Asus GT-AX11000/Pro, RT-AX89X, , GT-AX6000, RT-AX88U Pro, RT-AX86U/Pro, RT-AX86S, TUF-AX6000, RT-AX82U (V1/V2), TUF-AX5400, RT-AX5400 and TUF-AX4200

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Is $200 okay for AX58u?
If buying new, $200 is quite reasonable. Sometimes if you are able to stack discounts on some online stores it is possible to get it slightly lower (like maybe $190 or so I think). Quite a number of places are selling at higher than $200.
 

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https://github.com/gnuton/asuswrt-merlin.ng/releasesgnuton has done the stable relase of the Merlin fork for RT-AX82U.
Version: Stable: 386.04_0-gnuton1

I have been running beta3 without any issues. So I just upgraded to this formal release.

One good thing is that memory usage seems to be stable at below 55% (now at 264MB or 52%). I used to have much higher usage with the Koolshare mod of the Asus stock FW.


@xiaofan eh really ? Anything else running on that mod ? btw, your wireless buffer bloat has been stable ?


gnuton has some plans to port Merlin to more Asus routers including some popular models.
https://github.com/gnuton/asuswrt-merlin.ng/issues/140

Yea, hopefully xt8 would be on the list, unfortunately the chipset, as you mentioned before is pretty low performing




Especially good news since ASUS is actually sending him the TUF-AX5400 dev unit, so we can probably expect a release for it hopefully this year


Ehhh ? did they ? was it on the thread in SNBforums or something ?

I know merlin has those items but even GNUTON as well ?
 

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@xiaofan eh really ? Anything else running on that mod ? btw, your wireless buffer bloat has been stable ?

Nothing much on the mod except a few add-ons including Entware. Now I am also using Entware on the gnuton Merlin fork as well.

Bufferbloat has never really been a problem with the Asus, wothout any special configuration. I understand you are very enthusiastic about the extra Adaptive QoS settings provided by Merlin FW. However, I do not need any of them based on my testing. I got an A from Asus stock FW, the Koolshare Mod of Asus stock FW, or this gnuton fork of Merlin FW, all without any special QoS settings.

I can still get an "A" today. And the wireless speed is very fast from Waveform.com, even faster than the OOkla Speedtest.

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Ehhh ? did they ? was it on the thread in SNBforums or something ?

I know merlin has those items but even GNUTON as well ?
I think this is relatively recent. If you check the issues list on the github repository, there is an issue regarding support for TUF-AX5400 (sorry, can't post links) where he mentions he has gotten the GPL code from ASUS and will be getting a dev unit in Feburary.
 

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I think this is relatively recent. If you check the issues list on the github repository, there is an issue regarding support for TUF-AX5400 (sorry, can't post links) where he mentions he has gotten the GPL code from ASUS and will be getting a dev unit in Feburary.
You see la, post too little now cannot post relevant links la , wah lao eh....

yep found it

https://github.com/gnuton/asuswrt-merlin.ng/issues/147
 

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I got the TUF AX3000 coz the AX58U was OOS. But there is no merlin firmware for it? I tried the AX58U but failed.
 

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I got the TUF AX3000 coz the AX58U was OOS. But there is no merlin firmware for it? I tried the AX58U but failed.

No Merlin FW for TUF AX3000.
https://www.asuswrt-merlin.net/
Among the Asus AX routers, only the following models are supported by Merlin FW.
RT-AX56U 386.4
RT-AX58U 386.4
RT-AX86U 386.4
RT-AX88U 386.4
GT-AX11000 386.4
RT-AX68U 386.4

You may have to wait for the gnuton fork which now supports RT-AX82U (which is not supported by Merlin yet).
Ref: https://github.com/gnuton/asuswrt-merlin.ng/issues/140
 
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Ok. Also, can i check if router under official asus firmware can do aimesh with a router that is using merlin firmware? Still waiting for my cables to come before i connect my AX88U and AC68U to the AX3000.

But so far, really dun have the random dc.
 

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Ok. Also, can i check if router under official asus firmware can do aimesh with a router that is using merlin firmware? Still waiting for my cables to come before i connect my AX88U and AC68U to the AX3000.

But so far, really dun have the random dc.
By right should be fine to mix between merlin and stock firmware for aimesh nodes, especially since the aimesh code is from ASUS and not modified by the merlin firmware at all. But your mileage may vary. (Quite a number of posts on snbforums about people who have problems with aimesh actually, merlin firmware or not)
 

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Hi experts, got a quick question..

