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You need to research more.

Do some googling.

A good motherboard does not give you any form of performance value when gaming.

Its the GPU.

As i said not everyone knows so much about specs tech and computer related stuff :). I am a newbie i brought many desktop before all are pre build,like HP Acer and dell costing over 1.8K what i found out is that mostly pre build ready set have very good motherbroad
 

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Yes. Motherboard is just stuff you connect different parts together, getting a $500 Asus ROG motherboard doesn't give you 0.1fps gain in games over an $80 Biostar motherboard. Price difference are just features like more USB3, number of HDD you can setup, built-in wireless, fancy designs etc.

Generally recommendation skeleton below

Mainstream Gaming PC:
Intel i5
8GB RAM
R270X/GTX750ti (1080p)
R280X/GTX760 (1080p AAA titles)
R290/GTX780 (1440p & up)

Light Gaming PC:
Intel Pentium/i3
4GB RAM
GTX750 to GTX750ti

Thank you alots i learn many NEW things from u really appreciate it's BRO, i still got one ques is that what is a dedicated graphic card that a pre build pc means? for example a HP pre build with a dedicated 2GB graphic cards means? and a intergrated 2GB means? which one is more powerful?
 

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As i said not everyone knows so much about specs tech and computer related stuff :). I am a newbie i brought many desktop before all are pre build,like HP Acer and dell costing over 1.8K what i found out is that mostly pre build ready set have very good motherbroad

Not really. OEM motherboards tend to skimp on features like only having PCI-E 2.0 X16 slots and have no UEFI bios. They almost always come in a M-ATX format to cut costs and lack features that comes with aftermarket motherboards like better MOSFETs, better sound chips etc.
 

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A motherboard only serves to allow all components of your rig to interact with each other and has nothing to do with overall performance. The components used like mainly the GPU and to some extent, the CPU are the true contributing factors in determining gaming performance. As games tend to rely on GPU performance, a better GPU will lead to large increases in gaming performance.

Thank you very much at least now i know i should go for a better gaphic card vs motherbroad :)
 

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Thank you alots i learn many NEW things from u really appreciate it's BRO, i still got one ques is that what is a dedicated graphic card that a pre build pc means? for example a HP pre build with a dedicated 2GB graphic cards means? and a intergrated 2GB means? which one is more powerful?

Dedicated graphics simply means that the system has a GPU instead of using crappy Intel HD graphics for your games. The 2GB refers to the amount of VRAM on the GPU. However, this is not so important as OEM makers almost always use a weak entry level GPU which is incapable of making full use of the 2GB VRAM. Hence, the GPU chipset is more important than the VRAM as for example, a GTX 470 with 1.28GB VRAM will always own a GT 640 with 4GB VRAM due to the large differences in the chipsets used.
 

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As i said not everyone knows so much about specs tech and computer related stuff :). I am a newbie i brought many desktop before all are pre build,like HP Acer and dell costing over 1.8K what i found out is that mostly pre build ready set have very good motherbroad

Not to scold you or anything, but being a newbie doesnt mean you can use it as an excuse not to do ur own research.

Since there is a recommended list of parts for you, i suggest you youtube for linustechtips and input each part. He should have reviewed most of the parts. If dun have, then find other good reviewers (typically those with high view counts). From there, learn what is it all about and you will get to know better.

Simply saying not everyone knows so much sort of look like an excuse to me. Everyone started knowing nothing, but with time n researching, you will learn something for sure.

My 2 cents.
 

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Dedicated graphics simply means that the system has a GPU instead of using crappy Intel HD graphics for your games. The 2GB refers to the amount of VRAM on the GPU. However, this is not so important as OEM makers almost always use a weak entry level GPU which is incapable of making full use of the 2GB VRAM. Hence, the GPU chipset is more important than the VRAM as for example, a GTX 470 with 1.28GB VRAM will always own a GT 640 with 4GB VRAM due to the large differences in the chipsets used.

