[CONSOLIDATED][Russia Edition] General discussion on Ukraine/Russia war

[georgemcics]

[UNVERIFED/MIGHT BE PHOTOSHOP]

yet another "Social Media killing the Ukrainian moment"

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[satayxp]

the idea is actually good. let everyone decide if they want to give in to the term
I just don't know how are they going to go about it
unless Russia ceasefire
if not who dare to go to polling station to vote sia

sounds democratic? or a cop out? he got elected as leader he can represent ukraine.. to now say oh need referendum (logistically impossible) is nothing more than a cop out excuse n yet another ruse by this murican puppet rah


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[Overture1928]

My guess is Zelensky will talk terms after Mariupol is leveled. My points:

1) If Zelensky surrenders now, the ultra-nationalist will dispose him and throw him out after the war.

2) Mariupol falling will be a huge blow for the ultra-nationalists. Mariupol has been the source of the Azov Battalion movement and the aggressive elements against Russia or pro-Russian policies.

3) Zelensky surrendering after Mariupol falls gives Zelensky the excuse that even the ultra-nationalists can't hold Mariupol, what armed forces Zelensky possess can hold Kyiv.

4) With major ultra-nationalists influences removed, Zelensky will face less political opposition post-war.

 

[georgemcics]

sounds democratic? or a cop out? he got elected as leader he can represent ukraine.. to now say oh need referendum (logistically impossible) is nothing more than a cop out excuse n yet another ruse by this murican puppet rah


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Anyway i doubt russia will agree to ceasefire for this

Then we will start hearing people screaming Russia not diplomatic liao

Hai......

 

[rtfm38]

zelensky says any peace deal must be put to a referendum by Ukrainians... lololol isnt it super obvious he is trying to delay any deal n drag out the war? confirm he is just a US puppet ~~


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Yup the longer the west can drag, the more Russian economy gg. So come out with demands like want to meet pudding face to face to discuss peace deal or its ww3.

 

[BioProEng]

due to the censorship

most Russia news can only be from russia website/telegram/imageboard/forum

and it can be a pain in the butt to find it

because most of their source is in their language.

so many translation needed. sibei mafan

Yeah. This why I am not searching for info, unlike during hk riot..... And plus my work very busy recently. Only ssrr during my kopi break.

 

[tankgunner]

can't wait for them to do a Normandy landing on Odessa.

 

[georgemcics]

Yeah. This why I am not searching for info, unlike during hk riot..... And plus my work very busy recently. Only ssrr during my kopi break.

The russian also give up liao due to the mass censorship from the west

Now they only post in their own language

Mean for their own people to read

 

[BioProEng]

The russian also give up liao due to the mass censorship from the west

Now they only post in their own language

Mean for their own people to read

Think western side learned from hk riot, that's why they fast hand fast leg ban alternative news on media and as much as possible on social platform etc....

 

[matrix05]

Yup the longer the west can drag, the more Russian economy gg. So come out with demands like want to meet pudding face to face to discuss peace deal or its ww3.

Agree, still in the early days, with many more months to come. Putin is trapped in UA; UA going to give him some land to stay in the east and South borders and slowly exhaust Putin; while UA has unlimited weapon and resources.

 

[georgemcics]

can't wait for them to do a Normandy landing on Odessa.

Attack mariupol is kind of like want finish the Azov

Attack Kiev is mainly due to it being the capital

But the most important city is actually Odessa

Once capture Odessa they block Ukraine out from the sea liao

Then they can play the long game with Ukraine liao

 

[tankgunner]

Attack mariupol is kind of like want finish the Azov

Attack Kiev is mainly due to it being the capital

But the most important city is actually Odessa

Once capture Odessa they block Ukraine out from the sea liao

Then they can play the long game with Ukraine liao

 

[georgemcics]

My guess is Zelensky will talk terms after Mariupol is leveled. My points:

1) If Zelensky surrenders now, the ultra-nationalist will dispose him and throw him out after the war.

2) Mariupol falling will be a huge blow for the ultra-nationalists. Mariupol has been the source of the Azov Battalion movement and the aggressive elements against Russia or pro-Russian policies.

3) Zelensky surrendering after Mariupol falls gives Zelensky the excuse that even the ultra-nationalists can't hold Mariupol, what armed forces Zelensky possess can hold Kyiv.

4) With major ultra-nationalists influences removed, Zelensky will face less political opposition post-war.

Yep

Russia demand Zelensky to surrender mariupol

Actually the situation Ukraine in

Mariupol is as good as gone

But he openly say no surrender

And say things like mariupol will fight until the last man

I believe he low key give up on mariupol and hope every neo nazi inside is gone

 

[Cokacola]

hearsay Ukraine asking civilians to use molotov cocktails ....

imagine russia the origin of voka and spirits do the same, lol

 

[georgemcics]

hearsay Ukraine asking civilians to use molotov cocktails ....

imagine russia the origin of voka and spirits do the same, lol

The molotov cocktail really is 害死人

The Ukraine govt go say nonsense like this

What happen in the end

The Russian soldiers become very sensitive

They scare the civilian will attack them with Molotov cocktail

The sensitivity plus tension

What happen in the end?

The Russian soldiers fire at civilian

Just think. If you is the soldier. A Ukraine car drive towards you. Window wind down. You won't worry they will throw a MC out of the car at you?

Then you ask the car to stop. The car didn't stop. You won't scare? Wont shoot?

If shoot liao. Find out car inside got no MC. How. War crime or no war crime?

One stupid suggestion from the Ukraine govt is going to cause how many civilian bo dai bo ji kana shot at

Really... 害死人

 

[amognoix]

FICA!!!! FICA!!!!

 

[Visor9999]

In Ukraine, Corruption Is Now Undermining the Military​

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/19/...partner=rss&emc=rss&smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur

This is very accurate. Ukraine only reason can hold until now is because of free weapons and help from west. Unless US and NATO want to keep sending arms weekly to them for months or even years it’s not sustainable in the long run.

 

[Visor9999]

Yep

Russia demand Zelensky to surrender mariupol

Actually the situation Ukraine in

Mariupol is as good as gone

But he openly say no surrender

And say things like mariupol will fight until the last man

I believe he low key give up on mariupol and hope every neo nazi inside is gone

EU will pressure Ukraine eventually when they cannot take the refugee crisis anymore. Europe economy will go under if too many refugees flood their lands

 

[georgemcics]

FICA!!!! FICA!!!!

What FICA

Those that try to ask people go Ukraine to fight the russian

Then really is FICA lo

 

[georgemcics]

This is very accurate. Ukraine only reason can hold until now is because of free weapons and help from west. Unless US and NATO want to keep sending arms weekly to them for months or even years it’s not sustainable in the long run.

It's very weird actually

Base on Ukraine volunteers subreddit

Those volunteers that went. They given very lousy equipment and limited ammunition

Makes people wonder where all the weapon these countries donated went to.....