[CONSOLIDATED] President Trump 2nd term

who will win the US Presidential Elections 2024?

  • Donald J Trump

  • Kamala Harris


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I think that the way many right-wingers online are ramping up the mudslinging on Harris means that there is a genuine competition between Harris and Trump now. Just have to say all this mudslinging is kind of like a circle jerk for the right-wingers and Republicans but it might actually put off the swing voters.
 

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I think that the way many right-wingers online are ramping up the mudslinging on Harris means that there is a genuine competition between Harris and Trump now. Just have to say all this mudslinging is kind of like a circle jerk for the right-wingers and Republicans but it might actually put off the swing voters.
most of the mud is actually true about her.
So, i am not sure if it is really mudslinging.
 

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most of the mud is actually true about her.
So, i am not sure if it is really mudslinging.
I don’t take anything at face value reported in the media, right or left.

If the Republican want to mudsling, the Democrat like wise also has a lot of ammo to mudsling at JDT with the difference that the left has the full machinery of mainstream media at the their disposal. You see how mudslinging has worked so well for PAP in the past, I hope Dems would rise above this tactic.

I see Trump after the assassination attempt he became kinder and calmer because he was practically guaranteed a win. Now with Kamala in the picture he is back to his usual angry and combative self.
 

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I don’t take anything at face value reported in the media, right or left.

If the Republican want to mudsling, the Democrat like wise also has a lot of ammo to mudsling at JDT with the difference that the left has the full machinery of mainstream media at the their disposal. You see how mudslinging has worked so well for PAP in the past, I hope Dems would rise above this tactic.

I see Trump after the assassination attempt he became kinder and calmer because he was practically guaranteed a win. Now with Kamala in the picture he is back to his usual angry and combative self.
maybe you can tell me what is the mudslinging at kamala that you have read that is 'mudslinging'.
Where I will define 'mudslinging' as saying something bad about kamala that is untrue.

i.e. if it is true but is bad or not good for her, i will not consider it as mudslinging since it is true.
 

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This is the kind of person who so disregard the law and order when she was the California AG. Instead of being held accountable, she was promoted to be Senator, then VP and now Presidential nominee.
Senator (thanks to sleeping with willie brown).

VP (thanks to biden who committed to a DEI hire for VP in 2020).

Unelected Democrat Presidential nominee (thanks to Donald Trump for crushing Biden in a 90 min debate where Trump actually did not go very hard on Biden after seeing how unwell he was).

If anything, kamala is a lucky girl.

But, her luck will run out.
And, luck is not enough to bank on to become POTUS. You still need that 270 electoral votes.
Trump's pathway to 270 is clear.
Kamala's/Dem's (be honest, she is just a DEI hire and figurehead) pathway to 270 is not particularly clear to me.
 

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Kamala used to be a proud Indian..... until now...

haha i remember that. Things get so lost in the amount of information that comes out daily.
She outright said she is an Indian (India Indian to be clear). Whoever recorded that clip is gold!

But, now she is trying to pass herself off as a black American because now she just wants the black vote. What a load of BS. Not to be trusted!
 

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haha i remember that. Things get so lost in the amount of information that comes out daily.
She outright said she is an Indian (India Indian to be clear). Whoever recorded that clip is gold!

But, now she is trying to pass herself off as a black American because now she just wants the black vote. What a load of BS. Not to be trusted!
She said clearly her family is one half Indian. She never said she was exclusively Indian and not black. Big difference. You can be black and Indian at the same time you know.
 

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maybe you can tell me what is the mudslinging at kamala that you have read that is 'mudslinging'.
Where I will define 'mudslinging' as saying something bad about kamala that is untrue.

i.e. if it is true but is bad or not good for her, i will not consider it as mudslinging since it is true.
Well, after the fiasco of the deepfake video posted by Elon Musk last week, I think we can agree that people just wanted to believe what they think is true.

I am under no illusion that the left wing mainstream media like CNN and MSNBC are biased as hell towards Trump, but the right wing media with its ‘tiagong’ reporting is no better.
 

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Personally I think that race and religion should not come into politics and I don’t agree with Kamala playing she’s the first black president card.

Same also with Trump’s openly asking Christians to vote for him.
 

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Well, after the fiasco of the deepfake video posted by Elon Musk last week, I think we can agree that people just wanted to believe what they think is true.

I am under no illusion that the left wing mainstream media like CNN and MSNBC are biased as hell towards Trump, but the right wing media with its ‘tiagong’ reporting is no better.
I am aware of the video.
It is a video made with AI but the content was actually true. Eg. she being a diversity hire, she saying America is allied with North Korea etc.
So, that is not mudslinging per se.
The content should be untrue for it to be mudslinging IMHO.
 

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Personally I think that race and religion should not come into politics and I don’t agree with Kamala playing she’s the first black president card.

Same also with Trump’s openly asking Christians to vote for him.
1. Kamala is not black. She is India Indian and we have the receipts of her saying so directly. You are right not to agree with it and that is because it is a blatant lie.

2. Holding political rallies and asking people to vote for you whether it is christians or buddhists or whites or blacks or hispanics or asians or whatever is part and parcel of the electoral process. There is nothing wrong with that. That's what politicians do. Kamala is free to ask for their vote too except i dont think she will get it.
 
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I am aware of the video.
It is a video made with AI but the content was actually true. Eg. she being a diversity hire, she saying America is allied with North Korea etc.
So, that is not mudslinging per se.
The content should be untrue for it to be mudslinging IMHO.
True according to who? Right wingers? If the left wingers don’t think it’s true then it’s just an echo chamber.

In any case since you already made up your mind about Kamala like all the right wingers in US then well that is your right.
 

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True according to who? Right wingers? If the left wingers don’t think it’s true then it’s just an echo chamber.

In any case since you already made up your mind about Kamala like all the right wingers in US then well that is your right.

If there are untrue things that were said, I think we should not be doing that - because it is a lie.
So, which part of the video said untrue things about kamala?
The reason why the video became viral is because everything in it was actually true and so, as a parody, its funny as hell.
 

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Gotta laugh at MAGA supporters here who can't aceept the fact their cult leader is a coward running away from a woman. :s13:
https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jul/31/trump-nabj-black-journalists-chicago

NABJ president Ken Lemon defended the decision as part of a tradition of questioning national party leaders – from presidents Bill Clinton and George W Bush, to nominees Barack Obama and Bob Dole. What’s more, Lemon said, they had invited Harris, but her campaign would only commit to a video interview. Trump, however, was happy to attend in person. How could he pass up an opportunity for face time with “the Blacks”?
 
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