Manchester United - Theatre of Dreams - - Part 25

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Predict away the next cup game boys! Going for a win for the home team to hammer the final nail in the coffin for con man..
 

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And if there was some miscue in the hammer, another home game defeat will conjure up a knock out punch for that clown to ensure a trophyless season..
 

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i think we probably have a done deal with Mourinho to start from next season. So regardless of Van Gaal wins or not, he will probably stay only until the end of the season.

If he gets sacked before then, it won't be as dirty as the Moysey sacking
 

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The words might have been spoken by Shrewsbury Town’s boss Micky Mellon this week but he said that no-one discovers if they are cut out for football management unless they have lived it.

Giggs hasn’t yet. For me, he needs to sever his attachment. Go and find out if he can cut it in the game without being tied to the apron-strings at his only club.

If the power-brokers plump for Mourinho’s experience the Portuguese will want his own men around him. And if Giggs is over-looked again, he needs to accept that the time may never be right.

Far better for his own legacy as a player to remain untouched until he is ready.

If Giggs proves himself away from Old Trafford, then surely he will have earned the right one day to return.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/ryan-giggs-needs-manchester-united-7410584
 

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Do you people really believe ahgaal will get sacked with a defeat against Shrewsbury? I think he will not be sacked even if he plays the whole youth team out of position for us and deliberately loses every game. Ed is weak and ahgaal knows it.
 

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Just putting it out there.
 

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i think i post this before. facts gathered by some guy.

here's how his teams have ranked in terms of goals scored in the league each season.

Porto:
02/03 - 2nd
03/04 - 1st
Chelsea:
04/05 - 2nd
05/06 - 1st
Inter:
08/09 - 1st
09/10 - 1st
Madrid:
10/11 - 1st
11/12 - 1st
12/13 - 2nd
Chelsea:
13/14 - 3rd
14/15 - 2nd
 

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Do you people really believe ahgaal will get sacked with a defeat against Shrewsbury? I think he will not be sacked even if he plays the whole youth team out of position for us and deliberately loses every game. Ed is weak and ahgaal knows it.

i still believe he will be here for another season.
 

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if wanna sack would have done long ago. the club don't need further defeats to assess him.
 

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if wanna sack would have done long ago. the club don't need further defeats to assess him.

maybe waiting for mathematical confirmation that champions league qualification is impossible
then no need to pay compensation

Moyes had such a clause too, and was sacked the morning after a loss or draw which guaranteed his demise
 

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Moyes case was they only need to pay 12mths compensation instead of the full lenth of his contract.

van Gaal only has a year odd left.
what is the "mathematical conclusion" gonna save the club? 5 mths salary?
 

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Utd's internal power struggles explained (as much as 140 character tweets will allow). MUFC has 2 boards, football club and overall company.

Woodward + Richard Arnold in commercial-is-king alliance on Company Board vs. Fergie, Gill, Charlton on FC board: https://t.co/HkzhTEbIUj

Power lies with Company Board (mainly Woodward + Glazers) but Fergie alliance retains huge influence on the ground at OT and Carrington

Charlton=anti-Mourinho; Fergie too (strung him along in 2012/13: ignore public 'matey' image). Gill was pro- in 2013, overall more anti- now

Fergie views Jose as "a pup", not in his league. Hated losing to him so often & had to use diff approach to him compared to Wenger, Benitez

Fergie knew Mourinho wanted Utd job so strung him along. His final "victory" was stiffing him over 2013 succession: power and control.

Fergie furious @ loss of influence.Hates Wward&his commercial dept, tells pals Utd is "all about money now" (despite it paying him £2m p/a)

Gill's role usurped by Wward since '05 so dislike there too. Gill (amazingly) popular with OT staff. Fergie sidelined by Glazers since 2013.

Co92 represent way for Fergie to re-gain lost influence, hence pushing Giggs as manager. Fergie eyes "back seat driver" role, wants LVG out.

Wward OK'd 'Fergie tip' Moyes in 2013 so must stick with LVG to avoid 2 failures on record.Needs LVG to see out season for "honourable" exit

Woodward wants Co92 'legend' for marketing purposes but hates competition from Co92 'brand': MUFC employees banned from Co92 hotel last year

Woodward appoints Giggs, gives Ferg back influence; appoints Jose, Ferg shunted but Giggs might quit. Plus sacking LVG looks bad = STALEMATE

Wward clueless re f'ball matters & terrified of making wrong call. Has to keep stringing Mourinho along (Dec contact+last week) in meantime.

Mourinho DESPERATE for Utd for years; now ready to wait but knows Wward is flakey + no guarantees; trying to put pressure on re "other jobs"

Added factor to LVG being shown as failure is Wward under pressure in Florida: Glazers been talking to potential new CEO who is Fergie ally.

Other big problem for Woodward is sacking LVG + missing CL is v expensive. As is Mourinho. Giggs represents budget Glazer-tastic replacement

Other strands: Mourinho agent Mendes is 'friends' with Wward; also long in business with Ferg+Gill & now Co92 through ValenciaFC & Peter Lim

Rooney also a factor:still biggest draw for sponsors - being onside with him helps get in with Wward, hence Co92 praising his "performances"

Fergie OK'd Co92 to bash LVG in media until Dec;then gave backing to LVG when Mourinho available. Pro-Giggs media message now more desperate

Entire shambles = Glazers reaping what theyve sown since 2005: theyre reluctant to even invest in youth system as it's "not cost effective

More to follow.
 
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