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WussRedXLi

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Anyway, this is the Samo Air with Plantower G3 laser particle counter module. Vs the 5-digit TSI. Comparison is done where in SG with Indonesia biomass haze.

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Note, the below is the Samo Air with Sharp IR LED diode sensor. Not the Samo Air with Plantower G3 laser particle counter module which is a true laser diode module. I have tried detecting with cigarette smoke, which is 0.1 to 0.3 microns range predominantly > 90% of the smoke distribution range, absolutely no issue. Also Taobao HEPA can filter this range ok, absolutely no issue, tried and measured and tested.




http://www.chengduliving.com/samoair-review/

Measuring PM2.5 for 200rmb: the SamoAir Review

A commenter below revealed that the Sharp particle detector within this device (Sharp GP2Y1010AU) cannot detect particles as small as pm2.5, so this device is not suitable for detecting those values. It still works for detecting larger particles.

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Spend some time in Chengdu and you might find that the most common concern among expat residents is the polluted air. Many of us track pollutant levels using our smartphones everyday, wear protective masks when running or cycling, and outfit our homes with low (and high) cost air filters and automation systems.

For me, the next step after setting up filters and automation in my home was to measure indoor pollutant levels myself to identify and troubleshoot potential problems. A common and trustworthy device used to measure air pollutants is the Dylos 1100, which is American-made and costs around $300 on Taobao depending on the options you select (like an optional PC interface for downloading graphs).

Although data gathered from the Dylos is rock-solid (it’s what Smart Air uses to gather data for their Particle Counting blog), the cost is high. Surprisingly, I was able to find something 1/10th the cost on Taobao called the SamoAir: an unadorned circuit board encased in clear plastic. Does it work and is it worth the cost?


Overview & Features

The SamoAir is a tiny, imported monitoring device made by Sharp, attached to a circuit board with a small LCD display and an optional battery pack. It comes pre-assembled and operation couldn’t be much simpler: you plug it into a power source using the supplied USB cable and within seconds it begins displaying data.

It’s important to note that the SamoAir only displays PM2.5 levels, displayed in the form of microns per cubic meter (µg/m3). This is a different value than the US and Chinese government commonly use to report pollutant levels (which is an aggregate value derived from a handful of pollutants called the AQI, or Air Quality Index). The SamoAir is probably best for relative measurements in situations like:
•Measuring indoor air quality before and after turning your air filters on
•How pollution fluctuates before and after rainfall
•Indoor pollution versus outdoor pollution, and so on

With the supplied battery pack it’s easy to measure pollution anywhere you go.

Interpreting SamoAir’s Data

Not only do you get a real-time readout of the current PM2.5 level, but after the device has been powered on for 12 minutes, it begins also displaying average particle levels in 12 minute increments by way of a blinking LED light. Green means the air quality is good, read means it’s bad, and a combination of lights can mean “Escape, Now” (direct translation from the product description).

Here’s what color coded averages look like:

Excellent quality: green light (0-35)
Good quality: yellow light (35-75)
Lightly polluted: red light (75-115)
Polluted: green & red light (115-150)
Heavily polluted: yellow & red light (150-250)
Escape suggested: green, yellow & red light (250+)

In my use, I almost never found air quality in Chengdu to be within the “Excellent” range, even after rainfall. With doors and windows closed an an air filter running, I got values within the 0-35 µg/m3 range, but ordinary indoor measurements were ordinarily within the 55 – 80 range. Values from inside second ring road were significantly higher than on the outskirts of the city, where pollution was lower in the Tianfu Software Park or the Xindu suburb outside of Chengdu’s third ring road.

omparing with Online Data

Although AQI is the most commonly-referenced indicator of air quality by governments, PM2.5 values are available for over 100 cities at this website: China PM2.5 Monitoring Net

Air quality values measured by the SamoAir sitting on my open window sill were almost identical to real-time figures from the US Consulate with less than 2% variation. Although proximity to testing cites could be partly responsible, these values were around 25-70% higher than real-time PM2.5 data provided by the Chengdu local government.

