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[royfrosty]

Those are almost always mismatched with weak GPUs or some other strange config.

Not only that. They skimp on PSU, using hitachi or toshiba hdd, uber cheap vios casing and probably with a weak gpu.

 

[royfrosty]

Hey yeap Shadow84 you are right, I am looking for those pre-built models. Is PC Theme known for such stuff?

Bro you got to understand something. Those ready mades are not worth it. They wont tell you what is inside. Like example

500gb hdd. They wont tell you the brand or specs for it. Thats where they cut some corners to cut cost and looks attractive.

Just take any one of our list and tell them you want this components.

 

[shadow84]

Hey yeap Shadow84 you are right, I am looking for those pre-built models. Is PC Theme known for such stuff?

For whatever price you gonna get for that particular 'standard' model, you are better off self choosing the parts and DIY urself as well. Building it is what makes DIY fun, not buying DIY stuff nia.

 

[ykgoh]

Not only that. They skimp on PSU, using hitachi or toshiba hdd, uber cheap vios casing and probably with a weak gpu.

Actually Hitachi HDD like pretty reliable leh according to BackBlaze. See: BackBlaze Analyzes Hard Drive Failure Rates, Dubs Hitachi the Most Reliable Brand | Maximum PC

But DIYers always prefer WD. How much worse is Toshiba to Seagate?

I'm curious why Vios casings are bad. The layout? Size? Material used? Non-removable drive cage? Top-mount/bottom-mount for PSU? Tool-free design?

Are certain casings or design better or worse at heat retention and dispersion? Due to material or air intake vents? More mesh + fans = better airflow and cooling?

To me as a noob, casings all look and perform similarly. Major consideration and difference is what size motherboard is supported (atx or matx or mini-itx, slim or regular)

 

[royfrosty]

Actually Hitachi HDD like pretty reliable leh according to BackBlaze. See: BackBlaze Analyzes Hard Drive Failure Rates, Dubs Hitachi the Most Reliable Brand | Maximum PC

But DIYers always prefer WD. How much worse is Toshiba to Seagate?

I'm curious why Vios casings are bad. The layout? Size? Material used? Non-removable drive cage? Top-mount/bottom-mount for PSU? Tool-free design?

Are certain casings or design better or worse at heat retention and dispersion? Due to material or air intake vents? More mesh + fans = better airflow and cooling?

To me as a noob, casings all look and perform similarly. Major consideration and difference is what size motherboard is supported (atx or matx or mini-itx, slim or regular)

I wont comment much on hdd. Cause i myself very suay on hdd. But most failure rate will go to toshiba.

For chassis. There is a difference between a cheap chassis to an expensive chassis.

Just my general rule on chassis. Anything below SRP of $128 is consider cheap chassis. Anything above will be better in terms of,

1) Material used. Cheap chassis tends to have lesser alloy mixed. It tends to bend easily if it has not been handled properly. Also certain chassis has more plastic over metal.

2) Aluminium chassis such as Lianli chassis is full alu. They are usually tooless and very easy to work with imo. Strong, and very solid finishing. Usually quite expensive also.

3) Features. Things like expansion slots. Can it accept dual/tri/quad sli or xfire? Features like noise dampening materials. Etc

4) Removable hdd cage. Good for mid tower size. Making more airflow and also able to get bigger clearance for longer gpus. Such as Sapphire TriX, giga windforce and any other models that have 3 fans such as triFrozr by msi.

5) Rubber grommets. Rubber grommets helps in making the wires look neater and best of all stealth.

6) Sufficient ample space to wire manage at the back. Big enough and able to close the lid back without any difficulties.

7) Ability to mount Radiators. Such as 240mm 360mm or 280mm 420mm radiators.

 

[Maeda_Toshiie]

Actually Hitachi HDD like pretty reliable leh according to BackBlaze. See: BackBlaze Analyzes Hard Drive Failure Rates, Dubs Hitachi the Most Reliable Brand | Maximum PC

But DIYers always prefer WD. How much worse is Toshiba to Seagate?

I'm curious why Vios casings are bad. The layout? Size? Material used? Non-removable drive cage? Top-mount/bottom-mount for PSU? Tool-free design?

Are certain casings or design better or worse at heat retention and dispersion? Due to material or air intake vents? More mesh + fans = better airflow and cooling?

To me as a noob, casings all look and perform similarly. Major consideration and difference is what size motherboard is supported (atx or matx or mini-itx, slim or regular)

Hitachi Deskstar -> Deathstar
Seagate -> Sickgate/ Suckgate
Samsung -> Swansong (when it was making mechanical drives)

WD doesn't inspire such catchy (amusing?) nicks, so its big fails tend to stick less on the minds of consumers, or that WD is good at marketing their Blacks and Velociraptors.

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I'm less concerned with the harddrives in those prebuilds, than the PSU that get stuffed in. Most consumers don't know much about PSUs, and PSUs is just about the only component where you can buy an extremely cheap 'generic' unit which can fail in a spectacular fashion. The only other cheap 'generic' component is the optical drive, and those hardly ever fail, let alone take the rest of the system down as well.

 

[Maeda_Toshiie]

Hey yeap Shadow84 you are right, I am looking for those pre-built models. Is PC Theme known for such stuff?

What I recommend is this: go to PCThemes with the recommended component list; go find Yilong and tell him that you want to build the system based on the list, and ask for them to assemble it you.

 

[Jian19]

1.1k-1.3k everything in ~

i5-4440 + Asrock h81m hds ~ $300
Crucial 8gb ddr3 ~ $90
Crucial m500 120gb ssd ~ $115
Wd blue 1tb ~ $74
Zotac gtx750 ti ~ $205
Samsung oem drive ~ $21
Fsp aurum s 500w 80+ gold ~ $89
Corsair Carbide Spec-02 ~ $84
Win7 64 oem ~ $115

Optional ~ Dell s2340l ~ $220

$1093/$1313 buy and DIY @ tradepac ask for discount. Can bring to gs shop ask him help u assemble @ a fee if u not sure how to DIY ~

 

[waiken]

my quite old wd 1tb blue 32mb died on me while other even older hdd; a seagate 320gb n samsung 500g still surviving

 

[DeenzX]

I have one Hitachi 250GB from nearly 5+ years ago and now it is still working in my new mITX rig.

 

[Ark Law]

Actually Hitachi HDD like pretty reliable leh according to BackBlaze. See: BackBlaze Analyzes Hard Drive Failure Rates, Dubs Hitachi the Most Reliable Brand | Maximum PC

30:18

And Dispelling Backblaze's HDD Reliability Myth - The Real Story Covered

End of fu*king story

 

[kjke1986]

1.1k-1.3k everything in ~

i5-4440 + Asrock h81m hds ~ $300
Crucial 8gb ddr3 ~ $90
Crucial m500 120gb ssd ~ $115
Wd blue 1tb ~ $74
Zotac gtx750 ti ~ $205
Samsung oem drive ~ $21
Fsp aurum s 500w 80+ gold ~ $89
Corsair Carbide Spec-02 ~ $84
Win7 64 oem ~ $115

Optional ~ Dell s2340l ~ $220

$1093/$1313 buy and DIY @ tradepac ask for discount. Can bring to gs shop ask him help u assemble @ a fee if u not sure how to DIY ~

Many thanks for the list.

 

[gadgets1234]

Do you guys go Sim Lim or the brand eg Hitachi or some outside repair shop to fix problem with your item?