23SA

[265387]

Hows life?

 

[warrgghh]

23SA as a HIMARS spec means you'll be definitely go overseas to do live firing at least once. With regards to which country, it'll depend on where you get posted to. If you remain in AI, then you won't follow the HIMARS for live firing.

You'll be doing a lot of theory and some handling of the HIMARS during trainee phase, and quite a fair bit of driving. Also, if you get posted to 23SA, the culture there is quite terrible because there's too many specs and too few men. So good luck.

 

[j_t_fusion]

wah... now 23SA is a full HIMARS battalion? no more Pegasus in 23SA?

23SA not conducting the HIMARS courses on their own? AI is doing it?

23SA now is still mono-intake or become evergreen already?

 

[warrgghh]

23SA still have pegasus, not totally HIMARS.

HIMARS course for specs is done in AI with resources provided by 23SA, that means that cadets need to march back and forth from AI to 23SA during training phase. Once pass out as 3rd Sergeant will still carry on training with 23SA, even for the instructors who remain in AI.

Mono-intake only for pegasus batt. Not too sure about the men for the HIMARS though..

 

[j_t_fusion]

lol... the arrangement so weird...

24SA conduct all their FATA courses (men, spec, officer) on their own, AI is not involved at all.

so no reason why 23SA cannot.

 

[ChickenRiceCrews]

good luck liao. go 23sa prepare kena wack like dog. Very regimental. 24sa also quite jialat now. was from 24

 

[j_t_fusion]

aiya... actually all along 24SA quite jialat.

last time khatib camp never really enforce the "head dress on when not under shelter" policy. so you will see ppl from 23SA, AI, KTSC not wearing any dress head while moving around. 24SA is the only unit that enforces the policy.

and then other units' men can go for their meals on their own. but for 24SA, the men must go for their meals together as a battery.

 

[warrgghh]

24SA specs get trained under AI now, only officers and men train directly under the unit now.

Last time still can wear jockey cap in smart 4 to walk around, now standard head dress in smart 4 is beret.

Anyway, spec in Khatib is pretty screwed up, guard duty is even worse now.

 

[j_t_fusion]

my time guard duty for spec already pretty bad... such a small camp still need 3 spec of each guard duty.

now even worse?

 

[ChickenRiceCrews]

aiya... actually all along 24SA quite jialat.

last time khatib camp never really enforce the "head dress on when not under shelter" policy. so you will see ppl from 23SA, AI, KTSC not wearing any dress head while moving around. 24SA is the only unit that enforces the policy.

and then other units' men can go for their meals on their own. but for 24SA, the men must go for their meals together as a battery.

cause got a idiot from 23sa go say out about headdress, then the FSM thought is from 24sa one, come shoot arrow to 24sa. 24sa can OTOT go eat cookhouse one leh. dont need bty lvl. Just ord from 24 nia

 

[ChickenRiceCrews]

24SA specs get trained under AI now, only officers and men train directly under the unit now.

Last time still can wear jockey cap in smart 4 to walk around, now standard head dress in smart 4 is beret.

Anyway, spec in Khatib is pretty screwed up, guard duty is even worse now.

Thanks to a idiot name ashley a signaller from 23sa. Really dog. stir people untill smart4 beret.

 

[warrgghh]

23SA regimentation wise is quite bad. If you're a new 3sg going in there thinking you're gonna get men to do your bidding then you're in for a big surprise. Only the pegasus batt will have many men there.

As for training wise, I don't really know how the men train, but during my time in AI, the SCTs learn theory, maintenance and reloading plus lots and lots of driving.

 

[warrgghh]

my time guard duty for spec already pretty bad... such a small camp still need 3 spec of each guard duty.

now even worse?

Now the guard comm is the best duty to take liao. No point being guard 2 or guard 3 when you have to stand beside the sentry for the entire duration of the duty.

 

[j_t_fusion]

why you say now guard comm is the best duty to take? the guard comm's job scope has gotten reduced?

during my time, front gate is sole responsibility of the guard 2. back gate is guard 3. then the armskote is the sole responsibility of the guard comm.

guard 3 is the best, cos only need to work during that few hours during the morning, evening, and night.

guard 2 is second best, cos only need to work from evening to 2359. then can sleep until 4 to 5am whereby the food supplier comes to deliver the food, and all those cleaners and cook house staff comes in.

guard comm is the worst, cos every 2 hours need to open armskote and issue/receive rifle and ammo for the guard detail. and then since the guard detail needs to start the prowl on time, you need to open the armskote early and prepare everything before hand. and then you still need to wait for the previous detail to come back and return arms. based on my past experience, guard comm only have 1hr 30min to 1hr 45min of rest between each detail.


so some of us suggested that the guard 3 should help out with the front gate and armskote duties. my unit say they will highlight it but until i ORD still no changes.

 

[warrgghh]

why you say now guard comm is the best duty to take? the guard comm's job scope has gotten reduced?

during my time, front gate is sole responsibility of the guard 2. back gate is guard 3. then the armskote is the sole responsibility of the guard comm.

guard 3 is the best, cos only need to work during that few hours during the morning, evening, and night.

guard 2 is second best, cos only need to work from evening to 2359. then can sleep until 4 to 5am whereby the food supplier comes to deliver the food, and all those cleaners and cook house staff comes in.

guard comm is the worst, cos every 2 hours need to open armskote and issue/receive rifle and ammo for the guard detail. and then since the guard detail needs to start the prowl on time, you need to open the armskote early and prepare everything before hand. and then you still need to wait for the previous detail to come back and return arms. based on my past experience, guard comm only have 1hr 30min to 1hr 45min of rest between each detail.


so some of us suggested that the guard 3 should help out with the front gate and armskote duties. my unit say they will highlight it but until i ORD still no changes.

The guard duty system changed around early this year, by the time the changes were implemented, I was gone already, so I may not be right.

The guard 3 still does the back gate but his duty now includes helping the guard 2 stand beside the sentry. So it's super sian already, 12 hours is quite bad, imagine the 24 hour duty.

Guard comm just camp inside pass office and armskote, so at least you're only interrupted by the turnout, i/r arms and random checks. But you get to seat down and enjoy air-con.

 

[265387]

btw anyone know how are artillery Institute instructors chosen from pro term cadet course? Btw what happen if ooc, will I still get another chance to continue the next course after I recover or will I be man?

 

[warrgghh]

If you OOC during course time, depending on the severity of your injury, you may get a recourse. But if your injury is too serious, you'll be sent to admin for holding before they send you for re-vocation. And during the period of time you're in waiting, you'll either be in admin, weapon wing, or log store.

As for instructors being chosen, it's best if you be nice to everyone, have the knowledge and don't win golden bayonet. No golden bayonet ever remains in AI.

Anyway, HIMARs quite hard to OOC, mostly theory and driving supposedly..

 

[ChickenRiceCrews]

eh if u fata train cfm go 24 already.

 

[ChickenRiceCrews]

btw anyone know how are artillery Institute instructors chosen from pro term cadet course? Btw what happen if ooc, will I still get another chance to continue the next course after I recover or will I be man?

cfm either u go AI, hqsa or 23sa. 24 is fata trained. and intake is all Poly students. if u know u gona end up in 23sa faster OOC. dog life there.

 

[BlurKillerEX]

I just got posted to 24SA as inf carrier vehicle opr, does that mean I have to drive?