2015 - The year for PC enthusiast

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2015 is probably going to be a good year for us PC consumer. Alot of release seem to be push (or rushed) to next year, include new technologies, fabrication and interface. Long story short we can build an all-in-one badass PC with the newest hardware.


CPU - Intel Skylake + Broadwell (April 2015 onward)

It sound abit weird, but that is what is going to happen if intel followed its roadmap for 2015. Broadwell K CPU will be release in early 2015, and then followed by Intel Skylake mainstream CPU by April. These 2 CPUs were be using 2 different architecture hence you can expect a different chipset Motherboard supporting these. Wikipedia and other sources claim that the S-variant Skylake CPU will be release first. In other word, the desktop variants will come (6th gen I5/I7) before the mobile part. Dont get too excited though, these new skylake CPU are locked processor although it is socket 1151 based. The unlocked version wont be out till late 2015 or 2016.


Expect big performance boost for Skylake over Haswell/Broadwell. Here are some of the interesting feature of Skylake (from wikipeida)

14 nm manufacturing process
LGA 1151 socket
Z107 chipset (Sunrise Point)
TDP up to 95 W (LGA 1151)
Support both DDR3 SDRAM and DDR4 SDRAM (up to 64 GB of RAM on LGA 1151 variants.)
Support for 20 PCI Express 3.0 lanes (LGA 1151)
Support for PCI Express 4.0 (Skylake-E/EP/EX)
Support for Thunderbolt 3.0 (Alpine Ridge)
128 KB L1 cache, 16-way associative instruction cache + 16-way set associative data cache (2 cycles)
512 KB L2 cache, 16-way set associative (6 cycles)
12 MB L3 cache, 24-way set associative (12 cycles)
128 MB L4 eDRAM cache
Up to four cores for mainstream variant
Support for SATA Express
AVX-512F: Advanced Vector Extensions 3.2
Integer register increased from 16 in x64 standard to 32 in EM64T enhanced mode
Intel SHA Extensions: SHA-1 and SHA-256 (Secure Hash Algorithms)
Intel MPX (Memory Protection Extensions)
Intel ADX (Multi-Precision Add-Carry Instruction Extensions)


The most notable feature might be the new 512 bits instruction AVX 512F. Cache size are also getting a good bump from L1 to L3 with an addition of 128MB L4 eDRAM. Other feature include support for advanced technology such as DDR, new Apline thunderbolt, USB 3.1, Jacksonville LAN and Douglas Peak. Last but not least, They are ditching the FIVR concept in their skylake, which is one of the heat contributor for haswell CPU. Who knows, the good days for overclocking might return.

P.S: Don't be surprise to see vendor selling I7-5770K and 6770 side by side. there is a chance it might happen.

P.P.S: AMD is also going back to the drawing board for its CPU future plan, they are planning to ditch their current CMT design and revert back to their old SMT. AMD might revealed this new CPUs in 2015.

GPU - 20nm Maxwell / Bermudas (mid 2015)

Nothing new to this as they were supposed to be release this year, yet was subsequently delayed thanks to TSMC poor yield. Pushing back to 2015 is not a bad thing though since you can hoot all the new stuff together.

Not sure how great the 20nm GPU will be, but dont be surprised to see 4K-5K cores GPU offerings from both camp (We have already come across rumor of 4224 cores R9 390X). Pricing wise though, I am definitely looking forward to red camp.

P.S: GTX 880 might be release by end of the year. you can get a good gauge on how the next generation 20nm variant will perform.

OS - Window 9 (Expected launch: April 2015)

If there is anything history teach us, it's that we shouldn't get too hyped up over new MS OS, which has proven 50% time to be quite a failure. Yet this time things were a little difference for Window 9, after the recent panic over the Chinese government banned window 8 fiasco, Microsoft decided to put Window 9 back to the drawing board and drastically change some of it core design. One thing that is worth noting, they might be ditching Metro theme for PC version of window 9. Nothing been confirm so far as security has tighten over Window 9 leaks recently. But as far as I know, The enterprise edition of Win 9 does the ability to turn off cloud and disabled the metro theme completely.


The good? The old familar aero theme may be coming back, which to me, is probably the best upgrade from window 7.


