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Hi everyone, i would like to invest in stocks and shares. Is SGX a good platform? I have done some trading in the oil commodity and eurgbp currency before in the avafx trading platform. Also, can recommend where i can read up and do research before i start and also any book can buy at popular bookshop for beginner to read? This i think is something new.
 

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Hi Junny,

Welcome to stocks investments :)
Why do you want to shift from trading to investments?

Have a nice day

It has been a long time since i stop trading and i try something new and learn from scratch. Would you help me answer my questions? :)
 

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Hi everyone, i would like to invest in stocks and shares. Is SGX a good platform? I have done some trading in the oil commodity and eurgbp currency before in the avafx trading platform. Also, can recommend where i can read up and do research before i start and also any book can buy at popular bookshop for beginner to read? This i think is something new.

G'day mate - welcome to the forums!

You'll find investing is a bit different from punting CFDs. CFDs are pretty much glorified gambling; investing is slow and boring, but it'll make you a lot richer in the long term.

There's a thread on here somewhere that discusses our favourite book choices, but my personal fave is "A Random Walk Down Wall Street", by Burton Malkiel; it's the bible for buy-and-hold investing, and basically says that "you can't beat the market, so buy-and-hold index funds that give you the STI's return for the absolute lowest cost".

I don't live in Singapore any more, but I'm told the national library has a pretty good selection of investment books. Amazon's also excellent if you've got a Kindle (or an iPad with the Kindle app).

As for platforms - the SGX is an exchange, not a trading platform like AvaFX. You still need a broker to trade on the SGX, and the fave around here is Standard Chartered (because they don't have a minimum on their brokerage charges; every other shop charges a minimum per trade of $15-$25).
 

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Hi everyone, i would like to invest in stocks and shares. Is SGX a good platform? I have done some trading in the oil commodity and eurgbp currency before in the avafx trading platform. Also, can recommend where i can read up and do research before i start and also any book can buy at popular bookshop for beginner to read? This i think is something new.

Welcome again to this wonderful adventurous awkward forum!

SGX is a centralized arena for all trades to occur in SG and being regulated by SGX Ltd. The reason behind its goodness is due to the only approved Securities Exchange market in SG.

Having prior knowledge in trading is definitely a plus point, I reckon you apply your current skills, Technical Analysis, in stocks and bonds markets. You may use T.A in identifying trends and forecast potential movements in momentum.

There are a few finance blogs out there (Div Warrior, Investmentmoats, AK, BullyBear etc.) to help you in a significant manner for your endeavors. Again, you may like to try out paper trade (fake/demo) or use platforms/applications such as TradeHero (mobile app) or ChartNexus (plotting graphs) in a responsible manner.

As for procurement process, "The Intelligent Investor" is the sole book that may shape your investment criterion and futuristic outlook. While there may be certain discrepancies/rebuttals, this is a book which almost never fail over the generations.

Lastly, Div. Moderator is a warning signal not to emphasize on the dividends policy/criteria/structure any other companies or players flaunt. All investment criteria are vital and mutually exclusive from one another.

Map out a diagram for yourself in 5-10 years time : Build an investing vision/mission/core value (investment trading plan), perform portfolio reviews depending on comfort zone, re-balance portfolio etc.

Final words : Pick up some solid experiences from experienced portfolio managers such as Ray Dalio, David Einhorn, Charlie Munger and Franklin Templeton.

These factors seemed like an easy task but upon execution, it is an uphill one.

Sincerely wish you all the best,
D.M
 

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Thanks @Shiny Things @dividends for the comprehensive info!! By book i mean a beginner guide...

Can i know for buying of shares are there low value amount per lot eg $100 and i can buy 1 lot or something? And which broker to look for? I do not have much capital to start maybe about 21k.
 

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hi guys i am new to stock trading as well. i would like to know what kind of stocks or what kind of equities are best suitable for newbies. Like stocks that does not require constant monitoring.

i am also looking for stocks that gives dividend payouts or other kinds of equities that gives dividend payout that are rather stable. do drop in your recommendations!

