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[firesong]

Prices of Ryzen 5 expected to be higher than 4. 4 was priced cheaply to continue the push to enter the market, but now with the reports of Ryzen 4 >> Intel 10g all over, along with the high demand by platform adopters like the Playstation 5, they are a force of their own.

Intel will likely fight on the price front to win customers back, but their platform has always been expensive.

Moreover, the higher US tarriffs on China products have kicked in, so prices will go up.

Will be interesting times, but we will see.

For now, demand >>> supply, so prices will definitely remain high - basic economics.

 

[flowerpalms]

Yup I didn't pull the trigger and will wait impatiently

Yes wait wait wait and in the meantime, SAVE!

BUT if you still want to get Ryzen 4 + the base RTX2060, you can also wait for the web price to drop!

Just dont pull the trigger if you dont need now if not you regret!

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[KYOGRE]

The weight of new legion 5 is a little heavier which start from 2.4kg with 60Whr Batt. Speculate to be available in SG around Apr.

 

[firesong]

Friend sent me this update which confirms my observation that the bundled 2242 NVMe with the newer Lenovo laptops is slower. Was looking at the latest Lenovo PSREFs for the T14s and found this little titbit. So the 2242 drives that ship with Lenovo laptops are PCIe 3.0 x2 and not x4. There is no incentive to spend $90 to upgrade to the 512GB unless you are also buying the extended KYD warranty in a corporate setting.

For all other users, spend the $90 towards a 512GB NVMe that's better performing if performance is important to you. You can reasonably get BN NVMes for around that price now. Just dump the bundled 256GB into an external enclosure and use it as a portable HDD.

 

[juskoh2]

Friend sent me this update which confirms my observation that the bundled 2242 NVMe with the newer Lenovo laptops is slower. Was looking at the latest Lenovo PSREFs for the T14s and found this little titbit. So the 2242 drives that ship with Lenovo laptops are PCIe 3.0 x2 and not x4. There is no incentive to spend $90 to upgrade to the 512GB unless you are also buying the extended KYD warranty in a corporate setting.

For all other users, spend the $90 towards a 512GB NVMe that's better performing if performance is important to you. You can reasonably get BN NVMes for around that price now. Just dump the bundled 256GB into an external enclosure and use it as a portable HDD.

I read the table as the interface for the 2242 slot is a 3.0 x 2 while the 2280 slot is a 3.0 x 4. i.e the same 2242 ssd in the 2242 slot will be slower than when its installed in the 2280 slot. I may have read it wrongly.

Anyway, 256 to 512GB NVMe is only about $55 difference, try toggling the SSD choice and your cart will update (less than $90 that is stated)

 

[firesong]

I read the table as the interface for the 2242 slot is a 3.0 x 2 while the 2280 slot is a 3.0 x 4. i.e the same 2242 ssd in the 2242 slot will be slower than when its installed in the 2280 slot. I may have read it wrongly.

Anyway, 256 to 512GB NVMe is only about $55 difference, try toggling the SSD choice and your cart will update (less than $90 that is stated)

It's the same NVMe slot as there is only one slot, but the bundled 2242 drive is slower with only 2 PCIe lanes, whereas the 2280 drive has 4 PCIe lanes (that's what x2 and x4 stand for). Simplistically, the 2242 drives have half the read/write throughput of an equivalent x4 drive.

The PCIe slot for the WWAN card is only x2 (so even if you put an x4 drive in there, it is only capable of using 2 lanes). However, as aforementioned, the bundled M-key NVMe drive will not fit since it requires a B-key.

Hence, both the drive and the slot need to support 4 lanes for full speeds. If either one has less than 4 lanes, the speeds are directly affected.

Yes, I am aware that $90 is their price without discount codes. However, we're coming into the window where there are almost no more viable discount codes that give good prices. If you look around the market now, there are many good 500GB drives that are in the $90-100ish range and have decent read/write speeds, such as the WD Black SN750, Hynix P31 Gold (oos on Amazon.sg), Adata SX8200 Pro and a couple of others you can find.

