Amazon eero Wireless Devices: Master Thread

[xiaofan]

1) I can not find any good info about whether Amazon eero TrueMesh supports any of the standard 802.11 k/v/r standards or not.
https://eero.com/en-GB/technology

2) Typically consumer mesh technology like Asus AIMesh and TP-Link Deco will be based on 802.11 k/v (sometimes also 802.11r), then adding proprietary mesh technology. 802.11s is mentioned to be used by Google's Mesh solution.

OpenWRT mesh guide, mainly using 802.11s
https://openwrt.org/docs/guide-user/network/wifi/mesh/start

OpenWRT Wi-Fi Roaming using 802.11 k/v/r
https://openwrt.org/docs/guide-user/network/wifi/roaming

3) Some experts are saying as long as the nodes support 802.11 k/v, then the roaming performance will not be bad even if mixing different nodes (all nodes in AP mode, or except the main node).

4) Then some experts like to DIY, changing the placement, transmission power and frequency band, to try to achieve seamless roaming. They do not care about 802.11 k/v/t or 802.11s.

5) To layman, I think it is better to use the same vendor's same mesh technology.

For example, TP-Link has different mesh technologies and they do not recommend users to mix different mesh technology.
https://www.tp-link.com/sg/support/faq/3749/

 

[BBCWatcher]

1) I can not find any good info about whether Amazon eero TrueMesh supports any of the standard 802.11 k/v/r standards or not.
https://eero.com/en-GB/technology

Yes, they do. Check eero's release notes. For example, they introduced 802.11k and 802.11v support in October, 2021. They started supporting 802.11r in June, 2017.

2) Typically consumer mesh technology like Asus AIMesh and TP-Link Deco will be based on 802.11 k/v (sometimes also 802.11r), then adding proprietary mesh technology. 802.11s is mentioned to be used by Google's Mesh solution.

No single vendor controls wireless clients. You have to support at least 802.11r if you want wireless clients to hop from radio to radio more quickly. (802.11k and 802.11v are less important, and some clients don't support those protocols.)

3) Some experts are saying as long as the nodes support 802.11 k/v, then the roaming performance will not be bad even if mixing different nodes (all nodes in AP mode, or except the main node).

The OpenWrt community consensus is that 802.11r is the most important protocol for roaming, and I think I agree with that. I've never seen 802.11k/v supported without 802.11r, but maybe I haven't looked hard enough.

802.11s is an attempt to get some multi-vendor standardization, but it doesn't seem to have caught on.

4) Then some experts like to DIY, changing the placement, transmission power and frequency band, to try to achieve seamless roaming. They do not care about 802.11 k/v/t or 802.11s.

That's really a different thing, albeit related. You can have a wireless network with 802.11r/k/v — with some protocol such as 802.11s providing coordination between access points — and still manually tweak aspects of your network (channel widths, transmission power outputs, channel selections including possible DFS channel rescans and resets, etc.) I do that, actually. Eero devices specifically won't let you do that. They try to optimize for the local environment automatically and don't include many manual overrides.

5) To layman, I think it is better to use the same vendor's same mesh technology.

Yes, absolutely. With wired backhauls if at all possible. (Use MoCA 2.5 adapters if you have coax ports and don't want to run new wires.)

For example, TP-Link has different mesh technologies and they do not recommend users to mix different mesh technology.
https://www.tp-link.com/sg/support/faq/3749/

I suppose a notable exception is OpenWrt. That is, it's the firmware that matters, not the actual manufacturer of the device itself. And I suppose MikroTik's RouterOS is another exception since it can run on some non-MikroTik equipment such as a mini PC.

 

[teoma]

Thinking to get Eero Max 7, seeing them pop up on Carousell nowadays. Are the Eeros locked or branded by any chance? Have heard horror stories in the US about these branded versions and wonder if the same applies if bought from a customer who got it from their ISP here in SG?

 

[BBCWatcher]

Thinking to get Eero Max 7, seeing them pop up on Carousell nowadays. Are the Eeros locked or branded by any chance?

Not really. If the prior owner has set up the eero device and has not removed it from their Amazon account, the new owner cannot set up the device. Otherwise there shouldn't be any problem.

 

[xiaofan]

Not really. If the prior owner has set up the eero device and has not removed it from their Amazon account, the new owner cannot set up the device. Otherwise there shouldn't be any problem.

Some reports over the internet say Hard Reset may work in this case. But some other reports say Hard Reset does not work since the serial number is part of the registration.

In the end it is better to confirm with the seller that they have removed the eero from their Amazon account before buying to avoid troubles.

 

[SpicyBird]

How is eero max 7 compared to tp link archer be805?

 

[BBCWatcher]

How is eero max 7 compared to tp link archer be805?

