Agatha all Along

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Finished watching the final 2 episodes.

1. One cannot cheat Death.

2. It was indeed Agatha all along, as the title indicated.

3. Witches' Road composed by Lorna Wu was a lie.

I'm just curious how she conceived her son when she said she "made him from scratch"? As a witch, was she impregnated by a human man or did she use some spell to conceive her baby?
 

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Finished watching the final 2 episodes.

1. One cannot cheat Death.

2. It was indeed Agatha all along, as the title indicated.

3. Witches' Road composed by Lorna Wu was a lie.

I'm just curious how she conceived her son when she said she "made him from scratch"? As a witch, was she impregnated by a human man or did she use some spell to conceive her baby?

After star wars acolyte, anything is possible.
 

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Loki was the last MCU series I watched. Have to be selective with the garbage Disney is churning out.
 

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So Billy made up the whole thing like Wandavision so he could find a way to save his brother? The witches and death didn't really have a choice but become participants to help him unlock his power?

Seems like Agatha all along was the only one aware Billy was the manipulator. Ending is confusing, never explain what exactly happened.
 
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Finished watching the final 2 episodes.

1. One cannot cheat Death.

2. It was indeed Agatha all along, as the title indicated.

3. Witches' Road composed by Lorna Wu was a lie.

I'm just curious how she conceived her son when she said she "made him from scratch"? As a witch, was she impregnated by a human man or did she use some spell to conceive her baby?
I think Witches' Road was indeed just a song by Lorna Wu, it had no special meaning other than a poster in his room until Billy used it to manipulate the witches. Just like everything that happened were consciously or subconsciously recreated from all the things in his room.
 

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So Billy made up the whole thing like Wandavision so he could find a way to save his brother? The witches and death didn't really have a choice but become participants to help him unlock his power?

Seems like Agatha all along was the only one aware Billy was the manipulator. Ending is confusing, never explain what exactly happened.
death is buay song Billy cheated death
wanted to come take him but Agatha sacrificed instead
 

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I think the confusing part is whether if Billy is real, i mean i thought Wanda conjur them out of nowhere and it is just an illusion or something.
 

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death is buay song Billy cheated death
wanted to come take him but Agatha sacrificed instead
Edit: Ok in ep 9 she became a ghost, I thought this had 8 ep like usual disney shows.
 
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I think the confusing part is whether if Billy is real, i mean i thought Wanda conjur them out of nowhere and it is just an illusion or something.
Billy is real as in established by the comics as a reincarnation of wanda's son, but how he exists here is probably the twins have been given life like Vision but no real body outside of wanda's created west view unlike the rest of the people, hence they needed to be reincarnated into another body.
 

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Ah? Why the show never mention who is the father of Nicholas Scratch?
 

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Ready need to rewatch the whole 9 episodes all over again.

No cameo appearance from Wanda? Is she really dead?

No Myphisto also? Then why bother to NameDrop his name in earlier episode? :s22:
 

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I think Witches' Road was indeed just a song by Lorna Wu, it had no special meaning other than a poster in his room until Billy used it to manipulate the witches. Just like everything that happened were consciously or subconsciously recreated from all the things in his room.
Likely she just sang the song that was passed down in the realm of witches ever since Nicholas scratch performs to dupe the witches to be sacrificed to his mum?
death is buay song Billy cheated death
wanted to come take him but Agatha sacrificed instead
Among the dialogue it was mentioned billy have to go with death, else he will ongoing reincarnate. Not exactly sure. If billy is conjured up by Wanda and "cease to exist" when the hex is gone, literally he shouldn't "die"?
Billy is real as in established by the comics as a reincarnation of wanda's son, but how he exists here is probably the twins have been given life like Vision but no real body outside of wanda's created west view unlike the rest of the people, hence they needed to be reincarnated into another body.
Not sure if reincarnate includes transferring of soul to another body.


One thing the show didn't reveal is the dead body in ep1.
 

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Likely she just sang the song that was passed down in the realm of witches ever since Nicholas scratch performs to dupe the witches to be sacrificed to his mum?

Among the dialogue it was mentioned billy have to go with death, else he will ongoing reincarnate. Not exactly sure. If billy is conjured up by Wanda and "cease to exist" when the hex is gone, literally he shouldn't "die"?

Not sure if reincarnate includes transferring of soul to another body.


One thing the show didn't reveal is the dead body in ep1.
Yeah, early in the show mentioned Lorna Wu sang the most popular version of the song. But it is because Billy has heard of it as a pop song and have the poster in his bedroom that his mind subconsciously created the witches road.

The way I can think of explaining is everyone in Wandavision's conjured West View continued to exist because they had real bodies before Wanda cast her spell. The twins exist in the multiverse as shown in Dr Strange so they are not made up but they don't exist in this Wanda's world since she didn't have children so they have no physical bodies to exist in except under Wanda's spell but had no bodies after her spell disappeared.
 

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Actually what was the original pact between Agatha and Rio?

Agatha promised to kill witches for her in exchange of what? Her son’s life?

Then earlier it was mentioned she made a deal to give up her son’s life in exchange of the darkhold?

So which is which?
 
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