Woo i see thank you very much bro so that means a Geforce Gt635 2GB (OEM) VS MSI GTX 750 1GB Intergrated card MSI still performance better than GT635?
 

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Not to scold you or anything, but being a newbie doesnt mean you can use it as an excuse not to do ur own research.

Since there is a recommended list of parts for you, i suggest you youtube for linustechtips and input each part. He should have reviewed most of the parts. If dun have, then find other good reviewers (typically those with high view counts). From there, learn what is it all about and you will get to know better.

Simply saying not everyone knows so much sort of look like an excuse to me. Everyone started knowing nothing, but with time n researching, you will learn something for sure.

My 2 cents.

Roger that sorry Bro and thank for pointing out will do more research
 

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Woo i see thank you very much bro so that means a Geforce Gt635 2GB (OEM) VS MSI GTX 750 1GB Intergrated card MSI still performance better than GT635?

The architecture is more impt than the VRAM. Only when gaming at high res, above 1080p, then VRAM is impt. But of coz, at that stage, architecture is still more impt as well.
 

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Roger that sorry Bro and thank for pointing out will do more research

No need be sorry... I spent 3 months watching youtube on almost all parts within 1-3 yrs release just to learn and buy my rig..
 

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Woo i see thank you very much bro so that means a Geforce Gt635 2GB (OEM) VS MSI GTX 750 1GB Intergrated card MSI still performance better than GT635?

GeForce GTX 750 vs GT 635

You decide.

Also, some OEMs have been known to use laptop GPUs (The model name has a 'M' suffix at the back.) in their desktops. These GPUs have a performance that is a mere shadow of the desktop versions.
 

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GeForce GTX 750 vs GT 635

You decide.

Also, some OEMs have been known to use laptop GPUs (The model name has a 'M' suffix at the back.) in their desktops. These GPUs have a performance that is a mere shadow of the desktop versions.
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I NEARLY wanted to buy this after months of thinking.....because of the 2GB graphi card... BRO seriously i needs to thank you got chance buy u coffee u are sooooo helpful thank
 
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The architecture is more impt than the VRAM. Only when gaming at high res, above 1080p, then VRAM is impt. But of coz, at that stage, architecture is still more impt as well.

Thank you bro i can understand a bit already so a pre build desktop graphic are not as good as what they show
 

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I NEARLY wanted to buy this after months of thinking.....because of the 2GB graphi card... BRO seriously i needs to thank you got chance buy u coffee u are sooooo helpful thank

Wah, if you buy that Slimline you will be gg liao. At least if you buy a tower PC still can change PSU and GPU. That Slimline on the other hand will be a PITA to upgrade due to serious space constraints.
 

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Wah, if you buy that Slimline you will be gg liao. At least if you buy a tower PC still can change PSU and GPU. That Slimline on the other hand will be a PITA to upgrade due to serious space constraints.

So that means the 2GB graphics card are unless OMG i get fooled all this years with pre build pc.... Thank ok now i know how to do
A I5 motherbroad + A good intergrated graphics cards + 8 ram above = A good game PC?
 

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So that means the 2GB graphics card are unless OMG i get fooled all this years with pre build pc.... Thank ok now i know how to do
A I5 motherbroad + A good intergrated graphics cards + 8 ram above = A good game PC?

+ SSD for fast loading.(OEM makers will also skimp on this.)
GPU will have to see what games you play.
8GB is generally more than enough for gaming.
 

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Not to scold you or anything, but being a newbie doesnt mean you can use it as an excuse not to do ur own research.

Since there is a recommended list of parts for you, i suggest you youtube for linustechtips and input each part. He should have reviewed most of the parts. If dun have, then find other good reviewers (typically those with high view counts). From there, learn what is it all about and you will get to know better.

Simply saying not everyone knows so much sort of look like an excuse to me. Everyone started knowing nothing, but with time n researching, you will learn something for sure.

My 2 cents.

linustechtips has another channel also quite nice : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0vBXGSyV14uvJ4hECDOl0Q
 
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