo player ?

Nope so far. Typical android pop up error?

 

[ScVandMagix]

Nope so far. Typical android pop up error?

nope, the player just freezes and crashes and I will have to restart the player.

But this only happens when the DSP function is on.

When the DSP function is off, the player works flawlessly.

 

[derazor]

Driving which iem? Outdoor volume? Kind of high at normal gain.

My Onkyo on SE low gain with volume less than 100, driving universal hybrid iem. Not sure if there is power diff between Pioneer n Onkyo. Indoor use. For outdoor maybe up to 120 same settings

Outdoor la

 

[rickysio]

Volume is only comparable when you're using the same IEM anyway.

 

[Bplakad]

I just noticed that some chinese words cannot display on the Dxp1 itself but look ok on the xdap link. anyone has this issue?

 

[ScVandMagix]

I just noticed that some chinese words cannot display on the Dxp1 itself but look ok on the xdap link. anyone has this issue?

my chinese words look fine... it's jus the random crashing that irritates me ahhaha.

 

[korvin12]

In terms of sound quality, which dap is better? Onkyo DP-X1 or Pioneer XDP-100R?

 

[Guan22]

In terms of sound quality, which dap is better? Onkyo DP-X1 or Pioneer XDP-100R?

Without a doubt, the DP-X1.

 

[LegendZenify]

In terms of sound quality, which dap is better? Onkyo DP-X1 or Pioneer XDP-100R?

Onkyo is superior if going balanced.
There's no difference between the two if going SE.
(Been posted on head-fi that Onkyo uses single dac & amp for SE, and the two players SE out measure exactly the same)

 

[Guan22]

Onkyo is superior if going balanced.
There's no difference between the two if going SE.
(Been posted on head-fi that Onkyo uses single dac & amp for SE, and the two players SE out measure exactly the same)

I have heard both on single ended and they sounded different. Pioneer is cleaner and more neutral, while Onkyo is more musical while retaining very good clarity level.

YMMV.

 

[LegendZenify]

I have heard both on single ended and they sounded different. Pioneer is cleaner and more neutral, while Onkyo is more musical while retaining very good clarity level.

YMMV.

Expectation bias maybe, or unequal burn-in time?
The two players use the same dac/amp (for SE) and have similar implementation, and the measurements are stunningly almost identical.
http://ohm-image.net/data/audio/rmaa-onkyo-dp-x1-24-bit
http://ohm-image.net/data/audio/rmaa-pioneer-xdp-100r-24-bit
YMMV indeed.

EDIT: Did you use the ACG mode in SE?