Careers not based on academics?

[livilivi]

Hi! I'm not sure if this is the right forum but ya.
I'm actually wondering what kind of jobs based on skills, can become career one? I'm definitely leaving out stuffs like accounting, engineers etc.
More like mmmm, from part time job then slowly become my future career type? Is there even such a thing? LOL

 

[Bedokian]

Your question would be more appropriately answered in the Academic Concerns section.

Just to let you know that even skills-based jobs require some certification, and with it, some academic components. Even if you are in jobs such as F&B, retail and landscaping sectors, it is recommended to have the relevant WSQ certifications.

Frankly, you won't go far in your career if you do not go for any courses, academic or vocational wise. You may have heard of a story of some hotel bellboy becoming the CEO of a hotel, but underneath that he would have probably been sent for courses and such, to prepare him for a bigger role as he progresses along his career.

Unless, if you are good in sports, or being in the artistic side (singer, artist, etc.) but still, you cannot escape from studying (e.g. retired sportspeople require a coaching qualification to further their career as coaches).

 

[floralgaragesg]

Go for sales type job can have good progression. Can also look at things like carpentry if you interested if your skills become very good you can earn big bucks. There's this carpenter in the US modify homes and resell them he makes a few million a year.

 

[freebie01]

Generic education sends you down a linear path (that's not to say that education is unimportant). If you're looking for a good start, sales jobs would be great. To give better advice, what's your background?

 

[Darkzi0n]

Sales
Sports
Entertainment

 

[koxinga]

MMA fighter. Pure skill. Instant appraisal if you are not good enough.

 

[wahkao3]

sales is the best

Sales department is the most useless.Throw all the hardwork to backend,wine and dine with customer


The sales department is the most useless.

From what I observe in many companies, sales job are the most relax jobs around. Report show face to office in the morning, afternoon disappear. They can even dont report to work and openly go wine and dine, or play golf with customers on company's expense. Sometimes can even stay at home to sleep. And the boss wont care less. When the sales are down, they blame the economy, blame the product except themselves.

And the technical/back end guys have to slog to meet the project dateline, rush for delivery. Program and debug the software till the cows come home. Work OT like a dog and dont get paid extra OT pay. Sometimes even worse, the sales guy promise the customer the earth and the sky, and the poor technical guy have to find ways and means to deliver as promised by the sales guy.

At the end of the day, the boss will usually compliment the sales guy for securing the order. They get promoted faster. While the technical/back end guy get only a peanut 5% increment. Sometimes not enuff to even beat inflation.

Oh yea, not forgetting their transport allowance. A fresh grad with $3k can earn additional $1k with transport allowance. Where got so good, fresh grad earn $4k?

Comparing the amount of work and hours sales people have to put in to technical/back end people, do you think it is unfair? Do you face this situation at work too?



GPGT,see them wine and dine with customer like this

 

[koxinga]

The MD of a storage company told me his salesmen can come in any time, play golf they want as long as targets are met. If they don't meet within 1 quarter, warning. If 2nd consecutive quarter no meet, fired. Easy.
MMA fighter better.

 

[Mecisteus]

even though i prefer mma to boxing, i know the richest mma fighter cant even compete with the winnings of mayweather. i think even all the winnings of all the fights of anderson silva cant match his 1 night of recent winnings.

so i guess boxing is the most rewarding skill based career.

 

[thatthing]

people are going around saying certs dont equate to how high your position is or how much you make. yet companies are looking at our certs BEFORE even giving u a chance for an interview; to show them your skills, personality etc.

two-faced. but i won't blame them, everybody is 2 faced, esp in the corporate world bottom line, work hard earn hard. with a pinch of luck

 

[terryhoho]

sales is the best

Sales department is the most useless.Throw all the hardwork to backend,wine and dine with customer


The sales department is the most useless.

From what I observe in many companies, sales job are the most relax jobs around. Report show face to office in the morning, afternoon disappear. They can even dont report to work and openly go wine and dine, or play golf with customers on company's expense. Sometimes can even stay at home to sleep. And the boss wont care less. When the sales are down, they blame the economy, blame the product except themselves.

And the technical/back end guys have to slog to meet the project dateline, rush for delivery. Program and debug the software till the cows come home. Work OT like a dog and dont get paid extra OT pay. Sometimes even worse, the sales guy promise the customer the earth and the sky, and the poor technical guy have to find ways and means to deliver as promised by the sales guy.

At the end of the day, the boss will usually compliment the sales guy for securing the order. They get promoted faster. While the technical/back end guy get only a peanut 5% increment. Sometimes not enuff to even beat inflation.

Oh yea, not forgetting their transport allowance. A fresh grad with $3k can earn additional $1k with transport allowance. Where got so good, fresh grad earn $4k?

Comparing the amount of work and hours sales people have to put in to technical/back end people, do you think it is unfair? Do you face this situation at work too?



GPGT,see them wine and dine with customer like this

Company need sales people to sell out the product/service.
If not there's no revenue to distribute to those doing admin.

Interested in sales jobs, come pm me with your basic resume LOL