Superficially they’re broadly similar. The BE805 has 2 additional “slow” Ethernet ports, but the eero Max 7’s “slow” ports are 2.5GBASE-T instead of 1000BASE-T. The Max 7 lacks the BE805’s USB port. Amazon will almost certainly ship security updates longer than TP-Link will. However, the BE805 seems likely to get OpenWrt support at some point. Amazon’s firmware offers basic functions with a subscription required for “advanced” features.

 

[teoma]

Not really. If the prior owner has set up the eero device and has not removed it from their Amazon account, the new owner cannot set up the device. Otherwise there shouldn't be any problem.

Thanks! Used to be you could set up Eero without an Amazon account, just an Eero account. Is that no longer the case?

Some reports over the internet say Hard Reset may work in this case. But some other reports say Hard Reset does not work since the serial number is part of the registration.

In the end it is better to confirm with the seller that they have removed the eero from their Amazon account before buying to avoid troubles.

Cool, as long as it's not branded to eight (or any ISP), that should be viable.

Superficially they’re broadly similar. The BE805 has 2 additional “slow” Ethernet ports, but the eero Max 7’s “slow” ports are 2.5GBASE-T instead of 1000BASE-T. The Max 7 lacks the BE805’s USB port. Amazon will almost certainly ship security updates longer than TP-Link will. However, the BE805 seems likely to get OpenWrt support at some point. Amazon’s firmware offers basic functions with a subscription required for “advanced” features.

I've heard connectivity issues with the BE805 but that was about a year or so back. I guess it's improved since then?

 

[BBCWatcher]

Thanks! Used to be you could set up Eero without an Amazon account, just an Eero account. Is that no longer the case?

That’s a good point. The previous owner must remove the eero device from their eero-only or Amazon account, whichever they’re using.

 

[teoma]

Not really. If the prior owner has set up the eero device and has not removed it from their Amazon account, the new owner cannot set up the device. Otherwise there shouldn't be any problem.

Some reports over the internet say Hard Reset may work in this case. But some other reports say Hard Reset does not work since the serial number is part of the registration.

In the end it is better to confirm with the seller that they have removed the eero from their Amazon account before buying to avoid troubles.

thinking to get eero Max 7. I've seen that ViewQuest eero's are branded in the app, so even if you have non-branded eero (say you bought directly from Amazon), they will show the ViewQuest branding.

Is eight eero also the same in terms of branding in the app?

Can you mix and match eero with different ISP branding?

Any risk in purchasing these branded units? I hear in the US, the ISP could remotely disable units, wondering if it would be the same issue or has anyone run into that issue here?

To clarify: this is assuming that the owner has not used/paired eero to their account, and it's brand new, but with ISP branding.

 

[kEvinErd]

thinking to get eero Max 7. I've seen that ViewQuest eero's are branded in the app, so even if you have non-branded eero (say you bought directly from Amazon), they will show the ViewQuest branding.

Is eight eero also the same in terms of branding in the app?

Can you mix and match eero with different ISP branding?

Any risk in purchasing these branded units? I hear in the US, the ISP could remotely disable units, wondering if it would be the same issue or has anyone run into that issue here?

To clarify: this is assuming that the owner has not used/paired eero to their account, and it's brand new, but with ISP branding.

Can’t answer all of your questions but I got two Eeros from Eight working just fine on my StarHub broadband. And yes, there’s Eight branding inside the Eero app (but not on the exterior of the hardware itself).

 

[BBCWatcher]

If you'd like to augment your eero network with another eero wireless router (or access point), Amazon's own deep discount U.S. storefront Woot.com is selling factory reconditioned eero 6 series devices at very attractive prices. Prices after discount range from US$35.09 for the eero 6 to US$80.99 for the eero Pro 6E. Shipping is US$6, and then you'd pay for GST and ezShip.

I suggest avoiding the eero Pro 6 since it's likely to stop receiving firmware updates on July 13, 2030. All the others will receive firmware updates through at least August 31, 2031 (current end date, likely to be extended).

Eeros interoperate with each other, so this Woot sale could be an economical way to obtain a "gap filler" eero for your home, a family member's home (such as an elder's), or a small business location.

 

[BBCWatcher]

UPDATE: The eero Pro 6E is sold out at Woot. If you're still looking for a bargain on an eero wireless router (perhaps to add another access point to an eero network you already have), I think the next best choice is the eero 6 for US$35.09 (plus ezShip and GST). Singapore doesn't have any 160 MHz wide non-DFS channels in the 5 GHz band, so that "feature" is pointless as I see it — and means the eero 6+ isn't worth the extra cost IMHO. The eero Pro 6 (US$62.99) is no longer sold new direct from Amazon, so its support clock is winding down: it will stop receiving security updates on July 13, 2030.

 

[BBCWatcher]

Belated update: on April 22, 2026, the U.S. Federal Communications Commission granted conditional approval for continued importation and sale of eero devices through at least October 31, 2027. This news doesn’t directly affect Singapore-based eero owners, but it provides Amazon with somewhat greater assurance that their eero business unit can continue to operate in its largest market.