Here’s the pitch from the product page:

Need a device that collects identical data to official pollution-monitoring sites? You will spend tens of thousands of dollars on testing equipment and need to set it up directly next to an official testing site.

Are you a local boss with plenty of cash? You’ll want an imported device like a Dylos, or industrial equipment which will cost hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Want to measure pollutant levels indoors, or check the effectiveness of your air filter? This is the device for you.

SamoAir Product Page Translated

Here’s what you’ll find on the Taobao product page, translated into English:
•We cannot keep up with demand, and as a result, these ship 10-15 days after ordering. Regarding accuracy, each of these are hand tuned and there is slight deviation from unit to unit.
•Check this website for PM 2.5 figures by city, but remember that these are different from frequently-referenced AQI figures: http://www.cnpm25.cn
•The SamoAir is intended to be used for daily observation of pollution levels in homes, offices, and cars. Measurements taken outside may not be accurate due to weather and wind conditions, but the sensor can be fined tuned to your needs and use.
•If, for anyone reason, you aren’t satisfied, we offer a 30 day back guarantee, along with a one-year warranty.

Conclusion & Link

Considering the price of the SamoAir, it’s hard to imagine a particle measuring device that provides more value than this. If you have one or more air filters in your home and want to test their effectiveness, this is the cheapest and simplest way to do that.

You won’t be able to chart changes in air quality over time or measure pm10 pollution, but for basic needs, this will have you covered. For an extra 30rmb, it’s worth springing for the internal battery pack which allows you to gather data from anywhere without a power source: SamoAir particule measuring device on Taobao.

Someone compared the Sharp IR sensor with a Dylos DC1100
Works pretty for PM0.5

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http://www.howmuchsnow.com/arduino/airquality/
 

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The seller that I recommended only does 35mm, 45mm and 60mm. Cannot do 50mm. Other customisers maybe would do that.

Not much difference lah, no worries.

In fact, if you see this, 439 m3/hr vs 323 m3/hr....the difference is only by a few minutes from 1000 ug/m3 -> 1 ug/m3. 35 mins vs 28 mins.

It is done by a pro lab with TSI equipment. 30 cu metre room.

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Thanks once again. Will do up 45mm then :s13:
 

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Someone compared the Sharp IR sensor with a Dylos DC1100
Works pretty for PM0.5

sharpdyloscompare2.gif


http://www.howmuchsnow.com/arduino/airquality/

It might not be 0.5 microns. Might be a mix of 2.5 microns thereabouts and smaller 0.5 microns. The Sharp specsheet did specify 1 micron, if I remember correctly.

Need a more "acid" test like cigarette smoke, in which the particle size distribution is known. He used matchstick smoke which is fine, but he did
not control the smoke nicely enough I guess.


But in any case, the Sharp sensor can tell pretty well the haze levels in Singapore. Due to the direct rise/fall relationship between PM10 and PM2.5. If we are farther away or closer to the hotspots, for eg Palembang, it might be a wee bit different.


QUOTE : With the inexpensive Sharp sensor, I wanted to see how sensitive it was and I wanted to try to correlate the voltage to some meaningful metric. I tried a quick match test (blew out a match and let the smoke go over the sensor). The smoke quickly saturated the sensor. I wanted a longer term test. After seeing that the dylos sensor could see my daughter cooking lunch, I decided to do a "pan cake" test. Did you ever notice that after making pancakes in an old cast iron fry pan with butter, that the kitchen hazes up. I set up both the Dylos and Sharp sensors to capture the data to Pachube. This allowed me to compare/calibrate the sensors.
 

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Hmmmmm check w bro having Samsung AX40, my son room I air the room whole day and just close it and full blast the AP, within 10min it turn red to blue.

Questions, the ax40 so efficient? I mean I got 2 but compare to the Philip 4026 which takes 30 to 45min to clean the same room, the AX40 is so powerful and efficient? not that i doubt it but learning more AP :)
 
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Hmmmmm check w bro having Samsung AX40, my son room I air the room whole day and just close it and full blast the AP, within 10min it turn red to blue.

