[CONSOLIDATED][Ukraine Edition] Russian Invasion of Ukraine Has Begun!

[Joseph12]

Trump isn't going to end the war or can't.

No US troops will die there

Whole Europe knows any cessation of violence is temporary only and unless Putin dies, they're aiming for more Europe land

This whole thing is for Trump to get some money or goodies for the aid etc they are giving to Ukraine

 

[itedino]

Trump isn't going to end the war or can't.

No US troops will die there

Whole Europe knows any cessation of violence is temporary only and unless Putin dies, they're aiming for more Europe land

This whole thing is for Trump to get some money or goodies for the aid etc they are giving to Ukraine

Trump 格局 big. His team know what they are doing.

USA is totally neutral

Now just making zelensky accepting the fact. Zelensky u are only 被动 and u dun lead at all

When 老天 want zelensky to lost the war, Mai go against the flow or fate and die die want to fight till the end. And going against the flow with the fact u wun win

 

[cal127]

By following the Neville Chamberlain school of (failed) diplomacy. Trump thinks what he is doing is ending a war when in reality he is exponentially increasing the possibility of a far larger conflict. Appeasement didn’t work for France or Chamberlain. It won’t work for Trump. If Trump sides with Putin here (for whatever reason), that will tell Xi that Trump will do nothing when China moves against Taiwan.

Even Sleepy Joe would know this.

 

[Joseph12]

Trump 格局 big. His team know what they are doing.

USA is totally neutral

Now just making zelensky accepting the fact. Zelensky u are only 被动 and u dun lead at all

Like I said, he can 'close' case now but Putin is aiming for more of Europe
So problem is pushed down the road

 

[Noworktodo]

Normally in such meetings.. the next line would be. "Let's take this offline" or "let's agree to disagree"

 

[Sirlighty]

By following the Neville Chamberlain school of (failed) diplomacy. Trump thinks what he is doing is ending a war when in reality he is exponentially increasing the possibility of a far larger conflict. Appeasement didn’t work for France or Chamberlain. It won’t work for Trump. If Trump sides with Russia here (for whatever reason), that will tell Xi that Trump will do nothing when China moves against Taiwan.

Even Sleepy Joe would know this.

What would you suggest ?

 

[Joseph12]

By following the Neville Chamberlain school of (failed) diplomacy. Trump thinks what he is doing is ending a war when in reality he is exponentially increasing the possibility of a far larger conflict. Appeasement didn’t work for France or Chamberlain. It won’t work for Trump. If Trump sides with Russia here (for whatever reason), that will tell Xi that Trump will do nothing when China moves against Taiwan.

Even Sleepy Joe would know this.

Ultimately Trump gives zero shite about Taiwan

And China is a pantomime villian for him
Doubt he hates China so much he will want to blow billions to bog down China in war with Taiwan

 

[dontwastetime]

Its very complicated.

If u fight, people die

If u dun fight, russia might become Germany in WW2

What to do ? Only trump thinks its so simple

 

[cosmothecat]

European countries are adding fuel to the fire

So long as the financial and military support continues, the war will not end

 

[cal127]

What would you suggest ?

Definitely not capitulation.

 

[Lemonpeach]

Give Zelenskiy credit
I remember people here frequently criticize him
Well he could have ran but he didn't

He is like the former Afghan President. And the Taiwanese President like him. They don't run for now as the cost of abandonment is greater at a personal level.

 

[Sirlighty]

Definitely not capitulation.

I guess it’s not a solution too

 

[BuffBuffForevaAttached]

Now u all know why the war has ongoing for so many years, anyway I think most knew anyway.

idk, can tell me?

 

[Nevereatrice]

Z wants to pull down whole world to fight his war
Trump wants to end this asap so he can no need to pay for Ukraine's war efforts.

 

[project_00]

Trump wants the rare earth minerals so desperately

 

[linbeier]

zelensky ish unbelievably entitled n ungrateful, pity dat ukrainians hab to pay wif dheir lives

 

[itedino]

I tell u if the war drag another year.

Half of Ukraine territory gone

 

[cal127]

Z wants to pull down whole world to fight his war
Trump wants to end this asap so he can no need to pay for Ukraine's war efforts.

Do you believe in gentleman's honor? Ukraine voluntarily relinquished its stock of nuclear armaments for security guarantees from the United States and the West. That's conveniently forgotten by Mr. Trump and wasn't brought up.

 

[Humster]

European countries are adding fuel to the fire

So long as the financial and military support continues, the war will not end

EU also one kind one. Germany and France each have their own ideas.
UK still trying to talk like they are in the 1900s.
Poland hates Russia, and wanna be the next powerhouse of Europe.
Greece 100% hates Turkyie while Turkyie is trying its hardest overshadow what the big 3 of EU are doing.
If they really 100% want hardcore support Ukraine, they need to jack up their defence spending, which would cut into their social sercuity.
When that happens, guess which direction the wind blows when their citizens found themselves affected more and more.

 

[BunnyPancake]

Siao liao, Zelensky left the White House... no deal, I guess...

EVeryone seems pissed.

I won't be surprised if Russia MOD gave orders to strike Ukraine now...

Sigh... I was hoping there's some good progress.