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[NightRaven49]

Nice specs. About 1.1?

I wish they didn't tie the IR cam and the 400nits display to the WWAN module, or the 32GB RAM upgrade to the Ryzen 7 processor.

yesterday was $1014, today check again was about $1050 apparently they increase the sales price.

ya i thought 400nits was +$40 only, come out add a whole lot of nonsense also, not only wwan come out but also got ir camera, both of which i dont need and really quite ex. but 300 nits will still be an upgrade for me.

 

[firesong]

yesterday was $1014, today check again was about $1050 apparently they increase the sales price.

ya i thought 400nits was +$40 only, come out add a whole lot of nonsense also, not only wwan come out but also got ir camera, both of which i dont need and really quite ex. but 300 nits will still be an upgrade for me.

That's true. 300 nits isn't enough for me since my desk is by the window, so I work in very bright conditions more often than I would like (My MBP is currently on 80% brightness because of the sun). I am on the fence over touchscreens for two reasons, 1) higher power draw, and 2) I do not have confidence in soft-touch screens. Too many people press too hard because we're "trained" to use glass touch screens these days, and reading a lot of comments online turns up some user damage because of unnecessary force using the touchscreens. The worst part, it's not the owners themselves but the people around them that cause the damage - their kids, family, relatives, colleagues, classmates, etc... I recall reading somewhere that Lenovo considers this kind of excessive force damage not covered by warranty.

The IR camera is a nice to have actually, although the fingerprint sensor is more than good enough.

I got stuck with the WWAN card, but I'll consider it a bonus if I find that I need data mobility. LTE data SIM cards are cheap these days, and with TPG you can get 20GB for $10/mo. Mostly though it'll be disabled for battery conservation reasons.

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Edit:
Should've just bought. I don't expect the price to drop any more though. Having pricing issues myself with Lenovo due to the sharp price drops, and the staff admit to being overwhelmed by the requests because the drops are significant.

Plus I forgot to key in the agent ID, since he gave me the BIGSALES code that I shared here, so I wanted to credit him with the sale. He deserves it.

 

[halocast]

tempted to get yoga slim 7 cause of 4800u

so far no thinkpads in sg got 4800u option right?

 

[firesong]

tempted to get yoga slim 7 cause of 4800u

so far no thinkpads in sg got 4800u option right?

Didn't see any when I was going through the T Thinkpads. Did not go through the X, L or E so I cannot confirm. Next closest 8C16T is the 4750U with the additional Pro features (what I want is the hardware full memory encryption).

 

[erwinrommel]

tempted to get yoga slim 7 cause of 4800u

so far no thinkpads in sg got 4800u option right?

Thinkpads are for professionals... so they use those ryzen chips with pro affixed to it like 4650U, 4750U, etc.

4750U is very similar to 4800U.

 

[tjrsasea]

Thinkpads are for professionals... so they use those ryzen chips with pro affixed to it like 4650U, 4750U, etc.

4750U is very similar to 4800U.

whats the difference between those pro and non pro ryzen cpus?

 

[firesong]

whats the difference between those pro and non pro ryzen cpus?

Anandtech covers it quite well. Better quality and longer warranty. The review is a bit old, but it does cover the differences.

https://www.anandtech.com/show/1159...anced-security-longer-warranty-better-quality

 

[tjrsasea]

Anandtech covers it quite well. Better quality and longer warranty. The review is a bit old, but it does cover the differences.

https://www.anandtech.com/show/1159...anced-security-longer-warranty-better-quality

Hm those are desktop chips. Applies to the current laptop chips too? Still dk why "professional" thinkpad laptops require ryzen cpus with the pro moniker..

 

[firesong]

Hm those are desktop chips. Applies to the current laptop chips too? Still dk why "professional" thinkpad laptops require ryzen cpus with the pro moniker..

It's the same reason why professionally deployed laptops require vPro and not the normal intel chips.

Few reasons. Enterprise laptops are supposed to be longer lasting and hardy. This does mean they need to give their best yield to this batch of users, and why they can back then up with the standard 3-5y warranties. Staff don't get new laptops often. The typical asset refresh happens largely because of budgetary (asset depreciation) concerns more often than because the hardware is actually broken.

A key reason is enterprise asset management, but here AMD still lags rather far behind Intel. Then again vPro has had major headstart.

Security is also important. Hardware level encryption of memory and other security features are requirements in the workplace, especially in government, financial, military, and other security conscious sectors.

For other users, it doesn't really matter. That said, they are definitely going to notice the longer lifespans though. Many Thinkpad users keep their laptops for about 5-8y, some even longer. They are built to last and for ease of repair due to the easy availability of parts.

