AMD Zen 4 Discussion Thread (31% faster than ADL)

[KYZT2021]

But remember the TDP is not equal to the wattage pull by the CPU in AMD case will be higher

 

[darkmatt]

just buy what u want/need.

for laptop, i dont care what processor is inside. coz my laptop is for ultra basic use.


for desktop i will choose highest spec within budget..

 

[Phen8210]

Ecores in ADL is skylake levels, just cant boost as high.
New Ecores in RL should be even better!

Amd Zen4 also getting TDP increase, siao liao.

5950X rated 105W TDP
7950X rated 170W TDP

the higher the more people buy

 

[Yongkit]

just buy what u want/need.

for laptop, i dont care what processor is inside. coz my laptop is for ultra basic use.


for desktop i will choose highest spec within budget..

True and fair.

As for laptop it will lock down all the upgrade path of CPU and GPU to one generation.

I really have no comments for the price of gaming laptop whether worth it usage or not as is really up to individual pocket.

 

[Phen8210]

today the weather tdp very high

 

[haylui]

today the weather tdp very high

Since April, everyday PPT is high

 

[Phen8210]

Since April, everyday PPT is high

my aircon spoil i suffer

 

[haylui]

my aircon spoil i suffer

If we have Einstein aircon that would be great.

 

[poooooo]

https://www.pcgamer.com/asus-rog-crosshair-x670e-extreme-motherboard/
Asus marketing department is memeing lol

 

[Phen8210]

https://www.pcgamer.com/asus-rog-crosshair-x670e-extreme-motherboard/
Asus marketing department is memeing lol

so extreme

 

[haylui]

so extreme

IEEE is triple extreme in this sense?

 

[haylui]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/a...-uplift-more-than-35-overall-performance-gain
IPC gain is barely 10%
But ST gain > 15% means 5.5GHz is 5% more than what 5950x can do ?

 

[Koenig168]

The claimed performance numbers don't quite add up. 5% gain in clock speed does not equate to 5% gain in performance in ST. So if the IPC is 8 to 10%, I don't see where the more than 15% number comes from.

 

[claypot_king]

True and fair.

As for laptop it will lock down all the upgrade path of CPU and GPU to one generation.

I really have no comments for the price of gaming laptop whether worth it usage or not as is really up to individual pocket.

Gaming laptop are usually for folks who want to do all their gaming n heavy loading stuff in one device but die die don't want desktop.

 

[KYZT2021]

Summary from tech jesus

 

[haylui]

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Lates...ins-over-Zen-3-revealed-by-MLID.619300.0.htmlIf this is true then very good upgrade to ddr 5 platform next year.

 

[matique]

going to ddr5 will be backwards for most users unless they can get 6400+ bins for an affordable price. Latency on amd is already high with ddr4 (tuned 3800c14 55ns roughly, high 60s/70s stock xmp for 3600c16), can't imagine what it would be like for ddr5. Initial zen4 won't have enough cache to cover for bad ram, hopefully performance uplift would be good enough to cover for lack of ddr5 optimization.

 

[haylui]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.di...ryzen-5-7600x-spotted-in-early-benchmark/?amp
R5 7600x beats 5950x in gaming by at least 10% at 4.4GHz.

 

[Koenig168]

Ryzen 7000 is looking to be more of a leap in performance than the official 15% single thread, if the 7600 can really outperform the 5950X. It will be like the transition from RTX 2000 to 3000, when even the RTX 3070 can match the previous gen 2080Ti flagship.

 

[haylui]

Ryzen 7000 is looking to be more of a leap in performance than the official 15% single thread, if the 7600 can really outperform the 5950X. It will be like the transition from RTX 2000 to 3000, when even the RTX 3070 can match the previous gen 2080Ti flagship.

Gaming performance doesn't surprise.