[CONSOLIDATED][Russia Edition] General discussion on Ukraine/Russia war

[junjie433]

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Zelensky party MP claims top general wants Ukraine to surrender​

The army chief and his predecessor are part of a “mafia”, Mariana Bezuglaya has said

Ukraine’s top commander Aleksandr Syrsky is ready to lay down arms and capitulate to Russia, a lawmaker from Vladimir Zelensky’s party has claimed.

Syrsky was appointed Ukraine’s highest-ranking general in early February, replacing Valery Zaluzhny, who oversaw last year’s failed attempt to push back Russian forces. According to MP Mariana Bezuglaya from Zelensky’s ‘Servant of the People’ party, the two are secretly colluding to prevent a Ukrainian victory.

Bezuglaya, who is also deputy chair of the National Security, Defense and Intelligence Committee, laid out her case for a top-level military conspiracy in a lengthy post on Facebook on Saturday.

She claimed that Syrsky and Zaluzhny both belong to a “generals’ mafia” protecting their privileges from a younger generation of military leaders, whom Bezuglaya believes to be more competent and innovative, and thus capable of defeating Russia.
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https://www.rt.com/russia/601096-syrsky-generals-mafia-bezuglaya/

 

[Kiwi8]

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Zelensky party MP claims top general wants Ukraine to surrender​

The army chief and his predecessor are part of a “mafia”, Mariana Bezuglaya has said

Ukraine’s top commander Aleksandr Syrsky is ready to lay down arms and capitulate to Russia, a lawmaker from Vladimir Zelensky’s party has claimed.

Syrsky was appointed Ukraine’s highest-ranking general in early February, replacing Valery Zaluzhny, who oversaw last year’s failed attempt to push back Russian forces. According to MP Mariana Bezuglaya from Zelensky’s ‘Servant of the People’ party, the two are secretly colluding to prevent a Ukrainian victory.

Bezuglaya, who is also deputy chair of the National Security, Defense and Intelligence Committee, laid out her case for a top-level military conspiracy in a lengthy post on Facebook on Saturday.

She claimed that Syrsky and Zaluzhny both belong to a “generals’ mafia” protecting their privileges from a younger generation of military leaders, whom Bezuglaya believes to be more competent and innovative, and thus capable of defeating Russia.
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https://www.rt.com/russia/601096-syrsky-generals-mafia-bezuglaya/

rt.com from russia.... questionable..

 

[BioProEng]

why like so many ppl from the other thread posting here? or had mods merge the threads?

doubting source from RT about russia is understandable but yet believe everything from ukr source without any doubt is even more amazing....

still no idea how they see ru is "losing" so far ukr claim back all the lost land? no? then in what way is ukr winning?

 

[stanlawj]

Zelensky fast hand fast leg make deal with new incoming President Trump. The Ukraine war is coming to an end!!!


Outcome of this war:

1. Proves US deep state is stupid and unable to achieve their goals
2. Cleanse Ukraine nation from a whole generation of hardcore Neo-Nazi youth men. Most of them died in the Russian meat-grinder.
3. Strengthen the BRICS alliance solidarity and reducing influence of US

 

[V_for_Vanilla]

rt.com from russia.... questionable..

It is good to read widely. I follow RT for the Ukraine conflict. And RT has proven to be accurate. If I follow western news sources l would still be wondering how did Ukraine lose so badly and suddenly.

 

[junjie433]

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Ukraine ready for talks with Russia – FM​

Dmitry Kuleba says negotiations should be “rational” and seek to achieve “lasting peace,” according to the Chinese Foreign Ministry

Kiev is ready to hold peace talks with Moscow to end their long-running conflict, Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmitry Kuleba has told his Chinese counterpart Wang Yi.

Speaking to reporters on Wednesday, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Mao Ning offered a glimpse into the agenda of Kuleba’s visit to China – the first since the start of the Ukraine conflict in February 2022 – as well as his talks with Wang.

According to Mao, the hostilities between Moscow and Kiev were high on the agenda, with Kuleba making it clear that “Ukraine is ready and willing to engage in dialogue and negotiations with Russia.”

“Of course, the negotiations should be rational and substantive, aimed at achieving a just and lasting peace,” he added, as quoted by Mao.
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https://www.rt.com/russia/601575-ukraine-ready-talks-russia/

Wow fast hand fast leg to seek peace once Biden announced he won't seek reelection. At this rate maybe once Trump assume his post as POTUS can settle the peace in 24 hour.

 

[ckt1978]

ukr now gg ch to start peace talks liao.

 

[junjie433]

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Russia should no longer hold back in Ukraine – Medvedev​

The “terrorist operation” in Kursk Region justifies going “to Kiev and further,” the former president believes

Russia should respond to Kiev’s attempted incursion in Kursk Region by taking over land that Moscow currently recognizes as Ukraine, former President Dmitry Medvedev has suggested.

The Ukrainian military initiated a cross-border raid involving some 1,000 troops this week, which has so far claimed five civilian lives and left over 30 others wounded in Russia. The operation has largely been thwarted by the Russian army and border guards, Chief of General Staff Valery Gerasimov reported on Wednesday. He estimated Ukrainian casualties at 315, including 100 killed in action.

“From this moment, the special military operation should become openly exterritorial in nature,” Medvedev, who serves as deputy chair of the Russian Security Council, argued in a post on Thursday.

“We can and should go further into what still exists as Ukraine. To Odessa, Kharkov, Dnepropetrovsk, Nikolaev. To Kiev and further. There should be no restrictions in terms of recognized borders,” he explained.
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https://www.rt.com/russia/602307-medvedev-ukraine-territory-taboo/

hmm... Why Russia still want to hold back?

 

[Zangief]

like SC2 base exchange.

 

[Zangief]

this won't change the final outcome of the war, but nice try.

 

[Mr.Chibaboom]

Tell us again when they finally reach moscow

 

[Nainai]

The war is ending there. They will nego and do land exchange.

 

[SecretAgent]

Alright?

Where are the comrade boys?!

 

[iPod Jack]

Very possible

putin can detonate the bomb on the recently ukraine occupied russian territory, and will claim its a nuclear 'test' on his own territory

nobody can says he 's wrong

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ukraine units in that area better get out now...

 

[pwongkk]

That will push Ukraine to use dirty bomb on Russia if it doesn't have one. Or go all out to bomb certain high value targets that they have refrained from doing so now.

 

[HirotoXeno]

Very possible

putin can detonate the bomb on the recently ukraine occupied russian territory, and will claim its a nuclear 'test' on his own territory

nobody can says he 's wrong

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ukraine units in that area better get out now...

So they thought they winning and overtake the territory?

 

[uptownman]

This Russia, talk until got dragon got tiger but when kenna attacked cannot do anything.

 

[zoossh]

Whenever this kind of thread happens means Russia supporters losing confidence

 

[houruomu]

Not likely. Putin coward one. If not the war should have greatly escalated or ended. The heat of the war and the casualties are not comparable to the Gaza war.

 

[iceiscold]

Very possible

putin can detonate the bomb on the recently ukraine occupied russian territory, and will claim its a nuclear 'test' on his own territory

nobody can says he 's wrong

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ukraine units in that area better get out now...

Big bro China does not endorse using nuclear. China still got a world to conquer and using nuclear will not make it easier.