Can Buddhist monks own and drive luxury cars?

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if u read the rules from Buddha, there r 250 rules for monks and 348 rules for nuns.

比丘 Bhikkhu 戒有二五〇戒,比丘尼 Bhikkhunī 戒有三四八戒。

However, there is also one big rule for all Buddhist practitioners is not to comment or disrespect any Monks or Nuns.

This will create distrust for Buddhism as a religion.

Monks or Nuns are supposedly to be the spoken person for Buddha, after Buddha attained Nirvana. Speaking against Monks or Nuns is equal to speaking against Buddha himself.

if Monks or Nuns have done wrong, they will receive their punishment as the effect of Karma.

if it's small wrong, they may lose all the good karma they've cultivate in their entire life and their cultivation may be void.

if it's big wrong, they may end up reborning in the 3 bad realm : animals, hungry ghosts and hell-dwellers



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sorry.. simi 6 jackfruits?

btw i am ready and happy to go to avici hell if what i say about monks and nuns is spurious. buddhism is another manmade religion anyways
 

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It’s just another form of transport. It’s the mentality, not the materiality that matters.
 

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buddha not parinirvana liao??.... he is not king yama and not a surveillance camera i think?

govt doesnt watch that closely, in registrar of society of course religious society is harder and slower to get approved..but after approval.. annual returns and accounts.. u know the bengali accounting la... u see all the temples.. especially those with big annual bidding festivals.. temple chairman with 400k paycheck and above.... oh well~~
I think he is better than surveillance camera. Some monks say after we made the vow to become buddhists, we will have at least 6 guardians per person watching us. I think this is why my karma comes very fast when I have evil thoughts.

Those you mentioned are taoism temples, how they operate I don't know. The buddhism temple I go to has chairman but no pay. All members in mgmt committee are volunteers, no pay but got work.
 

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Is there a rule against?

IMHO, in some organisations, they have specific rules on such behaviour.

Otherwise religion-wise, monks also need to abide by Eight Precepts that include abstinence from luxury.

Morally, the individual will know his own intentions and bear the consequences accordingly
 

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Monks/Nuns won’t go and buy luxurious stuff. But if it’s gifted to them by their supporters, just accept their good gesture.

By default, monks/nuns don’t have much savings. All the fund raising need to be used to support the monasteries. Monasteries also need money to run, got to take care of the monks/nuns living inside too.
 

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in prev generation.. monk and nun have "god children" and even "favourite" disciple... after which the title deed of temple and the resources.. monies are passed to after their death
Temples and monasteries aren't really the same.

In General,
Temple that you refers to here is related to Deities. Sometimes, they may have Buddha / Boddhisattva statues in place but usually it is for common people to pay respects / pray too.

Monasteries are related to practitioners usually gathered together under the buddhist Teaching. These practitioners don't handle money directly and follow strict rules called patimokkha. Anything related to resources and Money are passed to Lay people, though the abbot may have final say on what to do with the resources for the benefits of sentient beings. AFAIK.
 

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in prev generation.. monk and nun have "god children" and even "favourite" disciple... after which the title deed of temple and the resources.. monies are passed to after their death
I know of a temple that’s like this but the god-children are all lay practitioners that live in the temple the whole life, living close to a monastic lifestyle.

Of course everything got bad sheeps. We need to observe ourselves and decide if the practitioners are really good followers of the Dharma before we support them.
 

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Can
Actually any brand also can
It just so happens that Cc and pm nearer to temple
 

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I think he is better than surveillance camera. Some monks say after we made the vow to become buddhists, we will have at least 6 guardians per person watching us. I think this is why my karma comes very fast when I have evil thoughts.

Those you mentioned are taoism temples, how they operate I don't know. The buddhism temple I go to has chairman but no pay. All members in mgmt committee are volunteers, no pay but got work.
then your buddhism temple very good, can recommend to others who are in it for the faith.

Temples and monasteries aren't really the same.

In General,
Temple that you refers to here is related to Deities. Sometimes, they may have Buddha / Boddhisattva statues in place but usually it is for common people to pay respects / pray too.

Monasteries are related to practitioners usually gathered together under the buddhist Teaching. These practitioners don't handle money directly and follow strict rules called patimokkha. Anything related to resources and Money are passed to Lay people, though the abbot may have final say on what to do with the resources for the benefits of sentient beings. AFAIK.

erm.. in actual fact yes the terms should be defined differently.. but in singapore it is some what rather interchangeable. buddhist temple has ancestor plaque tablet "biz" model? oh well~~.. i'm just a bit confused... as in the spirit of buddhist person die liao.. will need to have such plaques like taoist?? so in the end did they get sent up to pureland or do they go to hell... or they can choose to reside on earth inside a wooden tablet??
 

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Is there a rule against?
As long as they have no attachment. If the monks consider cars as a form of transport and put it to good use like convenience them to propagate the Dharma to benefit more sentient beings, why not? Some choose luxury cars for safety reason or is a gift from devotees. A monk who drives around to propagate Buddhism has more merits than a monk who retreats in the forest. There was a high monk said that he wished he could fly a plane so that he could give Dharma talk all over the world. It all depends on their intention of having a car.