Am deciding between the AX86U and AX58U (also known as AX3000).. The AX86U is almost TWICE the price of the AX58U. I'm sure all WiFi 6 routers are pretty quick so speed shouldn't be an issue. What matters more to me the the RANGE as i am trying to avoid running a 2nd Asus router via AI Mesh if possible.

If i need to cover a 'big' space, i.e. 3,000sqft, will the AX86U perform significantly better than the AX58U? Is it worth almost double the price?

On Carousell *NEW* AX86U ~$400 AX58U ~$220

Not many reviews on YouTube comparing the range between the 2, and of the 1 video i found, the AX58U actually had better range. Really confused right now. Hope someone with some inputs can help me out! Cheers!
 

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Hi experts, got a quick question..

Am deciding between the AX86U and AX58U (also known as AX3000).. The AX86U is almost TWICE the price of the AX58U. I'm sure all WiFi 6 routers are pretty quick so speed shouldn't be an issue. What matters more to me the the RANGE as i am trying to avoid running a 2nd Asus router via AI Mesh if possible.

If i need to cover a 'big' space, i.e. 3,000sqft, will the AX86U perform significantly better than the AX58U? Is it worth almost double the price?

On Carousell *NEW* AX86U ~$400 AX58U ~$220

Not many reviews on YouTube comparing the range between the 2, and of the 1 video i found, the AX58U actually had better range. Really confused right now. Hope someone with some inputs can help me out! Cheers!

the extra you are paying for the AX86U is more for processing power and memory to run programs eg VPN server, DNS blackhole filter etc.

a better router can serve more simultaneous (and intensive use) clients, but it won't give you twice the range.
the range is limited by the laws of the land (assuming no router hacks), so twice the price won't get you twice the range.

wifi depends on both station and device --- generally, a fast router but slow device == slow connection at the speed of the device.

if your needs are straightforward and you are not installing apps on the router, then the AX58U/AX82U or even AX3000 will probably fit your needs.

sufficiency of router for size of coverage will depend on placement and obstaces to wifi signal eg structural beams/colums, metal/water/mirror, number of walls between the station and the client, whether the clients are mobile or stationary etc. Reason is 5GHz falls off faster than 2.4Ghz even in clear line of sight, the falloff getting worse with more obstacles, so the other criteria will be your expectation of speed (besides range), which will be determined by use and users.

Another factor is whether the 3000sqft is over a single level, or cumulative stacked floors, or a split level arrangement.

If you could post your floor plan.....
 
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Ok. Also, can i check if router under official asus firmware can do aimesh with a router that is using merlin firmware? Still waiting for my cables to come before i connect my AX88U and AC68U to the AX3000.

But so far, really dun have the random dc.

there's no official statement from Asus, but the general view at snbforums for AiMesh is, router can use Merlin, and nodes on stock.
 

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RaptureM3 posting at 1am



u @loganrunning at 3am

:s22: :s22: :s22: :spin::spin:



anyways like loganrunning has mentioned apart from the processor

the number of T/R for 5Ghz as well

and ram plays a part , if im not mistaken on multiple client stream, if i remember [ someone please correct me here ]

Edit : https://www.snbforums.com/threads/how-much-ram-is-enough-in-a-router.33304/


hence why it got the entire consumer world, at least from ratings to SNBForums to how fast it got sold out in courts etc


and if your apartment/ house, say, a sized 1000sqf with thickwalls, the signal Degradation wont drop as bad.


to be honest, if second hand is at or around $300 to 320, can wait for more promo from courts or other dealers,


seeing wifi 6e isnt gonna contribute much apart from mesh systems, [ which technically, if you have lan port in each area of the house, then its not a very strong arguement as you seen in the BTO threads ]




Hi experts, got a quick question..

Am deciding between the AX86U and AX58U (also known as AX3000).. The AX86U is almost TWICE the price of the AX58U. I'm sure all WiFi 6 routers are pretty quick so speed shouldn't be an issue. What matters more to me the the RANGE as i am trying to avoid running a 2nd Asus router via AI Mesh if possible.

If i need to cover a 'big' space, i.e. 3,000sqft, will the AX86U perform significantly better than the AX58U? Is it worth almost double the price?