 

[BBCWatcher]

Amazon regularly pushes out the "End of Life" dates for eero devices in keeping with its promise of at least 5 years of security updates after last direct retail sale, per model. All eero models with "6" or "7" in their names now should receive security updates through at least September 30, 2031, with one exception: the eero Pro 6 (July 13, 2030).

It's hard to predict the future, but please note that the eero Pro 6 was the highest priced model in the eero 6 model lineup. It seems counterintuitive, but don't be surprised if the eero Max 7 ends up with a shorter security lifespan than the rest of the eero 7 model range. Weigh this prediction in your buying decisions however you wish.

Eeros continue to function after Amazon stops releasing firmware updates, but they are potentially vulnerable to attackers. Alternative community-based firmware (such as OpenWrt) for eero devices is extremely unlikely due to Amazon's lockouts and chipset choices.

 

[BBCWatcher]

Amazon's deep discount outlet Woot.com has more stock of eero devices, and the prices are close to what they were in the previous sale. The best bargain (for reasons mentioned upthread) is the eero 6 at US$38.99.

 

[BBCWatcher]

Woot.com now offers the eero 6+ for US$29.99 each. You'll see the discount after adding the item to your cart. Coupon code MISSC84RVD34 should knock another US$10 off the price. You might have to pay US$6 for shipping within the U.S., and you'll also pay for ezShip and 9% import duty (GST equivalent). But this offer is quite amazing.

 

[keenklee]

IMHO.
I was reading the FAQ for Eight Broadband.
Eero Plus ( formely known as Eero Secure ) is free.


What is eero Secure?
eero Plus is an extra security package that adds advanced protection, privacy tools, and parental controls to your network. As an eight Broadband mesh customer, you get eero Plus 100% FREE for your entire contract period!

What features come with eero Secure?
You get total protection:

Advanced Security: Automatically blocks unsafe and harmful websites.
Parental Controls: Filter inappropriate content to keep the family safe online.
Ad Blocking: Blocks annoying pop ups and ads across all your devices.
Password Manager: Keeps your logins safe, secure, and easy to find.
Antivirus Software: Extra defense against malware and online threats.
Built in VPN: Browse privately powered by Guardian VPN.
VIP WiFi Support: Skip the queue for priority help from eero tech experts.


Source - https://www.eight.com.sg/help/broadband

 

[xiaofan]

eero Secure is free for MyRepublic provided eero Wi-Fi 7 routers as well.

MR has pretty good documentation and setup guide
https://support.myrepublic.net/en/articles/15896549-eero-pro-7-10gbps

eero Secure​

eero Secure is a software license that unlocks enhanced network management capabilities. One of the key differentiators for buying an eero through you (should be MR) is that all
devices come with eero Secure included as default.

• Advanced Security - Protect your devices from malicious sites.
• Parental Controls - Helps keep your kids safe on the web.
• Internet Backup - Set up a nearby mobile hotspot or wifi network as
  a backup when your wired internet goes down.

 

[xiaofan]

Some good info for local ISP issued eero wireless routers.

If you’re considering network devices that don’t have independent community firmware options, Amazon is currently promising security updates for all eero 6 and 7 series products (except the eero Pro 6) through at least September 30, 2031. (The eero Pro 6 ends on July 13, 2030.) But that date will surely shift out since the actual promise is for at least 5 years from last new retail sale from Amazon. The TP-Link Archer BE450 is among the many OpenWrt compatible wireless routers if you want something with an independent firmware option — and OpenWrt updates probably for a decade or more to come.

The only concern is about the ISP version. It is not very clear if the ISP version of eero routers are compatible with each other or not when forming a mesh.

eero Pro 7 10Gbps seems to be only offered by the local ISPs here in Singapore.

Not so sure about eero 7 sold by the ISPs is ISP version or consumer version.

No, it's fine. Amazon maintains its security lifecycle commitments regardless of who supplies your eero device. TP-Link (for example) offers some routers with ISP-specific model designators, firmware builds, and/or firmware release streams. Amazon doesn't have any separate firmware builds, release streams, or service commitments per ISP. Outside Singapore some ISP-supplied eeros are effectively locked to the specific ISP, but Amazon's service commitment still applies — assuming you stay with that ISP and can actually get updates.

The eero Pro 7 with 10GBASE-T ports is a separate "submodel," but it's still subject to Amazon's minimum 5 year security service commitment. Amazon is not distinguishing between eero Pro 7 submodels for security lifespan purposes. Sometimes Amazon distinguishes between hardware variants — for example, between the eero 6 and the eero 6 Extender. (The eero 6 Extender omits the eero 6's Ethernet ports.) The eero 6 and eero 6 Extender could end up with different security end dates since they're separately listed.

The eero Pro 7 with 10GBASE-T ports launched in Singapore first (lucky us!), but it's now popping up in other countries from other ISPs.