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question to all the gurus here... what is the procedure required to convert a semi D to detached? ? My neigbhouring house is already converted to a detached house back in 2020 and when i bought my place, the agent was telling me that the place has the potential to convert to detached as long as i apply for approval. What does it mean?
 

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question to all the gurus here... what is the procedure required to convert a semi D to detached? ? My neigbhouring house is already converted to a detached house back in 2020 and when i bought my place, the agent was telling me that the place has the potential to convert to detached as long as i apply for approval. What does it mean?

is your house still attached to another house? if there's no attachment to another house, then technically your house is already a detached house since your neighbour has officially detached from your house when they rebuilt theirs into a detached house.

if you're not planning to rebuilt your house, then leave it as it is and no need to spend money on any administrative fees. but if you rebuilt your house in future, you will design your new house based on detached house regulations (the usual setbacks and a size coverage of max 50%) upon which your QP should help you submit all the necessary paperwork to seek approval to officially convert to a detached house on your land title.
 

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Hi, I’ve got another question regarding awnings. Is it legal to extend the roof over a partially roofed attic balcony (without enclosing it)? Intending to build solar panels on my roof and the planned roof extension.
 

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Hi, I’ve got another question regarding awnings. Is it legal to extend the roof over a partially roofed attic balcony (without enclosing it)? Intending to build solar panels on my roof and the planned roof extension.

do you have the building plans for your house? do you know when your house was originally built?

if your house was built within the last 10 years (on and after 2015) then it is under the newer envelope control regulations. before 2015, another set of regulations will apply.

Regardless of when your house was built, chances are you will not be able to legally extend the roof over the attic even if you are not fully enclosing the attic balcony. the attic balcony is supposed to be open to sky and the 1m extension of roof eaves or the main roof will apply as well.

Again, any extension is at your own risk on legalities as well as potential insurance coverage.

Please also take note that if your house is physically 4 storeys and above, you will need to submit application to SCDF for fire safety clearance when you do up your PV panels. Do not sign any waivers/indemnities that your PV panel installer/contractor provides and they say no need to submit to SCDF as your insurance provider may reject any claims due to this should anything happens (touch wood!).

What I mean by 4 physical storeys
eg: 3 storey plus attic
basement plus 2 storey plus attic
2 storey plus messznine plus attic
To SCDF, any floor level is considered a storey regardless what URA terms that level to be.
 

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do you have the building plans for your house? do you know when your house was originally built?

if your house was built within the last 10 years (on and after 2015) then it is under the newer envelope control regulations. before 2015, another set of regulations will apply.

Regardless of when your house was built, chances are you will not be able to legally extend the roof over the attic even if you are not fully enclosing the attic balcony. the attic balcony is supposed to be open to sky and the 1m extension of roof eaves or the main roof will apply as well.

Again, any extension is at your own risk on legalities as well as potential insurance coverage.

Please also take note that if your house is physically 4 storeys and above, you will need to submit application to SCDF for fire safety clearance when you do up your PV panels. Do not sign any waivers/indemnities that your PV panel installer/contractor provides and they say no need to submit to SCDF as your insurance provider may reject any claims due to this should anything happens (touch wood!).

What I mean by 4 physical storeys
eg: 3 storey plus attic
basement plus 2 storey plus attic
2 storey plus messznine plus attic
To SCDF, any floor level is considered a storey regardless what URA terms that level to be.
Yup my house belongs to the >2015 set of regulations.

Thanks for clarifying with regards to the attic balcony! I‘ll just leave it alone then.

Excellent advice with regards to the PV panels, I didn’t know that! Ya my place is 4 physical stories so I will definitely be heeding your advice when it comes to engaging a PV panel installer.

On another note, is it legal to convert my RC car porch roof to a balcony? ie hack down a window, change it to a door, build a parapet along the border of the RC car porch roof and place some planters there
 

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Yup my house belongs to the >2015 set of regulations.

Thanks for clarifying with regards to the attic balcony! I‘ll just leave it alone then.

Excellent advice with regards to the PV panels, I didn’t know that! Ya my place is 4 physical stories so I will definitely be heeding your advice when it comes to engaging a PV panel installer.