Thanks!
 

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hi guys i am new to stock trading as well. i would like to know what kind of stocks or what kind of equities are best suitable for newbies. Like stocks that does not require constant monitoring.

What you want is ETFs. An ETF - short for "exchange-traded fund" is a fund that looks like a unit trust (it invests in a big pool of shares), but you can trade it on the exchange like a stock, so it's easy to get in and out of. There are ETFs that track the Straits Times index at a very low cost (and low costs are the easiest way you can improve your investment returns); these are great, you can buy them and sit on them for decades without worrying too much, and they throw off a reliable 2-ish percent dividend.

The stock codes you're after are ES3 (the "big" STI ETF, about $3k per lot) and G3B (the "small" STI ETF, about $300 per lot).

Can i know for buying of shares are there low value amount per lot eg $100 and i can buy 1 lot or something? And which broker to look for? I do not have much capital to start maybe about 21k.

Shares that are cheap are cheap for a reason. You don't want to go speculating in crappy penny stocks just because you can't afford one lot of something larger.

I'll point you to one of my personal faves - G3B, which is the small size version of the STI ETF that I talked about above. It's $3.50-ish per share, and has a 100-share lot size, so you can start small and scale up later.
 

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G'day mate - welcome to the forums!

You'll find investing is a bit different from punting CFDs. CFDs are pretty much glorified gambling; investing is slow and boring, but it'll make you a lot richer in the long term.

There's a thread on here somewhere that discusses our favourite book choices, but my personal fave is "A Random Walk Down Wall Street", by Burton Malkiel; it's the bible for buy-and-hold investing, and basically says that "you can't beat the market, so buy-and-hold index funds that give you the STI's return for the absolute lowest cost".

I don't live in Singapore any more, but I'm told the national library has a pretty good selection of investment books. Amazon's also excellent if you've got a Kindle (or an iPad with the Kindle app).

As for platforms - the SGX is an exchange, not a trading platform like AvaFX. You still need a broker to trade on the SGX, and the fave around here is Standard Chartered (because they don't have a minimum on their brokerage charges; every other shop charges a minimum per trade of $15-$25).

Something unrelated, but where do you currently live in Shiny Things?
 

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Shares that are cheap are cheap for a reason. You don't want to go speculating in crappy penny stocks just because you can't afford one lot of something larger.

I'll point you to one of my personal faves - G3B, which is the small size version of the STI ETF that I talked about above. It's $3.50-ish per share, and has a 100-share lot size, so you can start small and scale up later.

Thanks for sharing on the G3B, maybe i can try that. Any other STI ETF that are suitable for beginners? Like for example, since its 3.50-ish per share and has a 100-share lot size, means i have to pay $350 just to buy a lot. What are the risks to lose this $350 and/or what are the returns? How do i monitor this?

Also, for beginners, besides standard chartered that doesn't impose a fee for its broker service, what other brokers are there which is popular for beginners to engage? And is there a guide like for beginners that can read up on after they have an account with SGX? Therefore, i am asking for a beginners guide that is sold in popular bookstore, not that complicated but easier to understand.
 

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i am also looking for stocks that gives dividend payouts or other kinds of equities that gives dividend payout that are rather stable. do drop in your recommendations!

Thanks!
DONT BE HARD UP OVER DIVIDEND!:s13:
 

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junny1 wrote:

Can i know for buying of shares are there low value amount per lot eg $100 and i can buy 1 lot or something? And which broker to look for? I do not have much capital to start maybe about 21k.

SPLIT your positions into at least 5 baskets
21k/5 - 4k each.
 