Questions, the ax40 so efficient? I mean I got 2 but compare to the Philip 4026 which takes 30 to 45min to clean the same room, the AX40 is so powerful and efficient? not that i doubt it but learning more AP :)

AX40 Cadr - 323m3/h (from WRX)
4206 Cadr - 153m3/h

AX40 can push 110% more clean air than 4206.

It also flowrate not just filter efficiency.
 
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It might not be 0.5 microns. Might be a mix of 2.5 microns thereabouts and smaller 0.5 microns. The Sharp specsheet did specify 1 micron, if I remember correctly.

Need a more "acid" test like cigarette smoke, in which the particle size distribution is known. He used matchstick smoke which is fine, but he did
not control the smoke nicely enough I guess.


But in any case, the Sharp sensor can tell pretty well the haze levels in Singapore. Due to the direct rise/fall relationship between PM10 and PM2.5. If we are farther away or closer to the hotspots, for eg Palembang, it might be a wee bit different.


QUOTE : With the inexpensive Sharp sensor, I wanted to see how sensitive it was and I wanted to try to correlate the voltage to some meaningful metric. I tried a quick match test (blew out a match and let the smoke go over the sensor). The smoke quickly saturated the sensor. I wanted a longer term test. After seeing that the dylos sensor could see my daughter cooking lunch, I decided to do a "pan cake" test. Did you ever notice that after making pancakes in an old cast iron fry pan with butter, that the kitchen hazes up. I set up both the Dylos and Sharp sensors to capture the data to Pachube. This allowed me to compare/calibrate the sensors.

Tried blowing out a candle and the sensor does max out at 600ug/m3.
 

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Hmmmmm check w bro having Samsung AX40, my son room I air the room whole day and just close it and full blast the AP, within 10min it turn red to blue.

Questions, the ax40 so efficient? I mean I got 2 but compare to the Philip 4026 which takes 30 to 45min to clean the same room, the AX40 is so powerful and efficient? not that i doubt it but learning more AP :)

Very small room with aircon. (btw, any room with no aircon also has a slight decay over time even without a person, point is, the aircon is not the only determinant)

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AX40 Cadr - 323m3/h (from WRX)
4206 Cadr - 153m3/h

AX40 can push 110% more clean air than 4206.

It also flowrate not just filter efficiency.

Thanks bro for the prompt reply. For a while I tot the sensor spoilt LOL.
 

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Tried blowing out a candle and the sensor does max out at 600ug/m3.

That's the extremely high level "sensitivity" eg @ 600 ug/,3, in which any sensor would be able to detect it. For example, I use ultrafine particles 0.03 microns to test the Plantower G1 (sensitive to 0.3 microns) at a very high level (3000 ug/m3) and it probably would give some reading as well.

If interested, you may wish to do testing on the lower end sensitivity. However, without a reference source, you may not get the correct absolute levels, though it would show up in a graph.

Eg at 30 ug/m3 down to 1 ug/m3. Actually my point is that it would be sensitive to a certain threshold/cutoff. Problem is, how accurate (not saying that the Plantower G1/G3 are very accurate LOL!).


Eg a 6 inch cone driver in a sealed box with 5mm Xmax excursion can do 20Hz. But can't do it as efficient/high SPL as a 18 incher.


I do have a meter with the Sharp, unfortunately the lower end is F-ed up, it does not drop below 15 ug/m3. :s13: I got it for RMB 100 only.
I tried blowing high velocity air through it, no love. Another bro (bro someperson) messed up his Plantower G1 with cooking oil vapours but managed to salvage it via blowing air through it.


Anyway, talking about sensitivity

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I am using Sharp FU-A28.
is it best to get Fellowes-HF-230 from amazon?
any custom made filter from taobao?

I'd highly recommend this HEPA filter.

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As measured, the efficiency is about 96-97% at about 0.3-0.5 microns. So this is H11. This is using PP media.
Wind flow is decent in the Sharp A28, nearly the same as the expensive PP+PET type (eg Fellowes).

6pcs is only about 2.5kg weight, or SGD13 shipping via 4PX from SZ to SIN.

This works out to be slightly under SGD9 per piece.
Just nice the for Sharp A28, which some have paid SGD99 for.
Cheap enough to use for 6 months and dispose.

