Advice needed : Anyone sued their neighbour successfully using CDRT?

[crazyclubx]

I see. But not sure if that false ceiling will work, after spending that money. Now really phobia when wants to sleep, cause you won't know what time you will wake up by excessive noise....

 

[kimurayuki]

Me too, I also have developed that phobia after having been awaken by some external noises. Sometimes I simply use earplugs.
Sorry just wondering that excessive noise is it deafening?
Maybe can record it down to show it to HDB and town council.

I see. But not sure if that false ceiling will work, after spending that money. Now really phobia when wants to sleep, cause you won't know what time you will wake up by excessive noise....

 

[crazyclubx]

Hi All,
My neighbour is having loud subwoofer at 1am till my windows are vibrating with sound. Imagine the impact. I had to call neighbourhood police. In the end, 2am, the vibration of windows stopped. So I guess is the same idiot, if not, how come it will stop after informing police. Of course, she is taking revenge back. She makes excessive loud noise by slamming door at 11pm to 1am or dropped item. Then slam door again at 6am-7am.

I had try all the soft, kind and friendly approach. Since she did not respond to CMC, my next step is only CDRT. Anybody has experience in submitting CDRT before?

 

[crazyclubx]

why is that i cannot reply to people who pm me?

 

[kimurayuki]

Even during CNY?
Since she is staying alone, she seems to be bored by doing all these to entertain herself?

Hi All,
My neighbour is having loud subwoofer at 1am till my windows are vibrating with sound. Imagine the impact. I had to call neighbourhood police. In the end, 2am, the vibration of windows stopped. So I guess is the same idiot, if not, how come it will stop after informing police. Of course, she is taking revenge back. She makes excessive loud noise by slamming door at 11pm to 1am or dropped item. Then slam door again at 6am-7am.

I had try all the soft, kind and friendly approach. Since she did not respond to CMC, my next step is only CDRT. Anybody has experience in submitting CDRT before?

 

[crazyclubx]

i must post more than 10 posts in order to reply people who pm me... wow

 

[crazyclubx]

Oh no. She is not staying alone. She is a divorcee or window, with an elderly mother, a maid, a poly aged son and a married daughter with kids. Apparently, her daughter with kids has moved out. So whole house is herself aged 50+, her elderly Mom aged 70 +++, a maid and a son maybe aged 17+? The best is daylight is quieter than night time. Daytime, the maid and elderly mother at home is fine. But once she come back around 10.30pm, that's all the mass noise come...

 

[crazyclubx]

Feeling depressed every day and yet has to work. Not sure this kind of mental stress will last long. Mentally and physically tired. It is kind of scary that Singapore has such problems and yet government has no direct solution.

 

[kimurayuki]

When I moved to my own place last year, I also had encountered disappointment and depression, the very beginning i was annoyed by the external noises from busy road and unloading bay.
I wore ear plugs each night I sleep.
Now I already get used with the environment ambience liao.
It really took me sometimes as my previous place with my parents are serene and very quiet surrounding.
I would suggest that you record those noises in video and show it to town council and also HDB officer in your estate.

 

[crazyclubx]

Thank you for reply and suggestion.

My neighbour will slam room or toilet doors as and when anytime from 7pm onwards till next morning of 6.30am. I can hear it despite from wearing ear plugs daily to sleep. Hence, you can imagine the loudness. I even move to sleep in other room, but the noise still can be heard with my earplugs on. I do write to Town Council about it and they just forwarded to HDB as this is noise within flats. HDB officer just called me, he mentioned what they will do is "advice" neighbour not to make noise. There is nothing much they can do.

CMC also can't do much, they can only "invite" them for mediation. 70% won't come down (obviously). Next is legal actions - CDRT or u hire lawyers to issue them letters and then sue them to court. CDRT is cheaper but very very tedious. Lawyers to issue letters will take about few thousands, and if really pursue to court can be around $10K-$20K. It can drag to 6months to 2 years. Wah, is a very long fight.

Of course, video recordings will take up space in storage, not sure if we record ourselves, can it be a relevant evidence. To go court, is better to hire professional specialist to measure the noise and come out with a report.

Imagine all the ways of solutions I have been reading and sourcing. I wish I can just sell this unit now. Damn pissed off and feeling helpless.

 

[Lss]

What about the other neighbors? Surely you are not the only one hearing it right.