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Books
Investing in your 20s and 30s for dummies👍

Security Analysis - Graham & Dodd

The Intelligent Investor - Graham 👍

Investment Valuation - Damodaran

Valuation - Mckinsey

Richest man in babylon👍

Think and Grow Rich - Napoleon Hill👍

Market never forgets, but people do - Ken Fisher

Common stocks and uncommon profits - Philip Fisher

Hi TS, hope it helps :)

Cheers
 

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Books
Investing in your 20s and 30s for dummies👍

Security Analysis - Graham & Dodd

The Intelligent Investor - Graham 👍

Investment Valuation - Damodaran

Valuation - Mckinsey

Richest man in babylon👍

Think and Grow Rich - Napoleon Hill👍

Market never forgets, but people do - Ken Fisher

Common stocks and uncommon profits - Philip Fisher

Hi TS, hope it helps :)

Cheers

Thank you very much
 

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Thanks for sharing on the G3B, maybe i can try that. Any other STI ETF that are suitable for beginners? Like for example, since its 3.50-ish per share and has a 100-share lot size, means i have to pay $350 just to buy a lot.

No; G3B is your best bet.

What are the risks to lose this $350 and/or what are the returns? How do i monitor this?

OK, here's the thing: there is literally no risk of losing your entire $350. Because the ETF owns every stock in the STI, that means every stock in the STI would have to go bankrupt for you to lose all your money.

The returns are harder to define. The rule of thumb is that stocks average about 7% per year, but the volatility is large - anywhere between -10% and +20% is a "normal year" for stocks. Last year's massive 30% run-up in the S&P 500 was only slightly outside the "normal" range.

This is why you should be buying and holding stocks for the LONG term - preferably all the way until you retire. If you need the money in less than five years, you should park it in bonds, or in the bank.

Also, for beginners, besides standard chartered that doesn't impose a fee for its broker service, what other brokers are there which is popular for beginners to engage?

There are other brokers - DBS Vickers, Poems, Saxo Markets, UOBKH, OCBC Securities, blah blah blah - but all of them are worse than Standard Chartered in one way or another. Higher costs; hidden fees; worse product offerings. Basically, don't bother. Just use Stanchart.

(The exception is Interactive Brokers, which is better than Stanchart, but it's famously user-unfriendly so it's not good for beginners.)

And is there a guide like for beginners that can read up on after they have an account with SGX? Therefore, i am asking for a beginners guide that is sold in popular bookstore, not that complicated but easier to understand.

I don't have a good answer to this one. Anyone know if there's an "SGX For Dummies" or something like that?

Something unrelated, but where do you currently live in Shiny Things?

I live in the wild wild west; a state that's untouchable like Eliot Ness. Turn your speakers up to 11 and hit play:



(Sorry Katy Perry and David Lee Roth fans, but California Love is the best song ever about California.)
 

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No; G3B is your best bet.



OK, here's the thing: there is literally no risk of losing your entire $350. Because the ETF owns every stock in the STI, that means every stock in the STI would have to go bankrupt for you to lose all your money.

The returns are harder to define. The rule of thumb is that stocks average about 7% per year, but the volatility is large - anywhere between -10% and +20% is a "normal year" for stocks. Last year's massive 30% run-up in the S&P 500 was only slightly outside the "normal" range.

This is why you should be buying and holding stocks for the LONG term - preferably all the way until you retire. If you need the money in less than five years, you should park it in bonds, or in the bank.



There are other brokers - DBS Vickers, Poems, Saxo Markets, UOBKH, OCBC Securities, blah blah blah - but all of them are worse than Standard Chartered in one way or another. Higher costs; hidden fees; worse product offerings. Basically, don't bother. Just use Stanchart.

(The exception is Interactive Brokers, which is better than Stanchart, but it's famously user-unfriendly so it's not good for beginners.)



I don't have a good answer to this one. Anyone know if there's an "SGX For Dummies" or something like that?



I live in the wild wild west; a state that's untouchable like Eliot Ness. Turn your speakers up to 11 and hit play:



(Sorry Katy Perry and David Lee Roth fans, but California Love is the best song ever about California.)

What about short term gains? Like monitoring the amount eg those we on tv and news. Say 3.59 +1.22 then sell for profit
 

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How do i open an account with standard chartered and cdp? Can be done online??
 
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