Anyone is also using the StarHub UltraSpeed (10Gbps)? I am so frustrated. (Solved by upgrading ONR firmware.)

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How to turn on jumbo frame in Nokia ONR as the router look very basic?

in asus you can turn on jumbo frame in lan switch control, i think it make all lan ports use jumbo mtu.

but is starhub still using 1500, then no use
 

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1500 MTU is the standard, all WAN links should be 1500 unless otherwise stated. To run jumbo frames, you need to set it on both ends or you'll run into weird issues. Pretty safe to say it's 1500 byte MTU if starhub didn't say otherwise.

Which brings me to my 2nd unspoken point, benchmarking NAT/routing performance with jumbo frames is cheating, because jumbo frames is not realistic once you go out onto the internet.

Usually people benchmark routers at 1500 bytes, 64 bytes and IMIX using a traffic generator.
 
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I dont think is locked in rates after 24 months. All these services will use prevailing rates after contract ends. If not, just lock in now and call it a day.

Make sure to get ONR superadmin password and bridge it.

The 88.77 only for new home owners.
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Yes I have mentioned in my original post it is for new home owner. Public one they changed it to the $110 package that comes with ONT. I have also double triple confirm and in writing that the price stays the same at 88.77 for epl sport entertainment and Asian. You have to drop Netflix and Disney. And rental box isn’t free after 24 months. Btw this new home owner package sign up is done through the authorise partner found in the footnote. For mine I was assigned planet managed services.
  • Authorised Partners: KM Facilities Management Pte Ltd, I-TUP Pte Ltd, Pixel Inc. Marketing Pte Ltd, Planet Managed Services Pte Ltd, Esmart Mobile Pte Ltd and Far East Service Centre Pte Ltd.
I wonder then, if the battle to get the pw might be easier haha.

I even went to ask about the public package (that is done through StarHub directly) for the $110 with ONT. same thing, price stays the same for all the tv package but you have to drop Netflix and Disney and box is chargeable.
 
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Black box is free for the $88. It is only chargeable after 24 months. So it’s still $22 extra instead of $7
I see. I had to pay for mine the other time seems like the promo is better now
 

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Very true.

Also, am wondering is StarHub offering XS-250X-A for the ONT on the TP-Link bundle?

Saw you in another thread talking about it and mentioned MyRepublic is offering XS-250X-A while StarHub is still on XS-240X-A.

Reason I am asking is because I am only getting 4Gbps Down, 3Gbps Up; regardless ONR or ONT, Fibre Termination Point (TP) port 1 or 2. Exact same results on both.
(ONR on TP Port 1 switched to ONT on TP Port 2).

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Mine is 240x too on StarHub. Congrats on winning the battle. Can you check what's your fibre snr ratio in the ONT?
 

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Yes I have mentioned in my original post it is for new home owner. Public one they changed it to the $110 package that comes with ONT. I have also double triple confirm and in writing that the price stays the same at 88.77 for epl sport entertainment and Asian. You have to drop Netflix and Disney. And rental box isn’t free after 24 months. Btw this new home owner package sign up is done through the authorise partner found in the footnote. For mine I was assigned planet managed services.
  • Authorised Partners: KM Facilities Management Pte Ltd, I-TUP Pte Ltd, Pixel Inc. Marketing Pte Ltd, Planet Managed Services Pte Ltd, Esmart Mobile Pte Ltd and Far East Service Centre Pte Ltd.
I wonder then, if the battle to get the pw might be easier haha.

I even went to ask about the public package (that is done through StarHub directly) for the $110 with ONT. same thing, price stays the same for all the tv package but you have to drop Netflix and Disney and box is chargeable.
The hub troopers are outsourced so no difference actually. Even with the super admin password there are issues eg the ipv4 routing won't be saved after a restart etc etc. I am guessing they are using this 88 dollar plan to dump excess stock of the Nokia router
 

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& PSA for those wondering "How can I determine the MTU size of WAN interfaces manually?" simply by using ping commands :giggle:

Nice. Singtel is also using MTU size of 1500.
MTU = "1472 (payload size) + 20 (IP Header) + 8 (ICMP Header)" = 1500.

Code:
PS C:\work\speedtest> Ping -f -l 1472 8.8.8.8

Pinging 8.8.8.8 with 1472 bytes of data:
Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=68 (sent 1472) time=7ms TTL=54
Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=68 (sent 1472) time=7ms TTL=54
Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=68 (sent 1472) time=5ms TTL=54
Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=68 (sent 1472) time=7ms TTL=54

Ping statistics for 8.8.8.8:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 5ms, Maximum = 7ms, Average = 6ms
PS C:\work\speedtest> Ping -f -l 1480 8.8.8.8

Pinging 8.8.8.8 with 1480 bytes of data:
Packet needs to be fragmented but DF set.
Packet needs to be fragmented but DF set.
Packet needs to be fragmented but DF set.
Packet needs to be fragmented but DF set.