On Carousell *NEW* AX86U ~$400 AX58U ~$220

Not many reviews on YouTube comparing the range between the 2, and of the 1 video i found, the AX58U actually had better range. Really confused right now. Hope someone with some inputs can help me out! Cheers!




the extra you are paying for the AX86U is more for processing power and memory to run programs eg VPN server, DNS blackhole filter etc.

a better router can serve more simultaneous (and intensive use) clients, but it won't give you twice the range.
the range is limited by the laws of the land (assuming no router hacks), so twice the price won't get you twice the range.

wifi depends on both station and device --- generally, a fast router but slow device == slow connection at the speed of the device.

if your needs are straightforward and you are not installing apps on the router, then the AX58U/AX82U or even AX3000 will probably fit your needs.

sufficiency of router for size of coverage will depend on placement and obstaces to wifi signal eg structural beams/colums, metal/water/mirror, number of walls between the station and the client, whether the clients are mobile or stationary etc. Reason is 5GHz falls off faster than 2.4Ghz even in clear line of sight, the falloff getting worse with more obstacles, so the other criteria will be your expectation of speed (besides range), which will be determined by use and users.

Another factor is whether the 3000sqft is over a single level, or cumulative stacked floors, or a split level arrangement.

If you could post your floor plan.....

there's no official statement from Asus, but the general view at snbforums for AiMesh is, router can use Merlin, and nodes on stock.
 

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Hi experts, got a quick question..

Am deciding between the AX86U and AX58U (also known as AX3000).. The AX86U is almost TWICE the price of the AX58U. I'm sure all WiFi 6 routers are pretty quick so speed shouldn't be an issue. What matters more to me the the RANGE as i am trying to avoid running a 2nd Asus router via AI Mesh if possible.

If i need to cover a 'big' space, i.e. 3,000sqft, will the AX86U perform significantly better than the AX58U? Is it worth almost double the price?

On Carousell *NEW* AX86U ~$400 AX58U ~$220

Not many reviews on YouTube comparing the range between the 2, and of the 1 video i found, the AX58U actually had better range. Really confused right now. Hope someone with some inputs can help me out! Cheers!

I believe in Singapore residential context (typical HDB or Condominium), single router can not cover 3000 sqft, so you will have to use two or more router AIMesh setup in the end. But if this is not for residential place, then I am not so sure.

You may want to post your floor plan.

RT-AX86U should have better coverage than RT-AX58U due to better RF components used, but still subject to the regulation limit.
 
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Thanks all for the input. Found a new/sealed AX86U on Carousell and manage to hoot it for a good price.

Just spend the past hour setting it up VS my previous Linksys EA8100, all i can say is WOW, what a world of difference. I am very pleased, 1 router now is able to cover my whole 1st floor with no dead spots. Running Whizcomms 300mbps via ONT (waiting for the speedboost to 500mbps in a few weeks, am able to get 100+mbps even at the furthest points in the house.

AX86U definitely a worthy investment! Might look to get a 2nd and 3rd one to run AImesh for the 2nd and 3rd floor.
 

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Thanks all for the input. Found a new/sealed AX86U on Carousell and manage to hoot it for a good price.

Just spend the past hour setting it up VS my previous Linksys EA8100, all i can say is WOW, what a world of difference. I am very pleased, 1 router now is able to cover my whole 1st floor with no dead spots. Running Whizcomms 300mbps via ONT (waiting for the speedboost to 500mbps in a few weeks, am able to get 100+mbps even at the furthest points in the house.

AX86U definitely a worthy investment! Might look to get a 2nd and 3rd one to run AImesh for the 2nd and 3rd floor.

enjoy!

experiment with it in as central a location on the 2nd floor, you may find decent coverage on 1st and 3rd.
 

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Thanks all for the input. Found a new/sealed AX86U on Carousell and manage to hoot it for a good price.

Just spend the past hour setting it up VS my previous Linksys EA8100, all i can say is WOW, what a world of difference. I am very pleased, 1 router now is able to cover my whole 1st floor with no dead spots. Running Whizcomms 300mbps via ONT (waiting for the speedboost to 500mbps in a few weeks, am able to get 100+mbps even at the furthest points in the house.

AX86U definitely a worthy investment! Might look to get a 2nd and 3rd one to run AImesh for the 2nd and 3rd floor.


lol if it OOS , im sorry, but it could have been us bros pushing here for offers

=p

however, it might be wiser to use Cables to link the 2, aimesh

3rd floor depending what is the usage etc,

can just do it as

level 1 and 3 [ 02 x 86u]
Level 2 users , not so heavy ones, use 2.4ghz [ sure more than enough ]

or 2 and 3

or stair well, inbetween 1& 2, 2&3

etc


just have the router placing in the middle of the stair well, might be more cost effective, however, your milage may vary,

do the testing on another asus aimesh [ via LAN ] first , a 2nd hand ac before investing

just my 2cents
 

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ASUS TUF-AX5400 ASUS TUF AX5400 WIFI6 ROUTER WITH DEDICATED GAMING PORT
This router so ex, $1699.00
 
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