[CONSOLIDATED] Israel & Palestine Hamas conflict updates [History Discussion and stirring against any religion NOT ALLOWED]

[Ethan_]

别人家的事，关美国的屁事

They are the one that brokered the deal, no? If so, need to ensure its see it through to the end bah.

 

[SkyShroud]

To secure peace, you need to send troops. Kowtow to all the countries willing to send their troops to die there.

 

[Go Fly Kite]

What's that saying?

The hokkien term Grasshopper taunting the chicken husband?

 

[tarui04]

Where are all those who denied hamas having any hostages? Then hamas release what? Gas?

 

[LWZ]

just glad that all the senseless killing has paused.

 

[Mila Azul]

Hamas fighting in streets with rival militias after Israel withdraws​

Jotam Confino
Mon, 13 October 2025 at 3:32 am SGT
2 min read

Masked police stop motorists at intersections in Gaza as they patrol the area following the ceasefire - Anadolu
Hamas has engaged in intense gunfights against a rival clan in Gaza City, according to local media.
Footage of masked gunmen shooting in alleyways in the Sabra neighbourhood of Gaza City circulated on Sunday, with some suggesting that Hamas was cracking down on the Dormush clan, a widely known family in Gaza.
A Gazan, speaking to The Telegraph on condition of anonymity due to safety concerns, said armed Hamas forces apparently launched an attack on the Jordanian Hospital in southern Gaza City.


The source said: “The hospital had been used as a refuge by the Dormush family after their homes were destroyed by the Israeli army.
“Hamas reportedly demanded that the family vacate the hospital, but they refused, leading to an exchange of gunfire that resulted in several Hamas casualties, including the son of commander Imad Aqel.”

The damaged Jordanian hospital after an alleged attack by Hamas forces - JACK GUEZ
They added that Hamas was carrying out “field executions of several Dormush family members both civilians and fighters.”
The Telegraph has been unable to verify the claims, which were also made by other Gazans on social media.
Meanwhile, a Hamas-linked Telegram account announced that Salah al-Jaafari, a Gazan influencer, was killed by the militia in Gaza City.


Hamas has reportedly cracked down on both “collaborators” and rival militias following the ceasefire with Israel, in an attempt to assert its power in the territory.
Khaled Abu Toameh, a Palestinian analyst, reported that Hamas’s interior ministry said it “opened the door to repentance and amnesty for gang members not involved in bloodshed and killing. They have until October 19 to settle their security and legal status.”

Salah al-Jaafari, a famous Gazan influencer, was reportedly killed by a militia in Gaza City
In the past couple of days, Hamas members have been filmed shooting a Palestinian man in the leg and beating another with clubs.
Last month, the terror group executed three “collaborators” in public.


Armed members have been seen roaming the streets of Gaza City since the ceasefire announcement.

Members of Hamas security forces have been called on to reassert control over the territory - Anadolu
Some 7,000 members of Hamas security forces have been called on to reassert control over the territory and to “cleanse Gaza of outlaws and collaborators with Israel”, according to the BBC.


The Hamas-run Gaza Government Media Office called these claims “baseless”.

Despite Hamas being weakened over the course of the war, the Israel Defense Forces told The Telegraph a new generation of fighters was putting up strong resistance in Gaza City before the ceasefire deal.

Despite this, the depleted group has been forced to accept a peace deal by its international backers, regional diplomats say.

 

[dezzo69]

In the end Hamas still exists?

hamas is totally entrenched into their civilian population.

i am not totally sure how this faction/secular conflict is happening right now in gaza. all i can say is beware of the propaganda now. the narrative is changing to something else.

its basically a civil war right now in gaza as the remains of hamas and the new group backed by US is fighting it out.

the 200k civilians that left gaza before the war must be kicking themselves now. they shd have stayed in egypt.

 

[green72]

FYI. Hamas consist of 2 entity.

The Hamas Political Party wing that won the last election in Gaza strip. Founded and Funded by Netanyahu government to win the election.

