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Went over to some retail shops. Mentioning that Oled panels cannot be used for photo editing. Is it really true or debatable?
i think cause majority of ppl using ips/ va panels that makes viewing your nicely edited photos on oled look different..?

colour accuracy and contrast ratio on oled is the better choice.
 

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i think cause majority of ppl using ips/ va panels that makes viewing your nicely edited photos on oled look different..?

colour accuracy and contrast ratio on oled is the better choice.
I think it differently. Majority of the mobile devices are now on oled. Editing on oled makes sure that i edit closer to make it view on mobile looks similar or closer to what it should be. Haha.

The claim he made was, "oled are fake colours, what you see is not real, it is strictly better for media consumptions."

I went on to question him "So you are saying IPS panel is better than Oled for photo editing?" And his answer was "Yes".
 

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I think it differently. Majority of the mobile devices are now on oled. Editing on oled makes sure that i edit closer to make it view on mobile looks similar or closer to what it should be. Haha.

The claim he made was, "oled are fake colours, what you see is not real, it is strictly better for media consumptions."

I went on to question him "So you are saying IPS panel is better than Oled for photo editing?" And his answer was "Yes".
i guess that shop doesn't have oled options
 

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Went over to some retail shops. Mentioning that Oled panels cannot be used for photo editing. Is it really true or debatable?
in a sense yes as it might appeared over saturated since Oled color space is DCI-P3 which geared towards video editing & media consumption. For photo editing look for panels that offered 100% Adobe RGB color coverage.
 

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ThinkBook 14 G4+ ARA does come with a configurable RTX 2050 Laptop GPU or without.
The internal cooling is capable of handling both APU and GPU.
Not sure if a discrete graphics card will be good. The 6800H is already running at 45W and drains battery. Adding a discrete graphics card will worsen this. For a business laptop, portability, security, long battery with moderate performance will be the key.
 

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Went over to some retail shops. Mentioning that Oled panels cannot be used for photo editing. Is it really true or debatable?
Not true OLED is better than IPS for photo editing.

Look for one with good RGB, PCI-3, Adobe colour accuracy out of the box, and do custom tuning if required. There are some brands with calibrated screen.

For best results get photo editing screen that cost a bomb.

Avoid TN, and VA panel.
 

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For OLED vs IPS with digital media work, it mainly depends on accuracy. OLED displays can be incredibly saturated out of the box - and in quite a few cases are intentionally saturated so it "pops" to the user and stands out over the IPS displays. You need to recalibrate the display, assuming they can be calibrated to within a reasonable level - because some displays don't lend themselves to being calibrated as they are meant to "pop". There are many IPS displays that just cannot be fixed even with the best calibration tools because by nature they are overly skewed to red or green - the same goes for OLED displays. What you want is 100% (or more) Adobe RGB and perhaps the complete CMYK colour space. If you're doing video work, the DCI-P3 (which stands for "Digital Cinema Initiatives - Protocol 3") or CIE1931 standards are more suitable.
color-spaces-srgb-adobe-rgb-p3-edited_480x480.jpg


I won't say OLED displays are worse than IPS - they have some advantages. But just know that calibration of photographs is usually against the printed output (whether on canvas, paper, or other materials) for most dealing with photograph work, and it generally doesn't matter whether OLED or LCD.

Also, given that OLED by nature is more prone to burn-in, just make sure that you are not using a burnt-in screen for digital media work. That would be pretty obvious when your output does not match what you see on the screen.
 
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go for the Thinkpad P series if you need good quality screens
Can't fully agree with this as it's a bit sweeping. I had a P14s recently for a short while and it came with the B140HAN04.E panel; the screen was poor imo, with a reddish cast to it. It uses the same panels as the T14 if you check their parts list.
https://pcsupport.lenovo.com/sg/en/...type-20vx--20vy/20vy/parts/display/compatible
Perhaps some of the P series are better, but I was pretty disappointed with the P14s I had - wouldn't even calibrate properly, even with significantly lowering the brightness. :( Lenovo refused to replace the panel as they claimed it was within spec, so I sold it at a loss.

IMO, Apple's displays are more consistent out of the factory, and at least calibrate properly.
 

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u can skip the S series, either the full P or the V series are not bad. i am waiting for the P15v Gen3 AMD so that i can upgrade from my P52
 

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For OLED vs IPS with digital media work, it mainly depends on accuracy. OLED displays can be incredibly saturated out of the box - and in quite a few cases are intentionally saturated so it "pops" to the user and stands out over the IPS displays. You need to recalibrate the display, assuming they can be calibrated to within a reasonable level - because some displays don't lend themselves to being calibrated as they are meant to "pop". There are many IPS displays that just cannot be fixed even with the best calibration tools because by nature they are overly skewed to red or green - the same goes for OLED displays. What you want is 100% (or more) Adobe RGB and perhaps the complete CMYK colour space. If you're doing video work, the DCI-P3 (which stands for "Digital Cinema Initiatives - Protocol 3") or CIE1931 standards are more suitable.
color-spaces-srgb-adobe-rgb-p3-edited_480x480.jpg


I won't say OLED displays are worse than IPS - they have some advantages. But just know that calibration of photographs is usually against the printed output (whether on canvas, paper, or other materials) for most dealing with photograph work, and it generally doesn't matter whether OLED or LCD.

Also, given that OLED by nature is more prone to burn-in, just make sure that you are not using a burnt-in screen for digital media work. That would be pretty obvious when your output does not match what you see on the screen.
Thank you for the detailed explainations.

I have decided to pull the trigger for the Thinkbook 14p Gen 3 with the Oled panel.

Coming from the Yoga slim 7 pro, i think the Thinkbook will serve a better purpose for my wife with more IOs on the back. At least i felt that the need for an extra dongle is not needed.
 

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Thank you for the detailed explainations.

I have decided to pull the trigger for the Thinkbook 14p Gen 3 with the Oled panel.

Coming from the Yoga slim 7 pro, i think the Thinkbook will serve a better purpose for my wife with more IOs on the back. At least i felt that the need for an extra dongle is not needed.
Note that you will be limited to 16GB memory if OLED panel is selected for
ThinkBook 14p Gen 3. There is no sodimm slot on this model.:o
 

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For the same hardware configuration, which one of the 2 notebooks below, might offer a higher cooling capacity? A or B?:o

A


B
 

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For the same hardware configuration, which one of the 2 notebooks below, might offer a higher cooling capacity? A or B?:o

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B

B should be the yoga slim version. A should be thinkbook judging from the hinge and rear IO. It is debatable.

thinkbook has thicker heatpipes. Judging from the pics. It is likely to use 9mm thick. It will take some time to reach equilibrium. And to top it up, they have 1 pipe that is S shape.

However for the yoga. They implemented 2 long heatpipes running through from one end to the other. However the pipes are smaller. Likely 6mm.

I may be wrong, but my guess their cooling capacity for both should be in the same ballpark.
 

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B should be the yoga slim version. A should be thinkbook judging from the hinge and rear IO. It is debatable.

thinkbook has thicker heatpipes. Judging from the pics. It is likely to use 9mm thick. It will take some time to reach equilibrium. And to top it up, they have 1 pipe that is S shape.

However for the yoga. They implemented 2 long heatpipes running through from one end to the other. However the pipes are smaller. Likely 6mm.

I may be wrong, but my guess their cooling capacity for both should be in the same ballpark.
A = Thinkbook 14P Gen2 (Thinkbook 14P Gen3 supposingly using the same chassis)
B = ThinkBook 14 G4+ ARA (Thinkbook 14+)
 
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