Others

DDR 4 Ram and new SSD based on SATA express interface. I am specially interested on the latter since the newer SSD no longer get bottleneck by the old SATA 3 interface. Really looking forward to new offering like Samsung 850s and the like using the new interface.



2015 is quite an exciting year if you are looking forward to build a new desktop.
 
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All these so called products will be pushed back to even later if PC sales are declining.

Broadwell was supposed to be out this year. But we only got refreshed Haswell.

So I am not hopeful skylake will be out next year.

I am hyped about full blown Maxwell from Nvidia. Will see how it performs.

I am not really excited about Win 9 though. Probably its a Windows 8 with the Start Menu maybe?

DDR4 still too exp. Need a few more years before it reaches mainstream.
 

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You want win 8 with start menu its window 8.1 liao.
 

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All these so called products will be pushed back to even later if PC sales are declining.

Broadwell was supposed to be out this year. But we only got refreshed Haswell.

So I am not hopeful skylake will be out next year.

I am hyped about full blown Maxwell from Nvidia. Will see how it performs.

I am not really excited about Win 9 though. Probably its a Windows 8 with the Start Menu maybe?

DDR4 still too exp. Need a few more years before it reaches mainstream.

Intel seem to be determined to stay on schedule for Skylake. The delay for broadwell was because of the 14nm transition yield but the development of Skylake has nothing to do with the fabrication, therefore it is possible for Skylake to be release in the same timeframe as BW.

Many sources has confirm the release of skylake during that Q2 timeframe, and intel seem to be really focusing on promoting Skylake, much more than BW. Not sure why though, maybe the HW/BW architecture wasn't considered successful afterall (or basically, fall short of their expectation)...


As for win 9, like I said they are putting it back to the drawing board. Somehow thanks to china MS is really getting their ass buck up to improve their user experience for their OS. I hope for big positive changes to come up. Worst come to worst I will buy their enterprise edition for that classic aero theme.
 
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still using satki sandy bridge i5 2500k~

maybe 2015 will be the year i upgrade :3
 

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I'm seeing 2015 is the year where mobile PC kicks in. Just a hunch though. I honestly feel that a MS surface-like device will pick up traction amongst the general consumers.
 

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I am not really excited about Win 9 though. Probably its a Windows 8 with the Start Menu maybe?

HaswellF5 was what Haswell should've been

Win98 was what Win95 should've been

WinXP was what Mistake Edition should've been

Win7 was what Vista should've been

Win9 will be what Win8 should've been
 

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HaswellF5 was what Haswell should've been

Win98 was what Win95 should've been

WinXP was what Mistake Edition should've been

Win7 was what Vista should've been

Win9 will be what Win8 should've been
Reminds me of the Mac vs PC advert. Hahahaha
 

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HaswellF5 was what Haswell should've been

Win98 was what Win95 should've been

WinXP was what Mistake Edition should've been

Win7 was what Vista should've been

Win9 will be what Win8 should've been

The world is progressing slowly because of big company that monopolized the market.


Great that china banned window 8, it tell MS to bloody wake up his idea.
 

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I gotten say 850 pro comes out unexpectedly too soon...

Still this is a good news!
 

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Personally, I think the desktop user base have declined quite a fair bit. Even with all the new stuffs coming up, I have my doubts it will generate as much interest as it used to be.

For me, I think it is always interesting to see new gen of graphic solution from both Nvidia and AMD, though I prefer not to rush to get one when its new.

CPU wise, it has been pretty boring over these few years to be honest. I am still sticking to my Ivy Bridge for now.

Windows 9, I have my doubts too. From my opinion, there are added useful features for each release, though I believe most can still do without some or most of it. Usually the changes are to do with the graphical interface. Things like DirectX updates don't affect most users unless you are game often on a PC.
 

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HaswellF5 was what Haswell should've been

Win98 was what Win95 should've been

WinXP was what Mistake Edition should've been

Win7 was what Vista should've been

Win9 will be what Win8 should've been

mistake editions = windows 2000/millennium?
 

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mistake editions = windows 2000/millennium?

Windows ME and Windows 2000 are very different. Win2K is a descendent of Windows NT (up to version 4). Internally, Win2K is NT 5.0 and WinXP is NT 5.1. On the other hand, ME descended from Win98 and suffered from a lack of proper driver support.
 

