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Actually explained quite clearly why batman wants superman dead, because he wants to prevent the possible case of superman turning against human.

But then it's not really clear why superman wants batman to stop being batman.

I guess the title of this movie is not very good, as everyone expects a bloody showdown between them.

This ish not sexplanation lah. This just force the script writer or the director own view point on audience. That why say ish too dark cause in the original BvS, batman does not want Superman dead to prevent him from turning against human, he just want to have that option available in case the scenarios like the injustice alternate universe happen. But in this moobie it seem that batman really aim to up superman lorry like that.

As for why superman want to stop batman ish more clearly describe in the comics and anime. He believe the batman secrecy and his bat justice that base on fear factor will eventually lead to tragic (which also ish true in some alternate universe that cause batman to turn rogue or like in this moobie where he start to suka suka kill those he don't trust with power). He also think Batman ish only mere human, dressing in rubber suit going around fighting super criminal ish suicide, one day sure either end up hurting innocents or hurting himself. (which ish also quite true, though batman himself not just ordinary human but can see the tragic that superman feared does happen to his side kicks like nightwing and batgal later lor. :()
 

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This ish not sexplanation lah. This just force the script writer or the director own view point on audience. That why say ish too dark cause in the original BvS, batman does not want Superman dead to prevent him from turning against human, he just want to have that option available in case the scenarios like the injustice alternate universe happen. But in this moobie it seem that batman really aim to up superman lorry like that.

As for why superman want to stop batman ish more clearly describe in the comics and anime. He believe the batman secrecy and his bat justice that base on fear factor will eventually lead to tragic (which also ish true in some alternate universe that cause batman to turn rogue or like in this moobie where he start to suka suka kill those he don't trust with power). He also think Batman ish only mere human, dressing in rubber suit going around fighting super criminal ish suicide, one day sure either end up hurting innocents or hurting himself. (which ish also quite true, though batman himself not just ordinary human but can see the tragic that superman feared does happen to his side kicks like nightwing and batgal later lor. :()
I mean in the movie's context, that's how it is explained lah

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I mean in the movie's context, that's how it is explained lah

This ish also why the DC fansee no happy with the story mah, cause the moobies too many thing all rojak so not enough time to sexplain their dark context properly mah. So end up like just batman suka find a reason want to kill Superman and Superman suka find a reason to fight batman like that and to make U-turn to make them friend throw in one doomday, end up whole plot felt very weak. :(
 

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This ish also why the DC fansee no happy with the story mah, cause the moobies too many thing all rojak so not enough time to sexplain their dark context properly mah. So end up like just batman suka find a reason want to kill Superman and Superman suka find a reason to fight batman like that and to make U-turn to make them friend throw in one doomday, end up whole plot felt very weak. :(

Im a comic fan and im happy with the movie

Not all critics are comic fans
 

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superman weakness is his stupidity. ppl weaker than him always manage to pose threat to him. when in doubt always fight from distance and observe got kryptonite or not andhe should be fight awhile, go back to sun recharge then come back fight again but he always want to save this save that, he nvr think if he die all effort wasted anyway, no point in him sacrificing himself.

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Hes raised in a redneck family

Who believes in the good of mankind, the goody goody upbringing

Bats is more of a self taught haughty distrusting type

Dc stories is more human and moral type one

Marvel more on fantasy
 

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This ish also why the DC fansee no happy with the story mah, cause the moobies too many thing all rojak so not enough time to sexplain their dark context properly mah. So end up like just batman suka find a reason want to kill Superman and Superman suka find a reason to fight batman like that and to make U-turn to make them friend throw in one doomday, end up whole plot felt very weak. :(


I love DC and Marvel comics and I'm happy with the movie, i thought its a good adaptation. i mean, if people wanna see what exactly happened in the comics, then go read the comics.

it may just be me though, but i felt that there's a good amount of character development in this as compared to the Marvel series. bar ironman, tell me which other superheroes in the MCU got develop properly? Captain is still the same as when he first appeared, so is black widow, thor etc.
 

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This ish also why the DC fansee no happy with the story mah, cause the moobies too many thing all rojak so not enough time to sexplain their dark context properly mah. So end up like just batman suka find a reason want to kill Superman and Superman suka find a reason to fight batman like that and to make U-turn to make them friend throw in one doomday, end up whole plot felt very weak. :(

I'm not a comic fan. You can hate it for not following the comic but in the movie's context the reasons are explained, so you cannot say they suka suka make them fight lah.
 

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I love DC and Marvel comics and I'm happy with the movie, i thought its a good adaptation. i mean, if people wanna see what exactly happened in the comics, then go read the comics.

it may just be me though, but i felt that there's a good amount of character development in this as compared to the Marvel series. bar ironman, tell me which other superheroes in the MCU got develop properly? Captain is still the same as when he first appeared, so is black widow, thor etc.

Watch, come out, forget.
 

