AMD Ryzen CPUs for Virtulization

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Hi guys

I am intending to purchase a budget AMD laptop and run a couple of VMs for application development and testing.

Like to know if anyone has used desktops or laptops with AMD CPUs for light-weight virtualization purpose. Are there issues with running hypervisors (E.g. Vmware, hyper-v and virtualbox). How is the performance as compared with similar intel chipsets?



Thanks in advance.
 

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my main workstation is asus x470-f rog and ryzen 2600x, using vmware workstation. no issues.
upcoming server, Asrock X470D4u and ryzen 2700x, with Unraid (KVM). Other people operate similar setup. I don't see any issues.
Hi guys

I am intending to purchase a budget AMD laptop and run a couple of VMs for application development and testing.

Like to know if anyone has used desktops or laptops with AMD CPUs for light-weight virtualization purpose. Are there issues with running hypervisors (E.g. Vmware, hyper-v and virtualbox). How is the performance as compared with similar intel chipsets?



Thanks in advance.
 

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For laptops, make sure to get the new 4000 series CPUs.

At work, I run 16 VMS simultaneously on a Threadripper rig. It's been running rock solid and I connect to it via VPN to run simulation tasks.
 

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For laptops, make sure to get the new 4000 series CPUs.

At work, I run 16 VMS simultaneously on a Threadripper rig. It's been running rock solid and I connect to it via VPN to run simulation tasks.

Thanks bro. Btw what hypervisor are you using ? Is this a server or workstation rig?
 
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Hi guys

I am intending to purchase a budget AMD laptop and run a couple of VMs for application development and testing.

Like to know if anyone has used desktops or laptops with AMD CPUs for light-weight virtualization purpose. Are there issues with running hypervisors (E.g. Vmware, hyper-v and virtualbox). How is the performance as compared with similar intel chipsets?

Thanks in advance.

:s8:
AMD Laptop?
Moi using Ryzen 3500U with 8GB
2GB used for Onboard GPU.
Left 6GB.
Max I can only allocate 3GB to VMware.
Only 1x RAM Slot.
 

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Hi guys

I am intending to purchase a budget AMD laptop and run a couple of VMs for application development and testing.

Like to know if anyone has used desktops or laptops with AMD CPUs for light-weight virtualization purpose. Are there issues with running hypervisors (E.g. Vmware, hyper-v and virtualbox). How is the performance as compared with similar intel chipsets?



Thanks in advance.

There are red flags in your ask here,.. budget laptop are generally NOT recommended for running VM's.

When you install VM's you generally allocate resources (mainly CPU & RAM) so unless your VM's requirement is minimal I would not recommend running it on a budget laptop. If anything a high end laptop is preferred.

For running VM's having more cores generally means better performance so I would always choose AMD over Intel here. Hope this helps to align your expectations.
 

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AMD Laptop?
Moi using Ryzen 3500U with 8GB
2GB used for Onboard GPU.
Left 6GB.
Max I can only allocate 3GB to VMware.
Only 1x RAM Slot.

Your fault for buying a cheapo laptop. Doesn't mean all AMD laptops are like that.
 
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Your fault for buying a cheapo laptop. Doesn't mean all AMD laptops are like that.

SGD$500 only.
Bought during sale.
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Not my fault, cos my main machine is Ryzen 2700x with 32GB RAM.
This laptop I buy as spare only cos its cheap.
 

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AMD Laptop?
Moi using Ryzen 3500U with 8GB
2GB used for Onboard GPU.
Left 6GB.
Max I can only allocate 3GB to VMware.
Only 1x RAM Slot.

u should check the internal before buying laptop, alot ppl just see spec and appearance.
 
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u should check the internal before buying laptop, alot ppl just see spec and appearance.

I did check before hand.
$500 only I cannot hiam.
At least its not fixed solder ram.
So I can still go 16GB single slot ram if I want.
Alot are KNS 1x 4GB fixed solder ram and 1x up-gradable Ram Slot
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Back to my point in that Budget laptops are a big NO NO for virtualization. 16Gb RAM is the absolute minimum ram to run a VM as the host will need to take a fair bit of RAM and depending on what ur doing on the host machine (assuming work, email etc) then your not going to be left with much for HD VM.

If ur having to squeeze the host to the bare minimum to run a VM then your defeating the object of the VM in the first place - might as well run the software directly on the laptop and remove the host OS
 

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Hi Guys

Thanks for the response.

Are there anyone out there who have also used the below methods

1. Store the VMs on external USB-C NVME SSDs and power-up the VMs from these devices.

2. External USB-C NVME SSDs, with OS installed (Not really virtualization but yeah gives me a 2nd OS for pure development)


Hows the performance? And because NVME SSDs are so fast, has anyone tried allocating less RAM (2GB or 4GB) and allow windows to flow over paging memory onto the SSDs itself?

Thanks
 
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It does work, just boot time is slower. Do NOT skimp on RAM, your nvme is bottlenecked by USB-c. You want to minimize paging.
 

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Yes I agree on the RAM statement. For VM’s to really work they need to have the real world recommended RAM allocated. Do not go for the minimum requirements as the performance will suffer.
 
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