 

[slashGNR]

From personal experiences, it's not easy to deal with neighbors from hell, some will stop/control/reduce after the relevant authorities intervened...some simply denied unless you have concrete evidences...We are always on the losing side cos they will do the stuff again when you least expected...

I have stay at different hdb flats all these years dealing with different neighbors noise problems...

The only place that I do not have any problem is staying at the highest floor.

 

[bojangle]

sometime the sounds may not be due to your neighbour, is the wall/ceiling structure design and material.
Especially in punggol, if you do a search, there are some histories of some developer poorly built the flats few years back.

Recently, thought read somewhere there's cardboard found within the walls? All these hollow will echo sound. So a normal close door when echo out may be loud? Just guessing.

 

[kimurayuki]

Based on my previous experiences, I had never dealed with noisy neighbors before. But for choosing my own flat to stay, I will choose top/the highest floor without any considerations. Perhaps it’s due to windy and no concerns of any stomping feet from the above. But to be frank, living in a HDB flat is never been a total peaceful or transquil experience. As you know, sometimes, it’s not the neighbors but those noises from the main road and unloading bay.
I have get used with my 20yrs old resale flat after having stayed there for a year.
I tried ear plugs at the very beginning, the first few months moving in, I told myself “What the hell man! What kind of sharp noise is that coming from the void deck?”
I lodged numerous feeeback to HDB and the issues seems to have gone. They tried to move the unloading of heavy goods to another sheltered area, which I believed it does help reducing the noise.
Of course at night, I will still have to shut all my bedroom windows and turn on aircon to sleep.
The racing motorbikes and the sudden brake of the buses are also quite annoying.
When I was still battling with noise last year, I came across this website.
http://www.dropnoise.net/

There is a kind of noise masking device that is used to mask out the external noise. I didn’t purchase it, rather I DIY it myself. I downloaded a rushing water sound in MP3 format and play it(without loop) using my MP3 speaker. The rushing water sound such as heavy rain and waterfall is able to mask out external noises when the external noise is too disturbing. The heavy rain sound also helps me to fall asleep easily

 

[crazyclubx]

Based on my previous experiences, I had never dealed with noisy neighbors before. But for choosing my own flat to stay, I will choose top/the highest floor without any considerations. Perhaps it’s due to windy and no concerns of any stomping feet from the above. But to be frank, living in a HDB flat is never been a total peaceful or transquil experience. As you know, sometimes, it’s not the neighbors but those noises from the main road and unloading bay.
I have get used with my 20yrs old resale flat after having stayed there for a year.
I tried ear plugs at the very beginning, the first few months moving in, I told myself “What the hell man! What kind of sharp noise is that coming from the void deck?”
I lodged numerous feeeback to HDB and the issues seems to have gone. They tried to move the unloading of heavy goods to another sheltered area, which I believed it does help reducing the noise.
Of course at night, I will still have to shut all my bedroom windows and turn on aircon to sleep.
The racing motorbikes and the sudden brake of the buses are also quite annoying.
When I was still battling with noise last year, I came across this website.
http://www.dropnoise.net/

There is a kind of noise masking device that is used to mask out the external noise. I didn’t purchase it, rather I DIY it myself. I downloaded a rushing water sound in MP3 format and play it(without loop) using my MP3 speaker. The rushing water sound such as heavy rain and waterfall is able to mask out external noises when the external noise is too disturbing. The heavy rain sound also helps me to fall asleep easily

Hi Guys, thanks for all your comments here. The slamming of room/toilet doors are heard like 11:30pm and 6:30am daily. Yes the noise are very clearly heard from above. My unit is positioned in a way, where I do not have left/right neighbours. Only 2 units opposite me after split by a corridor. So very unlikely is from side or opposite neighbours.

Totally agree that we should always buy highest floor (now after experiencing such hell neighbors). But to sell, means must wait for few years, when u experiencing noise daily. Yes the slamming of door is loud till i can hear it even wearing earplugs. Also, for the time being, I also download app with nature music (with rain or thunderstorm) in order to cover a bit of the noise she made. But definitely, this is very unhealthy in a long run.

However, I am looking at soundproof solutions when you run out of other choices. Anybody has experience with soundproof solutions?

 

[henrylbh]

Anyone sued their neighbour successfully for causing excessive noise using Community Dispute Resolution Act (CDRT) and won? If yes, pls advise the following:

1. How much did you spent in Court Fees?

2. What did the Judge award you? $ Damages? Injunction? Apology?

3. Must we produce video, audio evidence? Or will producing complaint emails to HDB, Community Mediation etc be sufficient?

