[CONSOLIDATED][Russia Edition] General discussion on Ukraine/Russia war

[randyap]

This rumor is 2 days old. If it was true, Russians would be making this known to the whole world. So, high chance that it is not true IMO.

Yep, i learnt about this rumor earlier on and didn't share because has little value. But seeing how it can fit into the captured western military strategist conspiracy theory.. have to bring it out in the spirit of curiosity.

 

[eclipsemints]

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/sin...news-information-war-online-singapore-2596036
"Often, useful ways to gauge information is to maintain a healthy scepticism and seek independent corroboration,” said Dr Chong. "

 

[ctstalin]

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/sin...news-information-war-online-singapore-2596036
"Often, useful ways to gauge information is to maintain a healthy scepticism and seek independent corroboration,” said Dr Chong. "

Proceeds to ban RT /s

 

[randyap]

I heard that the evacuation in Maripol was to rescue the western military strategiest or consultants there to advise the Ukraine army. That's why they take such big risk.

Intel Slava Z
2 Ukrainian Mi-8 helicoptors again tried to evacuate the leadership of Azov National Battalion from Mariupol, they were shot down - Russian Defense Ministry.

The suspicions are not baseless now

 

[GoodBetterBest]

Google Russia oil export USA 43%

2-3 days already since the Russian make known the US 43% rise in oil imports from Russia. US did not rebut, can conclude true liao.

Anyway, it's for the EU people to believe or not, that's more important.

 

[randyap]

Text translation

The NYT satellite picture of the "Massacre in Bucha of March 19" was taken on April 1

Thanks to the help of our team of OSINT and GEOINT specialists, we were able to accurately determine the time of the snapshot.

The picture from the NYT allegedly dated March 19 shows sandy alluvium after a downpour that went from March 31st to the first.

The attached comparison from NYT is based on two shots with identical shadow positions. They allegedly compared March 19 and February 28. In fact, they compared February 28 and April 1 - the time and position of the shadows coincide. The original dates of the photographs are in US time.

Information is available on the Maxar website which satellites have filmed the Buchi region in the last period. A total of three satellites were involved.

Having checked the angle of declination of the Sun above the horizon, in the SunCalc program we were able to find out by enumeration the exact time of the picture and the direction of the shadows.

The picture was taken on April 1 at 11:57 GMT (14:57 local daylight saving time).

 

[Entry Level PC]

Text translation

The NYT satellite picture of the "Massacre in Bucha of March 19" was taken on April 1

Thanks to the help of our team of OSINT and GEOINT specialists, we were able to accurately determine the time of the snapshot.

The picture from the NYT allegedly dated March 19 shows sandy alluvium after a downpour that went from March 31st to the first.

The attached comparison from NYT is based on two shots with identical shadow positions. They allegedly compared March 19 and February 28. In fact, they compared February 28 and April 1 - the time and position of the shadows coincide. The original dates of the photographs are in US time.

Information is available on the Maxar website which satellites have filmed the Buchi region in the last period. A total of three satellites were involved.

Having checked the angle of declination of the Sun above the horizon, in the SunCalc program we were able to find out by enumeration the exact time of the picture and the direction of the shadows.

The picture was taken on April 1 at 11:57 GMT (14:57 local daylight saving time).

This will be a major scandal if real!

 

[ArcticCheetah]

This will be a major scandal if real!

Nothing will happen, the west effectively has full media control

 

[Entry Level PC]

Nothing will happen, the west effectively has full media control

RT.com will post it as long as its credible

 

[randyap]

This will be a major scandal if real!

Well i wouldn't be surprised given their credibility.
Not sexpert on this. i couldn't quite figure out the sandy alluvium in the vid and pics they talking about.
Wait for official annoucement by the russian ministry.

Can telegram links be actually linked to here, i couldn't find a way so just post a screenshot. Cause i want you guys to judge for yourself.

 

[ArcticCheetah]

RT.com will post it as long as its credible

Doesn't matter, the point is the world media is controlled by the west.
Only a few news agencies are still neutral.
As of now reuter is one of the few still factual meaning their report contains very little narrative
The current news is real news mixed with narratives then distributed down the media machinery. And from time to time they will even create fake news to distribute their narratives.
The fact it all works is because average human are actually stupid, they can be brainwash to accept view 1 then accept a contridictory view 2 the next day
There is very little information consolidation capability for most pple.
Only people with high cognitive capabilities will start detecting discrepancies from interference and start rejecting fake news.

