China GT上海站发生重大撞车起火事故,“救援人员因害怕,放下灭火器”,对手弃赛冲入火海救人

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:o 🍦 :frown:

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depends how much the crew is paid. if pay your son $10/hr, u will ask ur son go risk life and put out the fire?
I think the question should be,

"Your son is told the job pays $10/hr, his role, if there is a fire, is to take the fire extinguisher and run towards it and put out the flames as best he can. If your son is not willing to take the risk for $10/hr, then perhaps don't accept the job?".

If your house is on fire, is it ok if the SCDF firefighter says he's not risking his life for $3000/mth by running into your house to save the occupants?

Everyone has a choice.

If the pay does not justify the risk, then the event organisers will be left with zero manpower so either increase the pay or abandon the race.
 

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I think the question should be,

"Your son is told the job pays $10/hr, his role, if there is a fire, is to take the fire extinguisher and run towards it and put out the flames as best he can. If your son is not willing to take the risk for $10/hr, then perhaps don't accept the job?".

If your house is on fire, is it ok if the SCDF firefighter says he's not risking his life for $3000/mth by running into your house to save the occupants?

Everyone has a choice.

If the pay does not justify the risk, then the event organisers will be left with zero manpower so either increase the pay or abandon the race.

depends what role was convey to him when they pay him 60rmb for whole day. if it is clear he need to take extinguisher and put out the flames, then he need to risk his life. but i wont ask my son to do that job in the first place.
 

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I wouldn't risk my life for just 60 RMB.
But then again, I shouldn't have signed up for the job if I wasn't ready to take the risk.
 

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depends what role was convey to him when they pay him 60rmb for whole day. if it is clear he need to take extinguisher and put out the flames, then he need to risk his life. but i wont ask my son to do that job in the first place.
My guess is lack of training and didn't clearly define roles, establish SOPs.

I've seen a few races where the officials ran towards the fire but fumble around with the fire extinguisher like they don't know how to use it.
 

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My guess is lack of training and didn't clearly define roles, establish SOPs.

I've seen a few races where the officials ran towards the fire but fumble around with the fire extinguisher like they don't know how to use it.
probably the organiser should engage professional to standby. not part timers.
 

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that why the outsourced safety crew also stand one side de :frown: :o 🍦
When you say the safety crew, I think they were each given a safety crew shirt and that's about it.

Even our Formula one volunteer track officials have to go through a theory and practical fire training, how to use a fire extinguisher, from which direction to approach a vehicle on fire.

A lot of people don't realise race cars use race fuel and when it burns, the flames can be invisible.

Btw Singapore F1 volunteer track officials aren't paid. Hence why they are called volunteer track officials.

I'm not saying the people in China shouldn't be paid. Whether it's voluntary or paid, you should know what you are getting yourself into and you're expected to do your job because everyone's lives are at risk.
 

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probably the organiser should engage professional to standby. not part timers.

You can hire part timers. Our Singapore F1 volunteer track officials all have their day job. They volunteer once a year.

The difference is our F1 volunteers have to undergo training. In theory you can be taught how to use a fire extinguisher but in real life when you feel the radiant heat burning your skin, any normal person will give it a second thought about running towards the fire.

That's why the volunteers have to go through proper fire fighting courses and put out an actual fire so that they know what it is like when facing the actual thing.
 

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When you say the safety crew, I think they were each given a safety crew shirt and that's about it.

Even our Formula one volunteer track officials have to go through a theory and practical fire training, how to use a fire extinguisher, from which direction to approach a vehicle on fire.

A lot of people don't realise race cars use race fuel and when it burns, the flames can be invisible.

Btw Singapore F1 volunteer track officials aren't paid. Hence why they are called volunteer track officials.

I'm not saying the people in China shouldn't be paid. Whether it's voluntary or paid, you should know what you are getting yourself into and you're expected to do your job because everyone's lives are at risk.
Main con take cut and outsourced. Then the outsourced company take another cut and outsourced again :frown: :o
 

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I think for events that requires higher expectations on safety, it is best to have them held in more suitable places

but for the racers and other competitive sports, they might not have a choice if that is where major events is held
 

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Inside those tweets still got tiong commenting that the rescuers pitiful efforts is fake news. :s13: ppl trying to tarnish the great 5000yr name. :s22:

Kaozz... Bloody alpaca.
i think that's a sarcastic remark deliberately written by the cn netizens. they trolling be pretending to be a wumao
 
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