Cooling Advice

[firezero10]

Hi,

I am currently using a Cryorig H7 on my 5800X3D inside a Nzxt H500 case (non-flow variant). Idle temps around 50c but gaming temp can hit 86-90c (I suppose I am hitting thermal limit). Not sure if temperature is a major concern.

Thinking of getting a Lian Li 216 with Arctic Liquid Freezer 240mm (360 seems sold out everywhere). That said, I don’t know how much improvement it will bring and whether is it worth spending about $300 for it.

 

[Psycovirus]

No, not worth. Cryorig H7 is adequate cooler for the CPU.

What motherboard are you using with your 5800x3D?
Does your motherboard have curve optimizer?

Just set curve optimizer to negative 30 offset for the CPU. It will lower temperature by a fair bit.

Or, you can use PBO2 Tuner when PC starts up using the follow guide on Github

How to "undervolt" AMD RYZEN 5800X3D Guide with PBO2 tuner.

 

[tigerwoods]

Hi,

I am currently using a Cryorig H7 on my 5800X3D inside a Nzxt H500 case (non-flow variant). Idle temps around 50c but gaming temp can hit 86-90c (I suppose I am hitting thermal limit). Not sure if temperature is a major concern.

Thinking of getting a Lian Li 216 with Arctic Liquid Freezer 240mm (360 seems sold out everywhere). That said, I don’t know how much improvement it will bring and whether is it worth spending about $300 for it.

My 5800X is 38c idle with 240mm AIO non a/c room, gaming temp is 60-75 depends on games. AIO sure will greatly improve temp over Cryorig H7.

5800X/3D is a hot chip

 

[KleoZy]

hmm.. I would go for 280 LF2 and to fit into your 216. I have been using a Liquid Freezer II 280 since year 2019 till now and have use it for different gen processors. Intel i5 9600K -> AMD 5950X -> AMD 7900 , 7900X and 7950X -> 13700K and 13900K. so ya use till now..

But do consider AIO will only last about 5 to 6 years. if so these will be my suggestion and opinion

Liquid AIO

• EK Classic 360
• Arctic Liquid Freezer II 280 or 360

the rest like NZXT, Corsair bla bla bla. yes they will do the job but paying so much for the fancy LCD, I dont think is worth it. Imagine you pay 300 to 400+ and it's dead in 5 years time, out of warranty and you got to replace it.

Air Coolers
Hassle Free, dont need to think if there are maulfunction on pump or leakage.

• ThermalRight Perless Assassin 120SE
• Deepcool AK620

Either way you choose. The Lancool 216 can cater but the airflow you will need to torque, especially for Aircooler, where the top fans to exhaust are kind of redundant. you will need the front airflow to channel cool air to your Aircooler and out to the rear.

 

[KleoZy]

No, not worth. Cryorig H7 is adequate cooler for the CPU.

What motherboard are you using with your 5800x3D?
Does your motherboard have curve optimizer?

Just set curve optimizer to negative 30 offset for the CPU. It will lower temperature by a fair bit.

Or, you can use PBO2 Tuner when PC starts up using the follow guide on Github

How to "undervolt" AMD RYZEN 5800X3D Guide with PBO2 tuner.

oops I thought this processor can't do PBO2.. ya give this a try first before getting anything.. this will be your first choice.

 

[firezero10]

No, not worth. Cryorig H7 is adequate cooler for the CPU.

What motherboard are you using with your 5800x3D?
Does your motherboard have curve optimizer?

Just set curve optimizer to negative 30 offset for the CPU. It will lower temperature by a fair bit.

Or, you can use PBO2 Tuner when PC starts up using the follow guide on Github

How to "undervolt" AMD RYZEN 5800X3D Guide with PBO2 tuner.

Yup, I have already used the PBO2 Tuner at PC start up (Running all cores at -30, PPT 95, TDC 60 , EDC 90 - not sure what the numbers are for but these were recommended haha). It did improve the CPU temp slightly, especially for gaming (previously it shoots up to 85c and above pretty quickly but now the temperature gradually increases instead).

 

[Psycovirus]

oops I thought this processor can't do PBO2.. ya give this a try first before getting anything.. this will be your first choice.

When it was lunched, PBO2 was not supported.
Around June 2022, MSI and other motherboard manufactures added PBO2 curve optimizer to the BIOS for 5800x3D.

 

[jkohlc2]

moi recommend Thermalright FC140

 

[KleoZy]

When it was lunched, PBO2 was not supported.
4 months ago, Asus and other motherboard manufactures added PBO2 curve optimizer to the BIOS for 5800x3D.

Roger that. cos I dont play with X3D chip, not a gamer lol.. but thanks for the info.

Yup, I have already used the PBO2 Tuner at PC start up (Running all cores at -30, PPT 95, TDC 60 , EDC 90 - not sure what the numbers are for but these were recommended haha). It did improve the CPU temp slightly, especially for gaming (previously it shoots up to 85c and above pretty quickly but now the temperature gradually increases instead).

hmm I donno how 5800X3D reacts but as what I experience with other AMD 5000 series or 7000 series, it's ok to have those temp. the AMD platform where I have tested with PBO2 and CO on, it's expected to be around 85 to 87. as for Liquid AIOs is around 78 to 82.