In the gaming world, owing to the rapidly escalating demands of newer games, it's not unheard of that gamers upgrade (bi-)annually. Longevity is secondary when you have buying patterns like these.

 

[Henabi]

This is the trackpad on my legion 5 AMD

 

[flowerpalms]

This is the trackpad on my legion 5 AMD

Why so dusty

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[ksrokiller]

This is the trackpad on my legion 5 AMD

Thanks for sharing,Looks like mine got defect,yours is aligned

 

[alvismah]

What was the previous or highest shopback upsize cashback for Lenovo? 4.5% or ?

I will be getting aio pc. Any pros can help me see if this ram is compatible for this pc? TIA !

Aio pc

Ram

https://www.amazon.sg/Crucial-PC4-21300-SODIMM-260-Pin-Memory/dp/B08C4X3F3S

 

[flowerpalms]

Thanks for sharing,Looks like mine got defect,yours is aligned

So what you going to do? Lenovo didnt QC ur laptop properly

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[tjrsasea]

It's the same reason why professionally deployed laptops require vPro and not the normal intel chips.

Few reasons. Enterprise laptops are supposed to be longer lasting and hardy. This does mean they need to give their best yield to this batch of users, and why they can back then up with the standard 3-5y warranties. Staff don't get new laptops often. The typical asset refresh happens largely because of budgetary (asset depreciation) concerns more often than because the hardware is actually broken.

A key reason is enterprise asset management, but here AMD still lags rather far behind Intel. Then again vPro has had major headstart.

Security is also important. Hardware level encryption of memory and other security features are requirements in the workplace, especially in government, financial, military, and other security conscious sectors.

For other users, it doesn't really matter. That said, they are definitely going to notice the longer lifespans though. Many Thinkpad users keep their laptops for about 5-8y, some even longer. They are built to last and for ease of repair due to the easy availability of parts.

In the gaming world, owing to the rapidly escalating demands of newer games, it's not unheard of that gamers upgrade (bi-)annually. Longevity is secondary when you have buying patterns like these.

So those who really require the function of the "pro" cpus are not "professionals", but rather users in the enterprise environment?

Yeah, understand that thinkpads usually last longer and ease of repair, and thats mostly because of its construction. Some thinkpads are using consumer grade CPUs also so I think has less to do with the CPUs inside though haha! Might be wrong :x

 

[tjrsasea]

Thanks for sharing,Looks like mine got defect,yours is aligned

I've gone back to take a look at ur photo vs this photo.. can't really see a difference

 

[ksrokiller]

So what you going to do? Lenovo didnt QC ur laptop properly

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Awaiting Lencare reply,See what solution they provide

 

[firesong]

So those who really require the function of the "pro" cpus are not "professionals", but rather users in the enterprise environment?

Yeah, understand that thinkpads usually last longer and ease of repair, and thats mostly because of its construction. Some thinkpads are using consumer grade CPUs also so I think has less to do with the CPUs inside though haha! Might be wrong :x

Well, I guess it depends on what they order, and what they are supplied with by the chipmakers. But I'm sure they wouldn't want to put lousy chips into their products gazetted for a certain demographic - it causes a lot of problems for them in the long run, and the loss of enterprise customers is damaging to any manufacturer seeking to serve this client base. Word gets out and makes the problem worse (because IT professionals talk among themselves).

Just think on the oft-reported coverage of why Apple ditched Intel chips, as revealed by a former Intel engineer, and you can see how damaging such articles can be for trust in a company. When companies buy laptops in the tens or hundreds (if MNC), it's far more damaging than in the single-digit (usually 1) that end-users typically buy.

In fact, you can probably go as far as to say they do not really mind the loss of end users as much as they do corporate/enterprise customers. It doesn't hurt them as much.

As to the argument of construction, we have a real life example right here of a trackpad on a consumer class laptop that is misaligned. Send one of these obvious flaws to a corporate client who might be deploying it to senior management/division directorate, and you can be sure that there will be trouble. The longevity of this class of laptops also points to quality internals - they won't be lasting 5-8y if there were bad components within.

Also, the default bundling of 3y of onsite warranty that is typical of enterprise class devices is another good indicator. You only need to look at the Dell Latitudes/Precision/Vostro, or the HP Elitebooks, and you can see the 3y warranty, with the option to extend to 5, is pretty standard across the board. You wouldn't put a long warranty on products you do not trust to last that long.

 

[ksrokiller]

I've gone back to take a look at ur photo vs this photo.. can't really see a difference

Mine trackpad buttons side appears to be abit not aligned.His seems ok, waiting for lencare response see what they say.Might just keep it instead

 

[Henabi]

Why so dusty

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Cuz i always push it to its limits XD