On another note, is it legal to convert my RC car porch roof to a balcony? ie hack down a window, change it to a door, build a parapet along the border of the RC car porch roof and place some planters there

Since your house is physically 4 storeys, make sure your PV installer do the proper submissions with SCDF. you may need to pay a bit more (SCDF fee and QP fee) for this but at least get it done properly so you don't run into any issues in future.

you can convert your RC car porch roof to a roof terrace. make sure a PE looks at the existing structural plans and signs off on the new design as well. Do note that there are regulations on what materials can be used for the parapet/perimeter wall for the car porch roof so you cannot built a brick/concrete wall. you can refer to the link below for more info

https://www.ura.gov.sg/Corporate/Gu...ntrol/Residential/Terrace/Building-Appendages
 

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Since your house is physically 4 storeys, make sure your PV installer do the proper submissions with SCDF. you may need to pay a bit more (SCDF fee and QP fee) for this but at least get it done properly so you don't run into any issues in future.

you can convert your RC car porch roof to a roof terrace. make sure a PE looks at the existing structural plans and signs off on the new design as well. Do note that there are regulations on what materials can be used for the parapet/perimeter wall for the car porch roof so you cannot built a brick/concrete wall. you can refer to the link below for more info

https://www.ura.gov.sg/Corporate/Gu...ntrol/Residential/Terrace/Building-Appendages
just curious if u have architecture background because u do know alot
 

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haha no. I do know architects and I did quite a bit of research myself when I was doing the rebuilt of my house.
figured I might as well pick your brain while you’re still around haha

do you know of any CCTV rules regarding landed properties? ie if I build a pole at the side of my garden against the wall, mount a CCTV (with floodlight) along the pole and face it along the direction of the footpath away from any neighbours, is that legal? The CCTV and floodlight will trigger if someone walks the footpath along the perimeter of my wall but will otherwise stay quiescent.
 

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figured I might as well pick your brain while you’re still around haha

do you know of any CCTV rules regarding landed properties? ie if I build a pole at the side of my garden against the wall, mount a CCTV (with floodlight) along the pole and face it along the direction of the footpath away from any neighbours, is that legal? The CCTV and floodlight will trigger if someone walks the footpath along the perimeter of my wall but will otherwise stay quiescent.

I don't think there's any regulations pertaining to CCTV for private landed properties unlike HDB flats. However do be mindful of how you place and angle the cameras as your neighbours may not be happy that they are being watched on.

Motion sensor flood lights can be a bit irritating if not done properly. There's a house near my place which was recently renovated and they did motion sensor flood lights but the sensor even gets triggered from like 40m away which is quite irritating because you suddenly get bright light shining at you when you're driving towards the house. So again be mindful of how you are placing the motion sensor for detection and floodlight's angle of coverage.

Instead of floodlight, you can also get CCTV with night vision functions. There's certain models which also does colour recording at night but i'm not sure how they well they will work with low/no light areas. My CCTVs have night vision functions so they record in black and white at night even if there's no light turned on.

If you're planning to DIY, then do more research on the cameras esp on the angles which they can capture and the focal length of the lens. basically for any areas you want to monitor, you will need 2 cameras to cover the entire area since the area behind the camera is a blind spot. Get your contractor to run Cat6 network cables so you can use POE CCTVs which will save you the headache of running another set of power cables to the camera locations.
 

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I don't think there's any regulations pertaining to CCTV for private landed properties unlike HDB flats. However do be mindful of how you place and angle the cameras as your neighbours may not be happy that they are being watched on.

Motion sensor flood lights can be a bit irritating if not done properly. There's a house near my place which was recently renovated and they did motion sensor flood lights but the sensor even gets triggered from like 40m away which is quite irritating because you suddenly get bright light shining at you when you're driving towards the house. So again be mindful of how you are placing the motion sensor for detection and floodlight's angle of coverage.

Instead of floodlight, you can also get CCTV with night vision functions. There's certain models which also does colour recording at night but i'm not sure how they well they will work with low/no light areas. My CCTVs have night vision functions so they record in black and white at night even if there's no light turned on.

If you're planning to DIY, then do more research on the cameras esp on the angles which they can capture and the focal length of the lens. basically for any areas you want to monitor, you will need 2 cameras to cover the entire area since the area behind the camera is a blind spot. Get your contractor to run Cat6 network cables so you can use POE CCTVs which will save you the headache of running another set of power cables to the camera locations.
just curious is your house smart home and did u install LAN point in every room?
I am still considering if I should do up smart home
 

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At last one if not more LAN in each room.
Eg your entertainment room might need 2, and your home office room as well.
Even the porch and rear garden too
 

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just curious is your house smart home and did u install LAN point in every room?
I am still considering if I should do up smart home
I have multiple LAN points in each room including a phone point. IMDA regulations state that each room should have at least 1 LAN point and TV point. When the regulations was updated in 2018, the TV point had also applied to be require in the household shelter as well and I had an interesting conversation with a BCA officer on why it’s stupid to need the TV point in the HS when analog TV signals had already ceased. Anyway, I wrote in to IMDA around early 2019 to request for a waiver to not install the TV points in my house and replace with additional LAN points instead so I didn’t have to waste money to pull coaxial cables which won’t be used. Soon after the regulations were updated to remove the requirement of TV point in the HS.
My suggestion is to install at least 2 LAN points in each room, 3 if you don’t mind. My phone points are basically LAN points as well just that they are plugged into the PBX at my server rack instead of network switch.