Read/write speeds may not matter to many people, but to those who need the performance (eg, typically heavier file read/write loads like photo/video editing), it is something to bear in mind.

 

[KYOGRE]

16:10 screen for legion 5 Pro

 

[juskoh2]

It's the same NVMe slot as there is only one slot, but the bundled 2242 drive is slower with only 2 PCIe lanes, whereas the 2280 drive has 4 PCIe lanes (that's what x2 and x4 stand for). Simplistically, the 2242 drives have half the read/write throughput of an equivalent x4 drive.

The PCIe slot for the WWAN card is only x2 (so even if you put an x4 drive in there, it is only capable of using 2 lanes). However, as aforementioned, the bundled M-key NVMe drive will not fit since it requires a B-key.

Hence, both the drive and the slot need to support 4 lanes for full speeds. If either one has less than 4 lanes, the speeds are directly affected.

Yes, I am aware that $90 is their price without discount codes. However, we're coming into the window where there are almost no more viable discount codes that give good prices. If you look around the market now, there are many good 500GB drives that are in the $90-100ish range and have decent read/write speeds, such as the WD Black SN750, Hynix P31 Gold (oos on Amazon.sg), Adata SX8200 Pro and a couple of others you can find.

Read/write speeds may not matter to many people, but to those who need the performance (eg, typically heavier file read/write loads like photo/video editing), it is something to bear in mind.

Got it! thanks for clearing the misconception i had!

 

[flowerpalms]

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[Henabi]

Why go back to the old design

 

[KYOGRE]

Why go back to the old design

It's actually Legion 5P renamed to Pro but updated the screen to 16:10 ratio.

 

[KYOGRE]

Entire Ryzen 5000U/H series cpu:

 

[flowerpalms]

Entire Ryzen 5000U/H series lineup:

Go for zen 3

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[Infinite]

The Lenovo Yoga Slim 7 AMD version....
~8+ h of use – text editing in Google Drive, Quiet Mode, screen at 60%, Wi-Fi ON;

~15+ h of use – 1080p fullscreen video on Youtube in Edge, Quiet Mode, screen at 60%, Wi-Fi ON;

~15+ h of use – Netflix fullscreen in Edge, Quiet Mode, screen at 60%, Wi-Fi ON;

~5-7 h of use – browsing in Edge, Intelligent Cooling Mode, screen at 60%, Wi-Fi ON.

Take note of the applications used, brightness setting and the Battery mode

GOSH! ASUS latest AMD Zen 3 + RTX 3080!!!

seems like Asus also dropping the loud Gamer vibe from their ROG lineup, just like Lenovo Legion
and they are feeling the competition heat from Lenovo's Legion as well.

thanks, I guess AMD still triumphs over intel in efficiency. surprised that watching videos can last up to 15h, didnt expect the battery to last so long with the screen on. decided to just turn off windows hello as well to squeeze more battery life out

 

[Henabi]

thanks, I guess AMD still triumphs over intel in efficiency. surprised that watching videos can last up to 15h, didnt expect the battery to last so long with the screen on. decided to just turn off windows hello as well to squeeze more battery life out

And.... its the Same company helping Apple to produce their new M1 chip

Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company (TSMC)

 

[Tucksoon]

E15 GEN 2 has IPS display option (+$30) now

 

[Henabi]

I am pretty excited about new Lenovo Legion Slim 7.... If they offer trade-in, I don't mind to trade in my Legion 5 for Legion Slim 7

Edit: Lenovo singapore offer trade in

 

[erwinrommel]

And.... its the Same company helping Apple to produce their new M1 chip

Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company (TSMC)

Actually TSMC makes good chip, but then it also depends on how the designer designs the chip in the first place. AMD design seems to be more energy efficient.

 

[Henabi]

Actually TSMC makes good chip, but then it also depends on how the designer designs the chip in the first place. AMD design seems to be more energy efficient.

Of course people will still argue that its not

 

[bumdssa]

E15 GEN 2 has IPS display option (+$30) now

thanks for sharing!
anyone knows what is the best code to use now?