CPF Easy Info Thread. :)

dork32

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Good read

https://www.straitstimes.com/busine...AkpfaFmqSRrE7h9I7I8fxadLco#Echobox=1588052867

Last para extracted below:

"Finally people should view retirement as not the end but the beginning of another life adventure. And money, while important in this journey, is not everything. After all, the happiest people don't have the best of everything, they just make the best of everything they have. "

there are a few points that i want to raise. this is an ocbc advertisement. it is skewed towards buying a retirement plan from them.

1. you do not need a 1.3 mil. it is much less. at ers (240k), you will be getting 2k when you retire in 10 years time. i agree that i did not take into account inflation.

2. why ah pek or ah mah need 3k a month? a fresh grad with starting pay of 3.8k will has a take home of 3k per month. diploma holder usually less. if these people can survive, why old folks need so much money. yeah, if you want to travel around the world every year, drive sports car, be old cow eat fresh grass, of course 3k may not be enough. old folks should learn to moderate their expenses especially if they have no more income.

3. 1.3 mil may seem like a lot of money now. with inflation, this sum may not look so big in the future. eg when i was in the army, mom bought a 100k insurance for me. wah 100k ah! so much money man! i only have 3k in my bank account then. today when i look at that 100k, i will say ok loh, not bad loh. most of us, income will increase over time. by that time 1.3 mil may not be so big compared to our income.

4. a professional working for 20 years will have 500k in the oa+sa. many sg people use cpf to pay for their homes. many will not have much in the oa.

there are points which i like. eg you better start planning now
 

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Hi Senior Bro and Sis,
I'm having dilemma between 2 options below:
1) voluntary housing refund to OA
2) voluntary contribution to all CPF accounts
My MA is full and SA left few k to reach FRS. I have also already RSTU top up 7k to SA as well.
Would like to seek some opinions from experienced senior here which is the better option.
Many thanks.
 
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Wah! Finally my SA is large enough to cover the 3% annual increment for Minimum Sum! God Bless! :D

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there are a few points that i want to raise. this is an ocbc advertisement. it is skewed towards buying a retirement plan from them.

1. you do not need a 1.3 mil. it is much less. at ers (240k), you will be getting 2k when you retire in 10 years time. i agree that i did not take into account inflation.

2. why ah pek or ah mah need 3k a month? a fresh grad with starting pay of 3.8k will has a take home of 3k per month. diploma holder usually less. if these people can survive, why old folks need so much money. yeah, if you want to travel around the world every year, drive sports car, be old cow eat fresh grass, of course 3k may not be enough. old folks should learn to moderate their expenses especially if they have no more income.

3. 1.3 mil may seem like a lot of money now. with inflation, this sum may not look so big in the future. eg when i was in the army, mom bought a 100k insurance for me. wah 100k ah! so much money man! i only have 3k in my bank account then. today when i look at that 100k, i will say ok loh, not bad loh. most of us, income will increase over time. by that time 1.3 mil may not be so big compared to our income.

4. a professional working for 20 years will have 500k in the oa+sa. many sg people use cpf to pay for their homes. many will not have much in the oa.

there are points which i like. eg you better start planning now

U have to read articles with an open mind. U have misinterpreted the article as I read it.

The title : “Need $1.3m to retire? Depends how you live”

There is a ?, implying answer is NO based on the second sentence after it!

Then u must read the most important message in the article, extracted below:

“Guess what? As people grow older, many things that will make them happy don't cost a lot. “

Then go read all the examples explained in the article.

Then I purposely quoted the last para in my previous post, a summary of the above:

“Finally people should view retirement as not the end but the beginning of another life adventure. And money, while important in this journey, is not everything. After all, the happiest people don't have the best of everything, they just make the best of everything they have. “

Use the above to help u review 3 the CPF Life Plans. Do I need an escalating plan? No, a Basic CPF Life Plan is good enough to make me happy as many things don't cost a lot! I might not have the best (increasing payout by 2% in later years), I know how to make the best of everything I have, ie more payout in my earlier years, might decrease in later years but I know how to keep it constant, etc and do not rely entirely on CPF Life payouts alone for my retirement.

There is a similar message in the other Good article I shared. Do u need me to help u decipher the key message?
 
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How much SA need to cover that?
Next year increase $5k, so I think around $120k by start of this year?

So for me who is a little slower, I need more by Nov this year to hit the $5k increment... :(

With $130k by this Nov, I think can cross the $5k increment... :(

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Next year increase $5k, so I think around $120k by start of this year?

So for me who is a little slower, I need more by Nov this year to hit the $5k increment... :(

With $130k by this Nov, I think can cross the $5k increment... :(

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If all your monies in SA are cash topups, it will be reserved for CPF Life if it is below FRS at 55.
 

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If all your monies in SA are cash topups, it will be reserved for CPF Life if it is below FRS at 55.

He’s going to hit FRS at age 30 max and the compounding will work it’s magic till he retires. His basic retirement is secured.
 
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How much is this emergency fund worth? No other cash etc? I suppose you no house or wife/kids?
$3.6k? I spend less than $600 a month... :(

Got another $6k in my Edusave which will be transferred to CPF at 30 years old... :(

No house, wife and kids... :(

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I top up the 7k cpf. But it not reflected in iras. Anyone know why?
I think must ownself key in de... :(

And did you top up by last Dec?

If you top up from Jan to Apr this year, I think not counted under last year's relief... :(

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I'm having dilemma between 2 options below:
1) voluntary housing refund to OA
2) voluntary contribution to all CPF accounts
My MA is full and SA left few k to reach FRS. I have also already RSTU top up 7k to SA as well.
Would like to seek some opinions from experienced senior here which is the better option.
Better option for what? What goal(s) are you trying to accomplish? Obviously the yield is higher with option #2, but option #2 isn't the highest available yield on your next dollar of savings even when limiting that dollar to your CPF accounts. The next "few k" deposited into your Special Account offers a higher yield than Option #2, and Option #2 is still available thereafter.
 
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