 

[Psycovirus]

Yup, I have already used the PBO2 Tuner at PC start up (Running all cores at -30, PPT 95, TDC 60 , EDC 90 - not sure what the numbers are for but these were recommended haha). It did improve the CPU temp slightly, especially for gaming (previously it shoots up to 85c and above pretty quickly but now the temperature gradually increases instead).

Oh, that is great. If it still thermal throttling with -30, then time to change the case. Lian-Li 216 is a fantastic case to work with.
I recently help a friend assemble in the Lian-Li 216 with an aircooler similar to Cryorig H7 (Thermalright assasin 120) and the 5800x3D chip didn't exceed 86C with Cinebench R23 runs. I have a feeling your Cryorig H7 isn't performing because the NZXT H500 case doesn't have good airflow.

I also love the feature to add extra 120 exhaust fan at the back of the case. That really lowers the temps of the GPU by 3-4 C.

 

[tigerwoods]

Hi,

I am currently using a Cryorig H7 on my 5800X3D inside a Nzxt H500 case (non-flow variant). Idle temps around 50c but gaming temp can hit 86-90c (I suppose I am hitting thermal limit). Not sure if temperature is a major concern.

Thinking of getting a Lian Li 216 with Arctic Liquid Freezer 240mm (360 seems sold out everywhere). That said, I don’t know how much improvement it will bring and whether is it worth spending about $300 for it.

Maybe try reapply thermal paste first

 

[Psycovirus]

Yup, I have already used the PBO2 Tuner at PC start up (Running all cores at -30, PPT 95, TDC 60 , EDC 90 - not sure what the numbers are for but these were recommended haha). It did improve the CPU temp slightly, especially for gaming (previously it shoots up to 85c and above pretty quickly but now the temperature gradually increases instead).

Maybe check your motherboard manufacturer for BIOS update? Most of them already support Curve Optimizer in the BIOS so you don't have to use PBO2 Tuner (less reliable since its a software).

 

[Phen8210]

@firezero10

The problem is very obvious.

100% I will change the case first. A case with good airflow can easily -10c from a bad one.

The NZXT H500 is like a sauna room.

Remember that if the airflow provided by the case is insufficient, even upgrading to a cooler with a bigger heatsink will merely stall the temperatures for a little longer.

No point getting a good cooler if all it receives is hot air.

 

[gpgtmeowmeow]

On top of changing to a case with good airflow, can also consider getting a cooler with higher TDP to reduce the temps.

If you do not like AIOs, you can consider the Noctua coolers or the Peerless Assassin.

 

[KYZT2021]

The mentioned models about are in the video too

 

[watzup_ken]

The 5800X3D should not run as hot as a vanilla 5800X because of the lower clockspeed and less aggressive power limit. Having said that, an AIO cooler is going to perform quite a fair bit better than the Cryorig H7 in cooling performance. I would recommend Arctic Liquid Freezer II because of the AMD AM4 offset mounting bracket that centralizes the cold plate to the side of the chip where the CCDs are. This helps to bring temps down. And I would think if you case takes in 280mm radiators, then go with the 280mm version.

 

[jkohlc2]

Oh, that is great. If it still thermal throttling with -30, then time to change the case. Lian-Li 216 is a fantastic case to work with.
I recently help a friend assemble in the Lian-Li 216 with an aircooler similar to Cryorig H7 (Thermalright assasin 120) and the 5800x3D chip didn't exceed 86C with Cinebench R23 runs. I have a feeling your Cryorig H7 isn't performing because the NZXT H500 case doesn't have good airflow.

I also love the feature to add extra 120 exhaust fan at the back of the case. That really lowers the temps of the GPU by 3-4 C.

what case is this?

 

[TanKianW]

Hi,

I am currently using a Cryorig H7 on my 5800X3D inside a Nzxt H500 case (non-flow variant). Idle temps around 50c but gaming temp can hit 86-90c (I suppose I am hitting thermal limit). Not sure if temperature is a major concern.

Thinking of getting a Lian Li 216 with Arctic Liquid Freezer 240mm (360 seems sold out everywhere). That said, I don’t know how much improvement it will bring and whether is it worth spending about $300 for it.

If don't want to change the HSF and casing, I will​

• improve the airflow around the casing, esp if pc under table.​
• install stronger fans in the casing and the main HSF. Do check the orientation too. I prefer more air in than out​
• remount and repaste the main HSF. If the HSF is screw on, do not screw one side fully in one shot. Gradually screw both sides in.​

 

[firezero10]

Thanks for all the inputs.

I think I will get the Lian Li 216 case with Arctic Liquid Freezer II 240 (heard there might be some clearance issue with the 280 and the 360 are all out of stock).

Based on the prices I see on Lazada, the case and cooler is about $119 and $132 respectively. Is it a good price or can I get better price somewhere else?

 

[Phen8210]

Thanks for all the inputs.

I think I will get the Lian Li 216 case with Arctic Liquid Freezer II 240 (heard there might be some clearance issue with the 280 and the 360 are all out of stock).

Based on the prices I see on Lazada, the case and cooler is about $119 and $132 respectively. Is it a good price or can I get better price somewhere else?

240 AIO is worse than air cooling in terms of noise normalized temps. It's not worth paying for.

I would go with Kleozy's suggestion for the air coolers instead.

Those are very solid air coolers.