[CONSOLIDATED] 柯文哲 Ko P Discussion Thread

4_dreamz

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MYJ is gong jiao wei lah… this is how politic works he dun know meh? He is not new to politics should know if you are ruling party you set the game rule

MYJ once said winning elections ish about who make the least mistakes so he ish actually helping Lai here :(
 

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it's really strange why it seems like majority of taiwanese think that won't happen and they are not really concerned.

Or they think as Taiwanese, even if that happens, they can and should put up a good fight.

But that equates to immense loss of lives and wealth. Tens of thousands could perish in such a scenario. Being such a small island with no hinterland, all foreign funds and businesses will be withdrawn. Taiwan will be set back 30 years.

Their residents don't seem to be scared of that scenario?

Why? Cos naive? Got too much confidence in themselves and their US, EU "friends"?
Because I did rather die a Taiwanese than become a Tiong, if they will invade they will invade.

As long as keep the status quo and not call for independence outright, CCP will keep using Taiwan as their negotiation tool with the West. If they invade then they have no more tool to negotiate what they need.

So CCP needs to maintain the threat but not really invade, Taiwan just needs to stop short of calling a full independence.

And Taiwanese lead a generally better living condition than most of Tiongs, so what's there to be afraid of, at least can put food on table for now.
 

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Because I did rather die a Taiwanese than become a Tiong, if they will invade they will invade.

As long as keep the status quo and not call for independence outright, CCP will keep using Taiwan as their negotiation tool with the West. If they invade then they have no more tool to negotiate what they need.

So CCP needs to maintain the threat but not really invade, Taiwan just needs to stop short of calling a full independence.

And Taiwanese lead a generally better living condition than most of Tiongs, so what's there to be afraid of, at least can put food on table for now.

moi wonder are chiu the only eligible voter in this thread? :(
 

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I don't think so, probably there's more Taiwanese, but maybe mostly based overseas like I am, because the domestic ones cannot understand English forums lol.
But before others say oh because I'm not living in Taiwan so it's easier for me to say that, which is definitely a factor but all my relatives also the same thinking.

If really kena hoot, at least unlike Tiongs, we don't kena hoot by our own government, but a foreign invader. At least we don't need to worry over our own government. Can't say the same for the Chinese citizens cannot afford to do anything wrong later kena from their own boss.
 

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So y is kp regarded by siao lang by some ppl he done some good work in taipei

His deterrence and communications using diplomacy make sense.. hes not selling tw out and from cop28 tiong is just bullying tw dun let ppl enter
 

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Because I did rather die a Taiwanese than become a Tiong, if they will invade they will invade.

As long as keep the status quo and not call for independence outright, CCP will keep using Taiwan as their negotiation tool with the West. If they invade then they have no more tool to negotiate what they need.

So CCP needs to maintain the threat but not really invade, Taiwan just needs to stop short of calling a full independence.

And Taiwanese lead a generally better living condition than most of Tiongs, so what's there to be afraid of, at least can put food on table for now.
U Taiwanese?


Actually u sure is china n not the other way round
Usa using tw liked it’s using ukraine to keep on poking what Shld have been status quo
If usa really cares abt tw then their politicians will not use tw for their own political benefits
 

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U Taiwanese?


Actually u sure is china n not the other way round
Usa using tw liked it’s using ukraine to keep on poking what Shld have been status quo
If usa really cares abt tw then their politicians will not use tw for their own political benefits
China can easily entice Taiwan citizens to support a closer relationship with China instead but they chose to bully them constantly.

Why everything is US' fault? Russia invade Ukraine also US fault, when Russia chose to invade. US didn't support or ask Ukraine to invade into any parts of Russia, it was Russia invading into Ukraine's land.

China now antagonising all the neighbours in SCS, but also US fault?

Taiwan is forced to be USA's lapdog because it's scarier to be controlled by China, so blame US or blame China that even Chinese don't wanna side with Chinese. Don't blame China's problems to US, when they could have used other ways to try and resolve differences.

If China was the world #1, they would be doing the same thing as what US is doing to maintain #1 position.

USA is far from innocent, but don't blame every other countries' fk up as US' fault.
 

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China 9 dash line ish just pissing everyone off incl jp, kr, ph, tw which are all us allies

Unless winnie xi step down and change position, nth will change.. he ownself destroyed hk the global fin hub and tw ppl will not want to end up like hk and destroy global semicon hub
 

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China 9 dash line ish just pissing everyone off incl jp, kr, ph, tw which are all us allies

Unless winnie xi step down and change position, nth will change.. he ownself destroyed hk the global fin hub and tw ppl will not want to end up like hk and destroy global semicon hub
Apparently is US fault, not CCP's. CCP is trying to protect Asia from evil USA.
 

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台灣人喜歡講這句: 都是阿共的錯!
If not it's Philippines fault for defending their territories?

They should just let them take all.

Your neighbour put their shoe rack infront of your door step taking up your corridor space but you blame it at your neighbour living 2 stories above you all?
 

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When ish lai gpgt of his donation of the house? When? 又被打脸,光说不做

i am sure Lai will do it if he already made such public statement.

The only thing I don't understand is what is the logic to challenge Hou and KP to sell their property? both of them bought the property themselves and they are legitmate owner which they have declared, why need to ask them to donate?
 

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China can easily entice Taiwan citizens to support a closer relationship with China instead but they chose to bully them constantly.

Why everything is US' fault? Russia invade Ukraine also US fault, when Russia chose to invade. US didn't support or ask Ukraine to invade into any parts of Russia, it was Russia invading into Ukraine's land.

China now antagonising all the neighbours in SCS, but also US fault?

Taiwan is forced to be USA's lapdog because it's scarier to be controlled by China, so blame US or blame China that even Chinese don't wanna side with Chinese. Don't blame China's problems to US, when they could have used other ways to try and resolve differences.

If China was the world #1, they would be doing the same thing as what US is doing to maintain #1 position.

USA is far from innocent, but don't blame every other countries' fk up as US' fault.
it is mistake for taiwanese to invest in china so much so that it helped the country growing into what it is today in the expense of its own growth.
it’s crystal clear china under ccp is the most ungrateful country in the world.
 

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it is mistake for taiwanese to invest in china so much so that it helped the country growing into what it is today in the expense of its own growth.
it’s crystal clear china under ccp is the most ungrateful country in the world.
Bo bian, but also China helped quite a few Taiwanese tycoon to make a lot of money as well, to base their operations in China, eg Foxconn.

If CCP wasn't so harsh and aggressive, it could have made Taiwan and China closer, if they were more friendly and over time may make Taiwanese more ok with China.

The anti-CCP is caused by CCP themselves, not USA. But then CCP supporters keep thinking is USA's fault.
 

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Wat kp say is right, tw unfortunate position in the middle made itself a chess piece by both parties, but the goal is actually change 棋子 to 桥梁

Any form of conflict is bad for tw, fdi will not come in due to risk of war, even if eu signs the agreement..
i am sure Lai will do it if he already made such public statement.

The only thing I don't understand is what is the logic to challenge Hou and KP to sell their property? both of them bought the property themselves and they are legitmate owner which they have declared, why need to ask them to donate?
Lai cannot do it bcos no trust will accept illegal building

KP land also flout law cos used as carpark when its fertile farmland.. so he revert back already give alot of face
but KP's father bought it that way and i think he didnt check and left it as that

Hou i ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ i duno nv read about his hostel lols
 
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