[CONSOLIDATED] 柯文哲 Ko P Discussion Thread

[menthol28]

KMT has much more to lose....which is why KP bo hiew them for many months till he signed the agreement last week at a moment of weakness....

but now he is back to his bo hiew attitude...and go on the offense with terry gou...terry aide already confirmed their willingness to work with KP...just waiting for KP signal of approval...which will come in the next few days...

KP already has a backup in Terry...so KMT has to offer a better option for him...and the only better option they can offer him is Ke Hou pei...

there is a reason KP every 2 nights visit Terry for the last 2 weeks....meaning they are already very close to an agreement and obviously like each other...and are finalising the final details....but KP only free at night...if there is no agreement with Terry in the works...no need to visit him late at night every 2 days...it is quite rude to show up at someone place late at night in Taiwan...

End of the day is not Ke P boh hiew, no one in the right mind will accept how KMT is playing the game in a sly and scheming manner. Also the fact is that in politics it's ever changing situation, Ke Never in his wildest dreams would think that he is 10-15% closest to DPP Lai and Hou is such a weak candidate that even KMT supporters also jump ship to Ke.
In order for an alliance, both parties must be willing and also both must benefit. The way KMT is doing things, it's hard to persuade Ke to just willingly summit to them because of KMT 大我小我。。。。 and Ke is leading in polls compared to Hou. Zhu and Hou everyday keep mentioning they are the 小我 sacrificing for taiwanese but really meh? They bao jiak in all the game and rules with Ke, looks like the 小我 is more meant for Ke to aide Zhu and Hou and KMT win

 

[menthol28]

A presidential candidate is contesting to be the leader of a country. He cannot be the one being pushed around and behaving like a puppet.

Worse still, this merger isn't even proposed nor led by him.

Very bad impression. Not a leader for sure. People will wonder if taiwan ever encounter issues during his presidency, will he go running back to Zhu and Ma and beg for advice?

Hou was never a leader nor president material, he is too muted and everything also need Zhu, Han, Ma... After almost a year of following the president elect drama, I can most certainly say he is Zhu's puppet. Now I can understand why Terry Guo feel so aggrieved when Hou was selected instead of him... It's a game that Zhu alrdy predetermined Hou to win no matter what

 

[808180579]

Sure.

But you sure KeP supporters will vote for him and KMT if the scenario you described happens?

best case scenario KMT and TPP no merger, then branded as 6% party and Keep Pretend party. William and Bee Kim laughing all the way

 

[lifezard]

How did Tsai 61% drop to William 35%?

26% are center and young gen voters?

61% was manipulating sentiments and stoking anti-ccp fears then in the midst of the 2019 HK riots. you have to say XJP played a huge role in cheerleading veggie all the way to victory that year.

 

[TUV2008]

Why KP must wait until tomorrow morning then respond to the recount request from KMT?

Because he needs to go back to consult his lao bo

 

[menthol28]

Why KP must wait until tomorrow morning then respond to the recount request from KMT?

Because he needs to go back to consult his lao bo

Most likely use this news to see whether Terry Guo will change his mind and support Ke P

 

[TUV2008]

Most likely use this news to see whether Terry Guo will change his mind and support Ke P

Confirm tonight he will go Guo house again to la Kopi

 

[tth1311]

if KMT can win convincingly dont think KMT will keep pestering KeP to reconsider the merger since KMT is old and a big party

 

[hardindex]

if KMT can win convincingly dont think KMT will keep pestering KeP to reconsider the merger since KMT is old and a big party

their chance to win is slim if 3 way or 4 way run, they die die try get what they want till last minute. Ke can stay stubborn, at least be the person for them to blame

 

[testart]

I think green camp and Terry guo are not giving due respect to a party chairman who deserves respect.

His party maybe small but is still a chairman and was a hospital professor.

I see KMT still addressing him as Chairman as Professor even after so much drama.

Whereas Terry camp don't give him respect because they thought he looking for sponsors.

Green camp don't even see him as party chairman.

 

[OrLengJuz]

MZT

61% was manipulating sentiments and stoking anti-ccp fears then in the midst of the 2019 HK riots. you have to say XJP played a huge role in cheerleading veggie all the way to victory that year.

The weak KTM of 草包Korean fish, kaosiung huat big big... Plays a part. Can only attract zombie deep blue votes.
And MZT did not contest previously.

 

[OrLengJuz]

Why KP must wait until tomorrow morning then respond to the recount request from KMT?

Because he needs to go back to consult his lao bo

And consult his mom too.
He U turned mainly because of the resounding backlash from his own supporters.
Ke P is just like a prostitute now, open his legs to KMT or Terry Gou for their money/resources.
His party has lost any creditability by shifting his middle ground stances between KMT and DDP.

 

[iMac]

Blue and White haven't election already shows so many problems. Can't imagine if elected KeP will everyday cry here cry there.

Better vote for Green.

 

[OrLengJuz]

Blue and White haven't election already shows so many problems. Can't imagine if elected KeP will everyday cry here cry there.

Better vote for Green.

Just like Singaporean.. vote for stability

 

[Medicated Oil]

Blue and White haven't election already shows so many problems. Can't imagine if elected KeP will everyday cry here cry there.

Better vote for Green.

The green side just proceed with what they planned.
Dun think they have any worries about any blue white combo.
Ke P is too sly and may end up with nothing in the end.

 

[THFC78]

東森 uses ah gong quote to fix 柯P

 

[iMac]

Just like Singaporean.. vote for stability

Wrong, vote Green so China/Taiwan war start early...If no war, nobody buy weapon from US. My Boeing stock will suffer.

 

[chongquan82]

No matter who wins still USA's dog

What sovereignty taiwanese always talk about

Laugh moi die

 

[menthol28]

Best possible ideal scenario by tmw is KMT Hou bow out gracefully and accept that without handicap by Ke, he will lose, willingly accept VP role. Zhu if sacrifice Hou as president role, KMT will still hold the majority of power due to their 69 legislative council members. If KMT and Zhu look on the brighter side, KMT hold the majority power, key ministers will belong to KMT and they can groom younger generation of 议员 and立委 for future foothold, Hou won't lose face as VP and dun need to be mayor. Zhu still can weld power behind the scene as KMT president. If 2024 DPP still ruling government, Zhu and Hou will be blamed. Ke will also be balmed but it's his own party after all

 

[Lemon_gaga]

If KMT ask Han to take over, Ke P will join as VP. Hou too weak. KMT Management die die want Hou to contest.