I know a nun whose car is a gift from her mum.
 

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He has paid a price for it by serving jail terms, under human laws. After he die, he has to face karma created by himself.

Ya boyfriend

He is still abbot of foo hai Chan after so many years. Read that last time they found hundreds of gay porn in his condo. This kind of thing not easy to quit...he should still be gaying regularly...

Every dollar the devotees donate, they are also donating a gigolo penis into his anus. The place is probably a sanctuary for gay Buddhists.
 

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As long as they have no attachment. If the monks consider cars as a form of transport and put it to good use like convenience them to propagate the Dharma to benefit more sentient beings, why not? Some choose luxury cars for safety reason or is a gift from devotees. A monk who drives around to propagate Buddhism has more merits than a monk who retreats in the forest. There was a high monk said that he wished he could fly a plane so that he could give Dharma talk all over the world. It all depends on their intention of having a car.

I know a nun whose car is a gift from her mum.
everything can be easily called "dharma" talk these days... if only motivations were always that pure and untainted. how much of "dharma" talk is "the real good legit stuff", and how much of it is "what people and customers want to hear?"
 

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erm.. in actual fact yes the terms should be defined differently.. but in singapore it is some what rather interchangeable. buddhist temple has ancestor plaque tablet "biz" model? oh well~~.. i'm just a bit confused... as in the spirit of buddhist person die liao.. will need to have such plaques like taoist?? so in the end did they get sent up to pureland or do they go to hell... or they can choose to reside on earth inside a wooden tablet??

Ancestral worship is not buddhist practice - but praying for for ancestors to be liberated from Samsara is a common Buddhist practice.

Not all beings are able to be liberated from Samsara due to ignorance. Having a plaque there there's nothing wrong, hope that the the ancestors can get liberated eventually.

Of course, some people mix it up and do ancestral practices, but as long as it gives them comfort and don't harm anybody, just let it be.
 

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What u are refering is still in the realm of samsara? Not enlightenment yet?

回天之路 meaning to 4 realms that have exit the reincarnation (samsara) cycles :

四道就是
👉声闻道、Śrāvaka
👉缘觉道、Pratyekabuddhayāna
👉菩萨道、Bodhisattva
👉佛道。Buddha

out of the four realm, only Buddha realm attained Nirvana stage.

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sorry.. simi 6 jackfruits?

btw i am ready and happy to go to avici hell if what i say about monks and nuns is spurious. buddhism is another manmade religion anyways

Buddhism is definitely not man made.

the more u go in depth into Buddhism, the more u realise it's beyond human intelligence to write the Sutra.

Human intelligence is like still using abacus vs supercomputer as in the intelligence (the Chinese word is 般若 instead of 智慧,cuz 智慧 refer to human intelligence, 般若 refer to Buddha/ Bodhisattva intelligence) in the Sutra.

to make a comparison, is like using the intelligence of the smartest animal in animal realm to compare the intelligence of an ordinary human in human realm, it's just beyond the intelligence for animal to understand a human's thought.


sorry.. simi 6 jackfruits?

Pāramitā, “波罗蜜” in Mahāyāna (“Greater Vehicle”) Buddhism, any of the perfections, or transcendental virtues, practiced by bodhisattvas (“Buddhas-to-be”) in advanced stages of their path toward enlightenment.

The six virtues are generosity (dāna-pāramitā); morality (śīla-pāramitā); perseverance (kṣānti-pāramitā); vigour (vīrya-pāramitā); meditation, or concentration (dhyāna-pāramitā); and wisdom (prajñā-pāramitā). Some lists expand the virtues to 10 by adding skill in the means of helping others (upāya [kauśalya]-pāramitās), profound resolution to produce enlightenment (praṇidhāna-pāramitā), perfection of the 10 powers (bala-pāramitā), and practice of transcendent knowledge (jñāna-pāramitā).

“波罗蜜”是佛教的名词,完整的发音音节是波罗蜜多(paramita),梵音为“波罗”,汉译为“彼岸”,“蜜”译为“到”,“多”是词尾的拖音,译为“了”。汉文合起来是“到彼岸了”。在汉语使用中,也常省掉尾音,就成了“波罗蜜”。

“波罗蜜多”即渡到彼岸的修行方法有很多,在大乘佛教常说为“六波罗蜜”。

六波罗蜜是菩萨的行为。六波罗蜜,意思是度到彼岸;另一个意思是完成了事情。凡夫在生死苦海中浮沉,一旦游到岸边,登上陆地就安全、安稳,绝不会再度在生死海中浮沉,所以称为度到彼岸。佛陀说众生在生死苦海中飘浮,没法游到安全之陆地上,比喻修行者断除了烦恼,就是已经出离了生死轮回,到达没有生死之彼岸,称为波罗蜜。


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