Ping statistics for 8.8.8.8:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),
PS C:\work\speedtest> Ping -f -l 1464 8.8.8.8

Pinging 8.8.8.8 with 1464 bytes of data:
Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=68 (sent 1464) time=3ms TTL=54
Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=68 (sent 1464) time=4ms TTL=54
Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=68 (sent 1464) time=9ms TTL=54
Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=68 (sent 1464) time=4ms TTL=54

Ping statistics for 8.8.8.8:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 3ms, Maximum = 9ms, Average = 5ms
 

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Similar info
https://documentation.meraki.com/Ge...nd_Troubleshooting/Troubleshooting_MTU_Issues
https://help.keenetic.com/hc/en-us/articles/214470885-How-to-determine-the-optimal-MTU-size

Common MTU size
https://customer.cradlepoint.com/s/...he-mtu-size-of-the-lan-and-wan-of-your-router

I was thinking using the "ip" command under OpenWRT or AsusWRT to get the MTU size.
Code:
root@OpenWrt:~# ip a

...
2: eth0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc cake state UP group default qlen 1000
...
39: ifb4eth0: <BROADCAST,NOARP,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc cake state UNKNOWN group default qlen 32
...
 

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The hub troopers are outsourced so no difference actually. Even with the super admin password there are issues eg the ipv4 routing won't be saved after a restart etc etc. I am guessing they are using this 88 dollar plan to dump excess stock of the Nokia router
This looks like a damn valid reason.
 

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Nice. Singtel is also using MTU size of 1500.
MTU = "1472 (payload size) + 20 (IP Header) + 8 (ICMP Header)" = 1500.

Code:
PS C:\work\speedtest> Ping -f -l 1472 8.8.8.8

Pinging 8.8.8.8 with 1472 bytes of data:
Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=68 (sent 1472) time=7ms TTL=54
Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=68 (sent 1472) time=7ms TTL=54
Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=68 (sent 1472) time=5ms TTL=54
Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=68 (sent 1472) time=7ms TTL=54

Ping statistics for 8.8.8.8:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 5ms, Maximum = 7ms, Average = 6ms
PS C:\work\speedtest> Ping -f -l 1480 8.8.8.8

Pinging 8.8.8.8 with 1480 bytes of data:
Packet needs to be fragmented but DF set.
Packet needs to be fragmented but DF set.
Packet needs to be fragmented but DF set.
Packet needs to be fragmented but DF set.

Ping statistics for 8.8.8.8:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),
PS C:\work\speedtest> Ping -f -l 1464 8.8.8.8

Pinging 8.8.8.8 with 1464 bytes of data:
Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=68 (sent 1464) time=3ms TTL=54
Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=68 (sent 1464) time=4ms TTL=54
Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=68 (sent 1464) time=9ms TTL=54
Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=68 (sent 1464) time=4ms TTL=54

Ping statistics for 8.8.8.8:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 3ms, Maximum = 9ms, Average = 5ms
For this commands, the user has put the MTU in the commands so of course it will run the commands prompt based on the user commands.
 

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To check your MTU just use this commands

netsh interface ipv4 show subinterfaces

Confirm I using 1500 MTU so can not run jumbo frames.
 
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Mine is 240x too on StarHub. Congrats on winning the battle. Can you check what's your fibre snr ratio in the ONT?

Before:
NOKIA XS-2426X-A ONR on FTP Port 1
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Current:
NOKIA XS-240X-A ONT on FTP Port 2
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Here you go. Not sure what's a good SNR range.

Maybe you can share yours to compare as well :')
 
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The hub troopers are outsourced so no difference actually. Even with the super admin password there are issues eg the ipv4 routing won't be saved after a restart etc etc. I am guessing they are using this 88 dollar plan to dump excess stock of the Nokia router

Yup, the HubTrooper that came to my place is outsourced as well. Made friend with him and communicating via WhatsApp HAHAHA
 

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Before:
NOKIA XS-2462X-A ONR on FTP Port 1
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Current:
NOKIA XS-240X-A ONT on FTP Port 2
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Here you go. Not sure what's a good SNR range.

Maybe you can share yours to compare as well :')
Yours is -17 which is okayish. Mine is about -15, slightly better I guess but I have never gotten 8gbps speeds before
 
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