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Even with all the steam sale, i am still replaying tear to tiara, utaware, rance, BBC... TBS game released nearly a decade ago.

Today game just no longer have a good story like the old one.
 

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hi all i m new here

hope 2 pick up sum hardware knowledge

guess here is a gd startin pt

I wouldnt say its a good starting point here as alot of technical term/name were used... Still I am glad u find this thread informative. :)


Anyway AMD recently made a bold claim to increase CPU performance per watt by a factor of 25 within the next 5-6 years. Sound abit of a ass-pull, but inside me I do really wish it will happen, because this will give Intel the drive to quickly roll out their most advanced CPUs rather than slowly milking us (BW would have been completely skipped and Skylake would have directly replace it if AMD was competitive). The fact that SL-K model only comes 9-12 months after the first locked S model released is kinda pissing me off...
 

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2015 is probably going to be a good year for us PC consumer. Alot of release seem to be push (or rushed) to next year, include new technologies, fabrication and interface. Long story short we can build an all-in-one badass PC with the newest hardware.


CPU - Intel Skylake + Broadwell (April 2015 onward)

It sound abit weird, but that is what is going to happen if intel followed its roadmap for 2015. Broadwell K CPU will be release in early 2015, and then followed by Intel Skylake mainstream CPU by April. These 2 CPUs were be using 2 different architecture hence you can expect a different chipset Motherboard supporting these. Wikipedia and other sources claim that the S-variant Skylake CPU will be release first. In other word, the desktop variants will come (6th gen I5/I7) before the mobile part. Dont get too excited though, these new skylake CPU are locked processor although it is socket 1151 based. The unlocked version wont be out till late 2015 or 2016.


Expect big performance boost for Skylake over Haswell/Broadwell. Here are some of the interesting feature of Skylake (from wikipeida)




The most notable feature might be the new 512 bits instruction AVX 512F. Cache size are also getting a good bump from L1 to L3 with an addition of 128MB L4 eDRAM. Other feature include support for advanced technology such as DDR, new Apline thunderbolt, USB 3.1, Jacksonville LAN and Douglas Peak. Last but not least, They are ditching the FIVR concept in their skylake, which is one of the heat contributor for haswell CPU. Who knows, the good days for overclocking might return.

P.S: Don't be surprise to see vendor selling I7-5770K and 6770 side by side. there is a chance it might happen.

P.P.S: AMD is also going back to the drawing board for its CPU future plan, they are planning to ditch their current CMT design and revert back to their old SMT. AMD might revealed this new CPUs in 2015.

GPU - 20nm Maxwell / Bermudas (mid 2015)

Nothing new to this as they were supposed to be release this year, yet was subsequently delayed thanks to TSMC poor yield. Pushing back to 2015 is not a bad thing though since you can hoot all the new stuff together.

Not sure how great the 20nm GPU will be, but dont be surprised to see 4K-5K cores GPU offerings from both camp (We have already come across rumor of 4224 cores R9 390X). Pricing wise though, I am definitely looking forward to red camp.

P.S: GTX 880 might be release by end of the year. you can get a good gauge on how the next generation 20nm variant will perform.

OS - Window 9 (Expected launch: April 2015)

If there is anything history teach us, it's that we shouldn't get too hyped up over new MS OS, which has proven 50% time to be quite a failure. Yet this time things were a little difference for Window 9, after the recent panic over the Chinese government banned window 8 fiasco, Microsoft decided to put Window 9 back to the drawing board and drastically change some of it core design. One thing that is worth noting, they might be ditching Metro theme for PC version of window 9. Nothing been confirm so far as security has tighten over Window 9 leaks recently. But as far as I know, The enterprise edition of Win 9 does the ability to turn off cloud and disabled the metro theme completely.


The good? The old familar aero theme may be coming back, which to me, is probably the best upgrade from window 7.


Others

DDR 4 Ram and new SSD based on SATA express interface. I am specially interested on the latter since the newer SSD no longer get bottleneck by the old SATA 3 interface. Really looking forward to new offering like Samsung 850s and the like using the new interface.



2015 is quite an exciting year if you are looking forward to build a new desktop.
All these latest technologies will be at their priciest phase too... :(
 
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