If not convenient to post in forum, pls pm me.

TIA.

Should also bring HDB to CDRT for failure to provide 'quite enjoyment'

 

[d9_lives]

I paid extra for the highest floor.
Best decision ever!
I pity those who had the chance to get the top floor but settled for 2nd highest or lower...

Suggestion: Befriend your neighbours and give them the clear door bumpers. Win-Win.

 

[henrylbh]

I stayed highest floor. Out of lift, only one unit before my corner. Still not happy with neighbour. How?

 

[kimurayuki]

Neighbors staying next door, better 好来好去.
So far no complaints about my neighbors, they are at least well-behaved without making any noise during the day and night.

 

[crazyclubx]

Hi Guys, I am also a victim of having a noisy neighbour living upstairs of me. They love to slam room doors as and when they like. Same, feeling frustrated and angry, I had try all soft approaches like CMC, town council, HDB. I even proceed to read more about CDRT, and keep having audio recordings in my HP. I even talked to a lawyer about such court case. You call police and police come and advise them to lower noise. So? Everyday call?

1) CMC - is no point. Because CMC is not a law enforcer. Most is they will send a letter to your mad neighbour and invite them to come down and talk. So, your mad neighbour received the letter, and this pissed them more and the more they will make louder noise.
2) Town Council - You wrote to them. They will reply you saying oh noise inside a HDB belongs to HDB case. Town Council is more area outside your house.
3) HDB - Received forwarded email from Town Council, will call you after few days. They will try to know what noise. Their solution is they will most "advise" your mad neighbour to please lower noise. In the end, your mad neighbour is more fu**king angry now, they will make sure you get the loudest noise when you sleep.
4) CDRT - you can only apply CDRT after you had tried all the above, + ask MP for help. CDRT is not easy, and is like e-filing. You need evidence. Then write a long report. As it is a govt report, your font, headings, evidence name, time all have to follow a guidance. It is like taking a degree report or master ya. CDRT - also may ask you all go CMC again. You can try to write to your MP. Mp asked you come down to queue for session. What can he/she do? Most is advise your neighbour to keep noise low. AND pissed your neighbour again. Cycle goes on.
5) Lawyer case - you need to ensure you did everything to solve, then you have solid evidence. This means you have to spend money to hire specialist to measure all the noise in your house. Then court case hiring a lawyer. Lawyer sends few letters to your noisy neighbour to ask them stop. This stage may incur like a $5K or more. Neighbour may hack and ignore. Then is court case; which may incur about $10K-$20K. Well, if heaven has eyes, you may win the court case. Then, court order pass down to say ok no noise from this time etc. My question is... who is to monitor that noisy neighbour keeps noise low??? YOU AGAIN! So is like back to square 1.
6) Btw, you can take the neighbour full name (owner of property) through IRAS website by paying $2.50. Maybe take full name and their resident address and hire thai monks/ or ppl who do black spells work? HAHA well, look like only ghosts can solve this problem. LOL.

I fully understand how frustrating of everybody is feeling due to noisy neighbour. I spoke to them (a family) humbly, and they told me is WIND for slam the doors. Well done right. They make noise from 10.30pm to 1.30am, then sometimes 3am and 6-7am. Slammed door, dropped heavy items, stamped feet etc.

Unfortunately, we r in this F**king city where the quality of H^B is lousy. All are lego make. Wall thinner, price more expensive. I had search a lot about noisy neighbour and apparently, many Ppl are suffering.

The ONLY way of solution is...
a) Buys highest floor (if u have spare cash after selling this damn unit). Yes water tank problem, but can be solved by HDB, right. Yes hot weather problem, but can be solved by fan and aircon, right. Loanshark problem, you can call police. It will be solved cos they are illegal. Yes maybe haunted house, well you can solve it by hiring monks or whatever to catch right. NOISY F**K neighbour - how to solve? They are legal, you cannot jailed them, you cannot hire monks to catch their souls.

b) Soundproof your house. Yes it will cost you a lot. AND yes, you have to suffer another round of renovation dirt and clean. Soundproof can only reduce 50%-70% of the noise. Also, suck workers to damage your current furniture and walls and drag to complete for 1 month or so. You need to have patience, time, money and luck that it works.

If only, we can have a blacklist of noisy neighbours. So that, they can only stay in 1st floor of HDB by law since they love to make noise. It wont happen thou,... dreaming.

Life in HDb.....