And the Hamas Military wing, that infamous for their resistance against Israeli annexation, made news on Oct 7.

The West bank is controlled by the Fatah-based Palestinian Authority. PA lost to Hamas in the Gaza strip in the 2007 elections.

Israel, the West and many parts of the world deemed Hamas as 1 terrorists entity. The muslim world regard them as a resistance entity to free their land since 1948.

No one is coming to their aid and they are just resisting to free their land and not conquer the world.

Israel media propaganda is well-oiled until the invention of social media and live streaming in the past few years.

Some say IDF bomb the whole area to clear Hamas but they have always been very sneaky in their ways to rid the poulation to land grab.

Commenters here need to analyse deeper to understand. Reading just news headlines by the west is dangerous as many of them somehow are influenced by Israel. Just go read what AIPAC is all about as an example.
Many Isrealis are not even originated from the middle east.

Many outspoken ones are from East Europe. Their narrative that they are the chosen ones can be easily challenged.

I support any who are oppresed and intentionally starved to death.

It's a human instinct.

 

[green72]

To secure peace, you need to send troops. Kowtow to all the countries willing to send their troops to die there.

Deport all Israelis and their families that wasn't born in and after 1948 to their original country and retreat to the original boundary lines set by the British. Then there will be peace.

The Palestinian Jews, Christian, Muslims and others did not invade anyone during and after world war 2.

They just want to live in peace like before the zionist european came and create this chaos and lies. They used religion and race as their main narrative. Many until this day fall for their ruse but some in the west are thankfully are realising that they are being fooled.

 

[matrix05]

Hostages released and war is over. Is it safe to spell Gaz and Pal in full?

 

[Not.banned.yet]

Context: when asked if we will have an eminent member on the board of peace in gaza.

I think he forgot one more step: Monitor first

 

[SkyShroud]

Deport all Israelis and their families that wasn't born in and after 1948 to their original country and retreat to the original boundary lines set by the British. Then there will be peace.

The Palestinian Jews, Christian, Muslims and others did not invade anyone during and after world war 2.

They just want to live in peace like before the zionist european came and create this chaos and lies. They used religion and race as their main narrative. Many until this day fall for their ruse but some in the west are thankfully are realising that they are being fooled.

So you anti two state solution, so you want war. Okay.

 

[green72]

So you anti two state solution, so you want war. Okay.

How can my intent for peace be construed by the likes of you as wanting war?

Very aggressive and agitated in your reply. Kind of naughty to manipulate things. Anyway a two state solution is a compromise by all.

See how the zionist propaganda works? They are no goodie two-shoes.

I will only mention this issue as a Zionist issue. It's was never about race or religion.

Israel just need to leave the occupied lands and there will be peace. Palestinian don't want war, just return stolen lands and things should be ok.

But you will rather believe the Zionist narrative. I can't be too surprised.

Anyway, since the resistance started, one of the world's strongest military still cannot annihilate them without the need to level almost everything.

By all means if it lead to eternal peace and perpetrators be tried in ICJ. Hamas militants and especially Netanyahu and his generals must be held accountable.

If the likes of Japan and Germany have to return back those invaded lands, so should Israel.

Still a two-state solution albeit back to 1948 lines.

Anyway there are many hypocrites here who agree Ukraine should get back their territories or China should not claim the whole of SCS but not the Palestinians return to their lands.

 

[trento]

How can my intent for peace be construed by the likes of you as wanting war?

Very aggressive and agitated in your reply. Kind of naughty to manipulate things. Anyway a two state solution is a compromise by all.

See how the zionist propaganda works? They are no goodie two-shoes.

I will only mention this issue as a Zionist issue. It's was never about race or religion.

Israel just need to leave the occupied lands and there will be peace. Palestinian don't want war, just return stolen lands and things should be ok.

But you will rather believe the Zionist narrative. I can't be too surprised.