 

[randyap]

Can bodies decay under the environmental history? More answers needed.
Because people are asking how come bodies didn't decay after laying there for 2 weeks.

 

[ctstalin]

Well i wouldn't be surprised given their credibility.
Not sexpert on this. i couldn't quite figure out the sandy alluvium in the vid and pics they talking about.
Wait for official annoucement by the russian ministry.

Can telegram links be actually linked to here, i couldn't find a way so just post a screenshot. Cause i want you guys to judge for yourself.

I'm just posting the source of the information ah, I am in no way an expert to determine the authenticity of the claims

Translated text:
We have to admit: we hurried and messed up with the calculations.

And we are not ashamed to say so. The NYT picture was not taken on April 1st as we stated. But not March 19.

While the working version is March 31.

We will present a complete, detailed calculation with time, azimuths of the passage of satellites and shooting time until 12.00 Moscow time on April 6.

We know how to admit our mistakes and jambs, we do not want to mislead subscribers. And the one who does nothing is not mistaken.
#Russia Ukraine
@rybar

*Support us: 4377 7278 0407 7977

 

[Stealth_PL]

Can bodies decay under the environmental history? More answers needed.
Because people are asking how come bodies didn't decay after laying there for 2 weeks.

this is exactly what I can’t understand as well.. if those are killed 2 weeks ago.. there should be signs of decomposition.. even if we overlook the decomposition.. some of those bodies even have pinkish palm meaning they are killed very recently..

 

[BioProEng]

Nothing will happen, the west effectively has full media control

They will just choose to not report this.... Then some ppl will claim, as long not on cnn, BBC etc msm news, they are fake news... But let's wait see if western media going to debunk this or keep quiet....

 

[Spicymc]

Media is a double edge sword
As someone with worst agenda in the world history say it and execute it successfully in the past .

If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. If you repeat a lie long enough, it becomes truth

Tats the scary part with this no moral politicians.
Suffer is still common folks

Doesn't matter, the point is the world media is controlled by the west.
Only a few news agencies are still neutral.
As of now reuter is one of the few still factual meaning their report contains very little narrative
The current news is real news mixed with narratives then distributed down the media machinery. And from time to time they will even create fake news to distribute their narratives.
The fact it all works is because average human are actually stupid, they can be brainwash to accept view 1 then accept a contridictory view 2 the next day
There is very little information consolidation capability for most pple.
Only people with high cognitive capabilities will start detecting discrepancies from interference and start rejecting fake news.

 

[ArcticCheetah]

They will just choose to not report this.... Then some ppl will claim, as long not on cnn, BBC etc msm news, they are fake news... But let's wait see if western media going to debunk this or keep quiet....

They are just going to ignore it like the Ukraine Bio labs issue.
I frankly think those people in countries who approved these bio labs in their own country which are foreign funded ought to be shot for treason.
Collecting country data and giving it to foreign powers to develop bio weapons is treason

 

[randyap]

I'm just posting the source of the information ah, I am in no way an expert to determine the authenticity of the claims

Translated text:
We have to admit: we hurried and messed up with the calculations.

And we are not ashamed to say so. The NYT picture was not taken on April 1st as we stated. But not March 19.

While the working version is March 31.

We will present a complete, detailed calculation with time, azimuths of the passage of satellites and shooting time until 12.00 Moscow time on April 6.

We know how to admit our mistakes and jambs, we do not want to mislead subscribers. And the one who does nothing is not mistaken.
#Russia Ukraine
@rybar

*Support us: 4377 7278 0407 7977

Thanks for the updates.

 

[xiaobao54]

Lol objectivity is required in the fantasy propagandistic world of ukrainian/western media, sharing a satki thread

 

[Zorroh]

Doesn't matter, the point is the world media is controlled by the west.
Only a few news agencies are still neutral.
As of now reuter is one of the few still factual meaning their report contains very little narrative
The current news is real news mixed with narratives then distributed down the media machinery. And from time to time they will even create fake news to distribute their narratives.
The fact it all works is because average human are actually stupid, they can be brainwash to accept view 1 then accept a contridictory view 2 the next day
There is very little information consolidation capability for most pple.
Only people with high cognitive capabilities will start detecting discrepancies from interference and start rejecting fake news.

reuters is totally western media.