I didn’t do smart home as I don’t see the need to do so and I didn’t want to waste electricity on the smart switches. Even though the smart switches may draw little power, it does add up when you have so many switches in a landed house. Also back then around 2018/2019, there were many feedback on smart switches melting as our standard wiring doesn’t come with the neutral wire for light switches. I’m not sure if this is still the case today but if you need to run a neutral wire for the smart switches, your reno cost will go up as well. Do more research on the quality of these smart switches nowadays and decide if you want to go ahead. If they are still prone to melting these days, then it can become a fire risk when they act up.
 

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At last one if not more LAN in each room.
Eg your entertainment room might need 2, and your home office room as well.
Even the porch and rear garden too
Sorry if this is a stupid question, but could you explain why every room and even porch/rear garden would also need LAN points?
 

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Sorry if this is a stupid question, but could you explain why every room and even porch/rear garden would also need LAN points?
there's no such thing as enough LAN points. I have 4 LAN points in my room and it's not enough. Have to swap occasionally.
while WIFI is an alternative, LAN is still the best for network traffic esp when speed is needed even for your TV. you don't want your streaming movie to suffer from buffering issues right?
LAN points in car porch or garden will allow you flexibility of plugging in devices as and when you need esp if you have a POE switch as well.
 

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Which area is still affordable? Looking at below 4 for FH, no strata.
Landed in ulu areas can get a semi-d for $3.0M minimum (Freehold). My parents bought a semi-d Freehold long ago in the 2000's when landed wasnt so expensive. Now house is worth so much more. If your okay with 99-year then can get from $2.0M onwards
 

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I have multiple LAN points in each room including a phone point. IMDA regulations state that each room should have at least 1 LAN point and TV point. When the regulations was updated in 2018, the TV point had also applied to be require in the household shelter as well and I had an interesting conversation with a BCA officer on why it’s stupid to need the TV point in the HS when analog TV signals had already ceased. Anyway, I wrote in to IMDA around early 2019 to request for a waiver to not install the TV points in my house and replace with additional LAN points instead so I didn’t have to waste money to pull coaxial cables which won’t be used. Soon after the regulations were updated to remove the requirement of TV point in the HS.
My suggestion is to install at least 2 LAN points in each room, 3 if you don’t mind. My phone points are basically LAN points as well just that they are plugged into the PBX at my server rack instead of network switch.

I didn’t do smart home as I don’t see the need to do so and I didn’t want to waste electricity on the smart switches. Even though the smart switches may draw little power, it does add up when you have so many switches in a landed house. Also back then around 2018/2019, there were many feedback on smart switches melting as our standard wiring doesn’t come with the neutral wire for light switches. I’m not sure if this is still the case today but if you need to run a neutral wire for the smart switches, your reno cost will go up as well. Do more research on the quality of these smart switches nowadays and decide if you want to go ahead. If they are still prone to melting these days, then it can become a fire risk when they act up.
thank you for the information. does this mean your server and router are together in 1 room?
I would think you have one main router at that 1 room and multiple extender around the house plugged into the LAN points?
 

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thank you for the information. does this mean your server and router are together in 1 room?
I would think you have one main router at that 1 room and multiple extender around the house plugged into the LAN points?
All my LAN points from different rooms are terminated in one room which I have a server rack for the termination points. My fiber termination point is also located in that same room. So in that server rack is all my network equipment, PBX and CCTV NVR.
In other words, I have a server room at home to provide all the networking needs for my house.
for WIFI, I have ceiling mounted POE access points for each storey which are connected via LAN cable back to the server rack as well.
All these were planned from the start and cables laid during construction.
Since you’re doing renovations, can plan for the network cables in similar manner which will make things cleaner and easier to maintain
 

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All my LAN points from different rooms are terminated in one room which I have a server rack for the termination points. My fiber termination point is also located in that same room. So in that server rack is all my network equipment, PBX and CCTV NVR.
In other words, I have a server room at home to provide all the networking needs for my house.
for WIFI, I have ceiling mounted POE access points for each storey which are connected via LAN cable back to the server rack as well.
All these were planned from the start and cables laid during construction.
Since you’re doing renovations, can plan for the network cables in similar manner which will make things cleaner and easier to maintain
would also just want to ask, if I have LAN points in every room and floor and I just connect the mesh or TP-Link HB410 router (WiFi 7) using LAN cable in different rooms or floor, the wifi should work well too right?
instead of having to install AP in the ceiling
 
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