Anyway, since the resistance started, one of the world's strongest military still cannot annihilate them without the need to level almost everything.

By all means if it lead to eternal peace and perpetrators be tried in ICJ. Hamas militants and especially Netanyahu and his generals must be held accountable.

If the likes of Japan and Germany have to return back those invaded lands, so should Israel.

Still a two-state solution albeit back to 1948 lines.

Anyway there are many hypocrites here who agree Ukraine should get back their territories or China should not claim the whole of SCS but not the Palestinians return to their lands.

Nothing anyone can do. At some point gotta move on. Not like usa not sitting on stolen land also. But no one can do anything. However if want to fight till the last man, then all the best

 

[green72]

Nothing anyone can do. At some point gotta move on. Not like usa not sitting on stolen land also. But no one can do anything. However if want to fight till the last man, then all the best

Sadly, if anyone notice, all these peace deals, peace solutions and what not, did anyone ever ask what the Palestinians want?

Kind of ridiculous everyone else including the occupiers involved in the discussions but exclude the occupied, the starved, the bombed ones.

So far whenever the elected representatives are involved in recent peace negotiations, IDF will take them out even on foreign territory.

The Arab rulers are too drunk in worldly things, this they have to answer in the hereafter. Can't be bothered about them.

 

[SkyShroud]

How can my intent for peace be construed by the likes of you as wanting war?

Very aggressive and agitated in your reply. Kind of naughty to manipulate things. Anyway a two state solution is a compromise by all.

See how the zionist propaganda works? They are no goodie two-shoes.

I will only mention this issue as a Zionist issue. It's was never about race or religion.

Israel just need to leave the occupied lands and there will be peace. Palestinian don't want war, just return stolen lands and things should be ok.

But you will rather believe the Zionist narrative. I can't be too surprised.

Anyway, since the resistance started, one of the world's strongest military still cannot annihilate them without the need to level almost everything.

By all means if it lead to eternal peace and perpetrators be tried in ICJ. Hamas militants and especially Netanyahu and his generals must be held accountable.

If the likes of Japan and Germany have to return back those invaded lands, so should Israel.

Still a two-state solution albeit back to 1948 lines.

Anyway there are many hypocrites here who agree Ukraine should get back their territories or China should not claim the whole of SCS but not the Palestinians return to their lands.

1. You the one that said all immigrants in Israel should be deported, this of course include the Jews were exiled from Arab countries, this of course exclude immigrants of Palestine who joined Palestine Mandate during British rule.
2. You also the one that imply that they are all at peace without all the immigrants which by itself imply there is no need for two state solution.
3. You the one that backpedal the moment you are exposed of your intent for one state solution, quickly pretend your intent is two state.

Regardless, your suggestion will only happen through a violent enforcement which lead to nothing but war, that is to say you want war. We are not idiots, keep your extremism beliefs to yourself.

 

[trento]

Sadly, if anyone notice, all these peace deals, peace solutions and what not, did anyone ever ask what the Palestinians want?

Kind of ridiculous everyone else including the occupiers involved in the discussions but exclude the occupied, the starved, the bombed ones.

So far whenever the elected representatives are involved in recent peace negotiations, IDF will take them out even on foreign territory.

The Arab rulers are too drunk in worldly things, this they have to answer in the hereafter. Can't be bothered about them.

tat time election they wanted hamas. but such is the world, might is right. eod, if u cannot win, then join in. throughout human history, not the first time natives land have been taken over. life goes on or fight forever.

 

[green72]

Trump: Israel will resume fighting in Gaza ‘as soon as I say the word'​

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Why would anyone be surprised by the actions of these 2 buddies? Always find excuses to not stop. Lol!

 

[shikoo]

 

[larking8]

aiya... peace deal? is Trump acting becos he wanted the nobel prize.. now over liao he bo chap.. that one is not peace deal, is hostage swap deal..

Now without living hostage liao, Israel nothing to fear liao.. all out elimination of Hamas and Trump says none of my business liao