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Aiyoh, of cause there will be some DC fansee loving the moobie, if no have moi ish more worried. After all we are not in some hive society or group think red dot so not all human being are alike. Even in red dot where 70% love higher mortals dip dip will still have 30% dislike them.

But just don't assume because you happen to be DC fansee and so happen to like the moobies, everyone should think the same. Moi as a comic fansee don't like the moobie but moi definitely do believe there will be some who love it dip dip lah. This ish not to change your view or force you to hate the moobie like moi do, ish just vent moi own frsutration with the moobie nia.

Anyway those happen to like the moobie ish also no need worry or felt insecure with all the bad reviews and such, no matter how poor the moobies are rated by the fansee, it will still make enough $$$ to produce more sequel. You see Turtle Ninja and Transformer get so much farts from the fansee and yet still making good $$$ continue to make sequel mah.

Take that upcoming auntie ghostbusters for example, want to bet even the reviews are going to be very bad but there will be some who love it and the moobie will still be able to make enough $$$ to produce sequel?

To many fansees who dislike the moobie they have to vent their frustration somehow if not everything stuck inside one day sure kee siao. :(
 

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I love DC and Marvel comics and I'm happy with the movie, i thought its a good adaptation. i mean, if people wanna see what exactly happened in the comics, then go read the comics.

it may just be me though, but i felt that there's a good amount of character development in this as compared to the Marvel series. bar ironman, tell me which other superheroes in the MCU got develop properly? Captain is still the same as when he first appeared, so is black widow, thor etc.

From the many reactions of Marvel fansee when avenger moobie ish launched, most Marvel fansee actually find MCU reinroduced their heroes into the moobie universe very well done. Capt America ish like Superman the icon of lawful good and leadership hero in Marvel universe so he ish not supposed to anyhow change. Won't it be even worst if the heroes suka suak change in personality just for character development sake?

Thor also actually get a pretty good reintroduction into the Marvel moobie unverise from his own moobie and his appearance into the avenger universe doesn't felt out of space. That why fansee find it easier to swallow the new changes that he ish not really a god but some kind of ancient alien mistaken by earthling as god.

Only exception maybe Hulk as there ish no recent moobies on him that why in avenger he ish backgrounded to be go under radar for many years or even more since the last hulk moobie incident to give some room for fansee to adjust and digest his reintroduction. Plus the moobie did a good job that when it come to hulk, he smashed. That why many Marvel fansee give thumb up when Captain Amercia said the same thing in the moobie. That along ish a very good character development about hulk liao cause they are making the moobie for fansee and the fansee understand Hulk smashed.

Overall, unlike the negative reaction of many DC fansee (again of cause there are some who felt positive instead) toward Man of Steel and BvS, the general reaction from Marvel fansee ish very positive so far towards most of the marvel moobies. So much so that even many DC fansee agree that Marvel treat their fansee with lespect and making moobie that give what the fansee wanted to see than to just make $$$ to give what the masses want to see. So if you ish really a Marvel fansee, then maybe you are the minority that actually dislike what they did to the marvel characters in the marvel moobie universe. :(
 
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I love DC and Marvel comics and I'm happy with the movie, i thought its a good adaptation. i mean, if people wanna see what exactly happened in the comics, then go read the comics.

it may just be me though, but i felt that there's a good amount of character development in this as compared to the Marvel series. bar ironman, tell me which other superheroes in the MCU got develop properly? Captain is still the same as when he first appeared, so is black widow, thor etc.

Wat? Cap believed in the system in his 1st movie, in Avengers 1 he start to doubt the system (shield holding hydra tech etc , Nick tell him that different time need different approach). In cap 2, Steve was right the system failed and hydra invaded shield and he stop believing in the system. In Avengers 2 you can see how his and tony 's ideas have changed. Tony went from not giving his tech to others to start to deploy his robots around the world while Cap is starting to be against any kind of messing with new tech and regulations . In Cap3 , cap will be totally against the new regulations while tony support it. Black widow changed too , she was secretive in ironman 2 and shows why she is so secretive in Avengers 1 (red in her ledger ), started to gain confidence and not be so secretive in Cap 2(declass all shield secrets inlcuding her files at the end) and in avenger 2 shown that she have moved on and can love but always put the mission 1st ( the part while she betrays Hulk ) , in Cap 3 she would rather support regulations and not hide anything anymore (but it may be because the regulation may help her find hulk and she maybe a double spy) . hulk have a lot of development too across the movies. Thor and Loki have a lot too .
 

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This is one ****ing funny movie
Batman is the biggest joke
Can't do a **** to the bad guy , only hide one corner with his little toy gun waiting to attack the bad guy
 

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What u guys opinion of this version of Superman/Clark Kent?

To me i still prefer the Christpher Reeves/Brandon Routh one...

Feel this version of Clark Kent too confrontational to my liking and not nerdy enuff. And he's too much of a "Mummy's Boy". Quite turn off reh...
 
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