As usual, need to pad the sides with some tissue to prevent bypass. And trim a bit (2 minute job)

I think for A28 this filter should be okie? :s11:
 

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Order name list :
AX40 (310mm x 281mm x 45mm)
Ralliart_Ray x 1 ok
John doe 84 x 2 ok
Dennis x 2 ok
Ong H.C x 2 ok
jardine3000 x 2 ok
derazor x 1 ok
meesoto x 2 ok
defytherules x 2
skyiee x 2
GaaraOfTheSand x 2
IDZetc x 2 ok
cyno505 x 2 ok
Linusz x 2 ok
JoePilot x 2 ok

Sharp KC-A40E
(370mm x 234mm x 45mm).
idiots x 2 (Will be order with AX40)

(Total : 28pcs Order as soon)

(Pending for next shipment)
Spawnstar x 2
Silverspy x 2
m9kky x 2
Elyn Lee x 1
Iamnagel x 2 ok
Tony Choo x 1

(Pending for reply)
JadziaK x 2
Asure7 x 1
idiots x 2
Whitesand x2


DIY 300x300x25mm (no edge)
martintylor x 2pc (confirmed)

Sharp 180 (380x240x35mm)
SNAFU x 2 (Confirmed)
derazor x 2 (Confirmed)
RalliFTO x 1 (Pending for reply)
 
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Order name list :
AX40 (310mm x 281mm x 45mm)
Ralliart_Ray x 1 ok
John doe 84 x 2 ok
Dennis x 2 ok
Ong H.C x 2 ok
jardine3000 x 2 ok
derazor x 1 ok
meesoto x 2 ok
defytherules x 2
skyiee x 2
GaaraOfTheSand x 2
IDZetc x 2 ok
cyno505 x 2 ok
Linusz x 2 ok
JoePilot x 2 ok

Sharp KC-A40E
(370mm x 234mm x 45mm).
idiots x 2 (Will be order with AX40)

(Total : 28pcs Order as soon)

(Pending for next shipment)
Spawnstar x 2
Silverspy x 2
m9kky x 2
Elyn Lee x 1
Iamnagel x 1 ok
Tony Choo x 1

(Pending for reply)
JadziaK x 2
Asure7 x 1
idiots x 2
Whitesand x2


DIY 300x300x25mm (no edge)
martintylor x 2pc (confirmed)

Sharp 180 (380x240x35mm)
SNAFU x 2 (Confirmed)
derazor x 2 (Confirmed)
RalliFTO x 1 (Pending for reply)

sure ordered alot :s12: :D
 

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Order name list :
AX40 (310mm x 281mm x 45mm)
Ralliart_Ray x 1 ok
John doe 84 x 2 ok
Dennis x 2 ok
Ong H.C x 2 ok
jardine3000 x 2 ok
derazor x 1 ok
meesoto x 2 ok
defytherules x 2
skyiee x 2
GaaraOfTheSand x 2
IDZetc x 2 ok
cyno505 x 2 ok
Linusz x 2 ok
JoePilot x 2 ok

Sharp KC-A40E
(370mm x 234mm x 45mm).
idiots x 2 (Will be order with AX40)

(Total : 28pcs Order as soon)

(Pending for next shipment)
Spawnstar x 2
Silverspy x 2
m9kky x 2
Elyn Lee x 1
Iamnagel x 2 ok
Tony Choo x 1

(Pending for reply)
JadziaK x 2
Asure7 x 1
idiots x 2
Whitesand x2


DIY 300x300x25mm (no edge)
martintylor x 2pc (confirmed)

Sharp 180 (380x240x35mm)
SNAFU x 2 (Confirmed)
derazor x 2 (Confirmed)
RalliFTO x 1 (Pending for reply)

I would like to order "DIY 300x300x25mm (no edge)" for my Sharp A28, is it possible to ask for customization for (310*285*25) instead?

if not order as follow,

2 x 300x300x25mm (no edge)
2 x AX40 (310mm x 281mm x 45mm)

Thank you! :s12:
 
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